TN JOE CLYDE DANIELS: Missing from Dickson, TN - 4 April 2018 - Age 5 *GUILTY*

Dad beat autistic son Joe Clyde Daniels to death, hid his body in remote area: affidavit

Violent details have been released in the murder of 5-year-old Joe Clyde Daniels.

According to an affidavit, Joe's father, Joseph Ray Daniels, confessed to police that he beat his non-verbal, autistic son to death at their Dickson home on April 4.

Daniels told police that he "struck his son...repeatedly in the body, upper torso, head, and face with closed-fist until his son was deceased," the affidavit says.

Young Joe Clyde died at his residence along Garners Creek Road. Daniels told authorities he put the kindergartner's body in the truck of his car and "disposed" of his son's body in a remote, rural area. As of Monday morning, Joe Clyde's body still hasn't been found after authorities searched through the weekend.

Daniels called 911 to report his son missing.

Dad beat autistic son Joe Clyde Daniels to death, hid his body in remote area: affidavit

LIVE UPDATE:Violent details have been released in the murder of 5-year-old Joe Clyde Daniels.According to an affidavit, Joe's father, Joseph Ray Daniels, confessed to police that he beat his non-verbal, autistic son to death at their Dickson home on April

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Joseph Daniels pens letter claiming Joe Clyde was killed by his mother

The father of Joe Clyde Daniels, Joseph Daniels, confessed to killing the 5-year-old autistic boy, but he's now pointing the finger at someone else - his wife, Krystal Daniels.

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Joseph Daniels pens letter claiming Joe Clyde was killed by his mother

The father of Joe Clyde Daniels, Joseph Daniels, confessed to killing the 5-year-old autistic boy, but he's now pointing the finger at someone else - his wife, Krystal Daniels.

It's one of a couple of new developments in the case. Joseph Daniels is currently charged with homicide in the death of his son -- mostly based on a confession that Joseph has since recanted.

Media - JOE CLYDE DANIELS: Missing from Dickson, TN since 4 April 2018 - Age 5

 

[kdg411]

Today's testimony by Agent Zachary Burkhart is 'intense' & a good watch. IMO it solidifies reasonable doubt even before defense calls their first witness.

 

[kdg411]

 

[GrandmaBear]

Today's testimony by Agent Zachary Burkhart is 'intense' & a good watch. IMO it solidifies reasonable doubt even before defense calls their first witness.

Is he the one that was still on the stand when they just went to lunch? I have caught some of it. He is good and does not let the defense attorney lead him or twist things. Every chance he gets he states that Joe confessed...

 

[GrandmaBear]

Oh looking at your post again you are thinking he helps the defense. I tend to disagree. This case does not have a ton of physical evidence but I think there are enough dots to lead to one likely conclusion. And the defendant confessed more than once and to more than one. To me that pretty much negates any false/under duress confession. Jmo though.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Oh looking at your post again you are thinking he helps the defense. I tend to disagree. This case does not have a ton of physical evidence but I think there are enough dots to lead to one likely conclusion. And the defendant confessed more than once and to more than one. To me that pretty much negates any false/under duress confession. Jmo though.

In the presence of other evidence, a confession can be compelling. Problem is, I've seen no other evidence at this point...

 

[kdg411]

In the presence of other evidence, a confession can be compelling. Problem is, I've seen no other evidence at this point...

Correct. I agree. All of the expert witnesses have yet to corroborate the confession. IMO there is substantial reasonable doubt. Also, the defendant's cell phone extraction via cellebrite showed he was suicidal, not homicidal.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I agree that there is not much direct or physical evidence. The lies are one thing that stand out to me though. He was out and about on the night this happened and he claimed to be sleeping. He admits to beating him and is peeing on the floor and his anger, even aside from confessing to murder. Not saying there is a lot but with the confession there is enough other things that I think it will be a real discussion for the jury and can lead to just one reasonable conclusion. No easy instant conviction, but a possibility of it going either way. I rarely think there will be a hung jury but this could be one that I could see it being possible. Also, I admit to not knowing the case inside and out and I sure have not watched the entire trial by a long shot. I will also say that I would not place a wager on what the verdict will be in this case, because it is not overflowing with evidence, etc.; in many other cases I would not hesitate to say I would wager on the jury dercision.

I would say an adult in that home killed him though. I think the other possibilities are a huge stretch and I don't consider them reasonable doubt.

All jmo of course.

 

[kdg411]

The State has just rested.

Quick note before the Defense presents:
1. in the defendants confession he stated that after Joe Clyde peed on the floor he started laughing and took off running outside, that is false as testimony today concluded that Joe Clyde did not ever 'escape' the home after the padlock was installed on the backdoor
2. LE confirmed that the cadaver dogs brought in to search the trunk of the defendants car did not indicate that humain remains were ever in that vehicle; therefore Alex's testimony cannot be corroborated

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

I'm surprised the defense hasn't asked for the whole dang thing to be thrown out at this point for failure to prove their case. I've seen it tried in other trials with FAR more evidence. But if I was on that jury, nothing has convinced me whatsoever to vote Guilty of Murder. The defense needs to convince me of nothing at this point. I guess they can further hammer the point home that nothing was proven and go for an acquittal instead of a hung jury I suppose.

Don't get me wrong, I want whatever happened to Joe to be brought to light and anyone responsible to be held accountable. But...the State has NOT done that here. They have no evidence of anything. And even some "evidence"/testimony has been proven false.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I'm surprised the defense hasn't asked for the whole dang thing to be thrown out at this point for failure to prove their case. I've seen it tried in other trials with FAR more evidence. But if I was on that jury, nothing has convinced me whatsoever to vote Guilty of Murder. The defense needs to convince me of nothing at this point. I guess they can further hammer the point home that nothing was proven and go for an acquittal instead of a hung jury I suppose.

