The Holly Bobo Murder

I'm not sure this is where to put this but I couldn't find a thread re case of the 2011 murder of Holly Bobo.
There were several arrests and three convictions on the case and I'm currently watching the one prosecution that went to trial.
Anyway, I'm interested to know whether anyone is aware of the case or is familiar it and would share their thoughts.

Murder of Holly Bobo - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Regina]

There was no knock at the door and whether the house was unlocked is irrelevant as to what the facts show was how the crime unfolded.
Btw, it could have been Holly's screams that caused her brother to start to wake up and that when fully awake, he only heard the dog barking.

 

[Kimster]

There was no knock at the door and whether the house was unlocked is irrelevant as to what the facts show was how the crime unfolded.
Btw, it could have been Holly's screams that caused her brother to start to wake up and that when fully awake, he only heard the dog barking.

While I did follow this case closely until the end of the trial, I don't tend to keep up with cases after sentencing. My memory is already hazy on this case, so forgive me if I am not recalling correctly. What I recall is that her brother saw her leaving with someone in camo and he thought it was a friend or bf, can't remember which. I don't recall him hearing a scream. I thought that came from a neighbor only?

 

[GrandmaBear]

I suppose he thought that if those items were left behind, what had actually happened would be sooner apparent, in other words, it was to buy time.

I don't know that I agree with that... I'd be more worried if the stuff was home and she was nowhere to be found. On the other hand, if the phone, purse, lunchbox whatever was missing, I'd think she went somewhere.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Re the kneeling in the carport, a neighbor had been outside and had heard Holly screaming (he'd heard her scream "no" repeatedly along with something else I don't recall) and he drove over to the end of the Bobo's driveway and called his mother (who knew Holly's mother and how to reach her) and so it might be that the perp saw the neighbor and that's the reason for the kneeling.

A possibility but I don't know how likely... Brother's account was both kneeling and facing each other talking wasn't it...?

That's what I mean though--so many questions...

 

[GrandmaBear]

That's what always gets me when they say "no forced every so the victim must have let the perp in" in so many cases, when many people don't lock their doors or only lock them at night. Not necessarily being the case here, but a general observation.

Or no "sign" of forced entry... Saying that is more accurate I think, meaning they don't know in cases how entry was gained.

 

[GrandmaBear]

True. The deputies that I know have said it blows their mind how many people leave their houses and cars unlocked. And even people that leave a firearm in the glove compartment! It’s nuts.

depending on where one lives and circumstances... I always keep my door locked. I always did alone on the acreage too. However, when there with my hub during the days, even if he was out on the property, I did not. We were in and out constantly on nice days and it was rural. Same with other homes though. However, we always locked up at nightt when no one was going to be awake. Never in the daytime unless we were leaving. If one works, of course, but if you are home all day and in and outside too all day, I don't thin most people lock and use a key to unlock their door every time they go in and out.

in this apartment though, in a city, I always lock my door when going down for the mail, to the laundry, etc. even.

 

[GrandmaBear]

While I did follow this case closely until the end of the trial, I don't tend to keep up with cases after sentencing. My memory is already hazy on this case, so forgive me if I am not recalling correctly. What I recall is that her brother saw her leaving with someone in camo and he thought it was a friend or bf, can't remember which. I don't recall him hearing a scream. I thought that came from a neighbor only?

Same, from what I read...

I refreshed from the WIKI link at the top of this thread. I felt there was a lot missing in it. However, some of what I felt missing may well have been speculation or not corroborated, I just felt it was lacking. I don't recall all freshly though.

 

[GrandmaBear]

There was no knock at the door and whether the house was unlocked is irrelevant as to what the facts show was how the crime unfolded.
Btw, it could have been Holly's screams that caused her brother to start to wake up and that when fully awake, he only heard the dog barking.

I'm trying to figure out if she knew him or not, went willingly or at gunpoint and so forth. Why he had her stuff she apparently was allowed to take. All of it. Who is telling the truth, who might not be. Again, the whole ball of wax.

 

[GrandmaBear]

@Regina By the way I've seen hints and shows about news in the Soto case. Long docs released, not sure what all. I haven't watched anything on it. Did see a bit about he did buy some kind of drug--did we know that before or not? Anyhow, thought I'd mention it since we were the two who most seemed to be following and discussing that one.

 

[Kimster]

Holly Bobo's brother Clint Bobo took the stand to recount the day his sister disappeared. He told prosecutors he woke up to the dog barking and thought a utility vehicle of some sort was in the driveway.

Shortly after he woke up, he said he heard a male and female voice outside and raised the blinds to see silhouettes near the home's carport.
Clint said he recognized Holly's voice as the female voice and believed the male voice was Holly's boyfriend Drew Scott.