Don't get me wrong, I want whatever happened to Joe to be brought to light and anyone responsible to be held accountable. But...the State has NOT done that here. They have no evidence of anything. And even some "evidence"/testimony has been proven false.

Awhile ago, maybe an hour or so, there were a few motions but I did not catch it all. One I think (won't swear to) was for summary judgment. Either the judge denied or I have it wrong as the trial is going forward it appears.

I agree this is far from the strongest case I have ever seen. I think it could swing either way or result in no agreement of all jurors/hung.

 

[Guess Who]

In the presence of other evidence, a confession can be compelling. Problem is, I've seen no other evidence at this point...

That's exactly where I am at. While I do believe he is guilty of "disappearing" the child, I have seen no proof of anything to be able to vote guilty....guilty of what, exactly?

 

[Guess Who]

I'm surprised the defense hasn't asked for the whole dang thing to be thrown out at this point for failure to prove their case. I've seen it tried in other trials with FAR more evidence. But if I was on that jury, nothing has convinced me whatsoever to vote Guilty of Murder. The defense needs to convince me of nothing at this point. I guess they can further hammer the point home that nothing was proven and go for an acquittal instead of a hung jury I suppose.

Don't get me wrong, I want whatever happened to Joe to be brought to light and anyone responsible to be held accountable. But...the State has NOT done that here. They have no evidence of anything. And even some "evidence"/testimony has been proven false.

This is one of those cases where I believe the state jumped the gun at bringing charges without enough evidence and is why I am just fine being patient for many arrests. If he is voted not guilty, they can now no longer charge him with murder if evidence is later found that says he did murder him.

 

[kdg411]

The defense is not calling any witnesses & the motion for acquittal was submitted & denied. The jury will be on recess to allow 2 hours for attorneys to prepare closing arguments. Also, the defendant waived his right to testify.

We are in recess.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Put off until tomorrow now.

 

[kdg411]

Both sides agreed that closing arguments need further time to prepare for & the Judge agreed to dismiss the jury until 0800 tomorrow.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I know most do not agree and again I am not saying it is a slam dunk but I put a fair bit of weight on the confession. And then the fact he confessed again. I am not a believer in that there are too many false confessions or that it is that common, and when they then later repeat the confession, I think it much less likely it was false, almost nil. Add in the few other things like the lies, taking forever on camera at the store to be seen or so it appears, the lock and moving the coffee table and a bit more... It's not a lot but it is a case with a confession which is big imo. I have no confidence though which way the jury will go and even the bit of chat I watched was very down the middle on whether there is enough evidence to convict although most seemed to feel he was guilty.

 

[kdg411]

I know most do not agree and again I am not saying it is a slam dunk but I put a fair bit of weight on the confession. And then the fact he confessed again. I am not a believer in that there are too many false confessions or that it is that common, and when they then later repeat the confession, I think it much less likely it was false, almost nil. Add in the few other things like the lies, taking forever on camera at the store to be seen or so it appears, the lock and moving the coffee table and a bit more... It's not a lot but it is a case with a confession which is big imo. I have no confidence though which way the jury will go and even the bit of chat I watched was very down the middle on whether there is enough evidence to convict although most seemed to feel he was guilty.

We all are entitled to our own opinion and no one will be berated (as far as the current staff are concerned).

Law enforcement has to corroborate the facts of the confession. What has been presented thus far shows that Alex witnessed something. That's the only piece of evidence that is validated. The 'who' is where there is doubt, imo.

As far as you tube goes, I don't watch on a desktop and chat isn't available on mobile devices, thankfully. I'd rather make a conclusion based on the evidence presented and don't want to be deterred by another's interpretation.

 

[Paradise]

I watched the entire trial and the one thing I will say is… I would have loved to have shot that defense attorney with an elephant tranquilizer gun.

 

[GrandmaBear]

We all are entitled to our own opinion and no one will be berated (as far as the current staff are concerned).

Law enforcement has to corroborate the facts of the confession. What has been presented thus far shows that Alex witnessed something. That's the only piece of evidence that is validated. The 'who' is where there is doubt, imo.

As far as you tube goes, I don't watch on a desktop and chat isn't available on mobile devices, thankfully. I'd rather make a conclusion based on the evidence presented and don't want to be deterred by another's interpretation.

I am never deferred by anyone else's interpretation if I read or watch chat lol. I am not set on it, I am listening to testimony but during lulls chat continues so I watch when there is a break, etc. Not that I have watched all of this because I sure have not. Clearly no one influences my opinion even if it differs as you can see here in this thread so I have to chuckle at that

Yes, I do get the corroborating the confession and that there is not much. And I am not on the jury so jmo. I probably would struggle with this one if on the jury to be honest, even though I feel I wouldn't. I know myself well enough to know if someone's freedom was in my hands whether to convict or not, I would not and could not take it lightly. So I really just opining my take on it without the weight on me of being a juror.

So aside from whether they have enough evidence or corroboration for the courtroom/jury, and just in your opinion, what do you think happened and/or who did it?

I don't believe he is alive or ran off. I don't believe a neighbor took him. I don't believe on the night this happened some abductor just lucked out and happened to be driving by. I more often than not find such theories far fetched. As profilers and detectives often say, one cannot leave the house yet. There is absolutely nothing leading to the fact that anyone outside that house did anything.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I watched the entire trial and the one thing I will say is… I would have loved to have shot that defense attorney with an elephant tranquilizer gun.

Love that and I wholeheartedly agree although I did not watch the entire thing. What I did see of it was enough as far as the defense attorney. Lol.