He also mentioned seeing blood in the carport, which he thought was from a turkey as Drew had been out hunting that morning. He said he did not think it could be Holly's blood.

Holly Bobo's mother, brother testify on day 1 of murder trial

Holly Bobo's mother collapsed on Monday while testifying during the trial for a man accused of murdering Tennessee nursing student Holly Bobo.The disappearance of Bobo, a talented, church-going nursing student everyone seemed to like, transformed the peac

mynbc15.com

Okay, here's her brother's testimony. I forgot he did hear voices.

 

[Regina]

While I did follow this case closely until the end of the trial, I don't tend to keep up with cases after sentencing. My memory is already hazy on this case, so forgive me if I am not recalling correctly. What I recall is that her brother saw her leaving with someone in camo and he thought it was a friend or bf, can't remember which. I don't recall him hearing a scream. I thought that came from a neighbor only?

The brother first thought she was with her boyfriend and that they were arguing but later when he saw them walk toward the woods, the man didn't look like the boyfriend but more like a cousin of theirs.
No, the brother hadn't heard a scream; correct, just the neighbor.

 

[Regina]

A possibility but I don't know how likely... Brother's account was both kneeling and facing each other talking wasn't it...?

That's what I mean though--so many questions...

He said their voices were loud and he thought they were arguing.

Re so many questions, it seems to me that you've forgot a lot and what little you remember is wrong, lol!

 

[Regina]

I'm trying to figure out if she knew him or not, went willingly or at gunpoint and so forth. Why he had her stuff she apparently was allowed to take. All of it. Who is telling the truth, who might not be. Again, the whole ball of wax.

The brother said the man had something in his right hand, which he thought at the time was a deer caller.

 

[Regina]

@Regina By the way I've seen hints and shows about news in the Soto case. Long docs released, not sure what all. I haven't watched anything on it. Did see a bit about he did buy some kind of drug--did we know that before or not? Anyhow, thought I'd mention it since we were the two who most seemed to be following and discussing that one.

Thanks for mentioning it.
I just remember that he was highly stressed that one of his prescription meds had run out and later told his father he found some elsewhere.

 

[GrandmaBear]

He said their voices were loud and he thought they were arguing.

Re so many questions, it seems to me that you've forgot a lot and what little you remember is wrong, lol!

I'm not admitting to that other than to admit it very well could be lol.

I remember key things like going into the woods. Or said to have. Recall it was some time before she was found. Recall the brother. I recall thinking drugs were invoved but couldn't recall how that was known. I thought one of the bunch told on another. Some things I only recall after they are said, like her studying.

I freely admit not fresh on the facts but I also never watched the trial and much was thought or speculated prior to that I think.

So yeah, with most things, I'm just asking, not necessarily set in what I think.

 

[GrandmaBear]

The brother said the man had something in his right hand, which he thought at the time was a deer caller.

?? Was this deer season there? Here it is in November.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Thanks for mentioning it.
I just remember that he was highly stressed that one of his prescription meds had run out and later told his father he found some elsewhere.

I'd have to see it again. Sounded like it was purchased. I thought it might have to do with drugging her. Not sure.

 

[Guess Who]

True. The deputies that I know have said it blows their mind how many people leave their houses and cars unlocked. And even people that leave a firearm in the glove compartment! It’s nuts.

Far more than you would imagine. Especially in less populated areas. I bet I could go where my parents lived and walk right into most any home or open nearly any vehicle. Most of the people leave their cars running when they go into thre6e store. Blows my mind.

 

[Tresir]

I'm not admitting to that other than to admit it very well could be lol.

I remember key things like going into the woods. Or said to have. Recall it was some time before she was found. Recall the brother. I recall thinking drugs were invoved but couldn't recall how that was known. I thought one of the bunch told on another. Some things I only recall after they are said, like her studying.

I freely admit not fresh on the facts but I also never watched the trial and much was thought or speculated prior to that I think.

So yeah, with most things, I'm just asking, not necessarily set in what I think.

It's not surprising as we have nothing from the original thread plus some seem to be now changing stories anyway. A bit like Rebecca Park - they seem like a big bunch of liars.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Far more than you would imagine. Especially in less populated areas. I bet I could go where my parents lived and walk right into most any home or open nearly any vehicle. Most of the people leave their cars running when they go into thre6e store. Blows my mind.

I've lived in both city and country and small town. Things can vary in your feeling of safety, and also things as to whether daytime or night time, how well you know your neighbors and so on. I'm not saying it isn't smart to always lock one's door but just it's a lot different mindset depending on a number of things. Of course, as people have become more mobile, or population increases, more crime occurs, and things change, and we follow crime, it can seem nuts for someone to not have their door locked.

I don't want to sidetrack the thread with the topic as it is not specific to this case but it still isn't unusual with many generations and in many places. Especially during the day time. Imo.