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Discussion on Serial Killers, Spree Killers, Mass Killers, And single event killers.

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To start. I have always found Serial Killers fascinating. What makes them do what they do?. I know I am not the only one. This is the place to talk about it. I'll start. Who do you find the most fascinating and why?.
 
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I just finished watching a 4 part episode documentary. “Psycho: The lost tapes of Ed Gein”. On “MGM+”. Yeah. This is the first time any voice recording of his has been released. He sounded like I expected.. Soft spoken, A meek, Mid tone voice. Very simple. Very suggestible. And very agreeable. These tapes are LE questioning him. His interaction with a judge. They had to really lead him in questioning him. In this case there was no doubt he was guilty. EXPLICIT!!! AND JUST LIKE NOTHING ELSE BEFORE OR SINCE. I heard some s””” I never heard before. And pictures I never saw before. The worse it got. He remembered the name of the first grave he dug up. Directly below the plot of his mother. The townspeople were in disbelief. “He was just a little odd”, “He was a little different”. YOU HAVE NO IDEA. IDK Where people get “Cannibal” from. He’s not going to eat exhumed bodies. The heart on the stove. I call B.S. That’s one tough muscle. He killed in 1954 and 1957. He gave “Venison” to people. But said he never went hunting. I’m not believing that. He wanted their skin. Their hair and face. The pictures that I never saw were a couple. They looked like store bought masks. A full suit made of women’s skin. A lampshade. A belt made of nipples. A shade pull that was lips. Bowls made with the top of the cranium cut off. A box of vulvas. A newly retrieved head. A center of a kitchen chair upholstered. He mostly just answered “That’s right” or a scenario given. “It could have been that way”. Never denying, Never admitting. The pictures. It was absolutely squalid too. In the end it was believed he robbed 10 or a few more from 3 cemeteries. LE only dug the 1st 2 to verify they caskets were empty. The remains were buried in a marked mass grave. The poor families trying to figure out if their beloved person’s grave was disturbed. The Sheriff had only been there 5 months with no experience. He attacked Gein after coming to the jail after 6 hrs in that house. His last victim “Bernice Worden” That was hung up and trussed like a deer. Was the the mother of one of his deputies, He died of a massive heart attack at 43. Gein picked the graves by the obituaries in the newspaper. The house burned down in March 1958. Someone wanted to turn it into a museum. Nope. The house had no running water or electricity. It was abandoned. No accidental wood stove fire. I remember a guy touring the country with his car. He would go to fairs. Cash in on that. That’s wrong. I don’t want to even touch anything. His brothers death was stated a heart attack. But there have been questions regarding the circumstances. If Ed killed him too. I could see it. His brother wanted to move in with a woman who had a child already that was illegitimate. Augusta got very pizzed. Not what she taught them. He was breaking free from there too. You’re not leaving. And you disappointed mother. Yeah. Perfect example of really the most depraved of them ALL. That looks completely harmless. That you would offer help too. I don’t understand when people complain about a documentary about a serial killer is too violent. What?! This one!!! It is the most graphic I’ve seen. There are very strong warnings. And it isn’t hype! So yeah. I didn’t think it could possibly be worse.
 
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Been binge watching Murderous Minds this weekend. It's free if you have Amazon Prime.

 
I was watching a 2 part documentary on this POS! He wa ls given the death penalty in 1984!!!! He is 93!!!!!! There are 574 inmates in death row over 60 yrs old!!!! THAT'S NOT JUSTICE!!!! He had mom 8ssues because she made him take ballet as a child. AWWWW. GREAT EXCUSE!!!! POS!!!!! HE IS EVIL!!!! Different "David Carpenter" Than the one who killed "Bob Crane". THESE PEOPLE WITH THEIR SIGNS! I BET THEY NEVER LOST ANYONE TO MURDER!!! JUST SAY NO TO MORE DAYS ON DEATH ROW!!!

 
I was watching a 2 part documentary on this POS! He wa ls given the death penalty in 1984!!!! He is 93!!!!!! There are 574 inmates in death row over 60 yrs old!!!! THAT'S NOT JUSTICE!!!! He had mom 8ssues because she made him take ballet as a child. AWWWW. GREAT EXCUSE!!!! POS!!!!! HE IS EVIL!!!! Different "David Carpenter" Than the one who killed "Bob Crane". THESE PEOPLE WITH THEIR SIGNS! I BET THEY NEVER LOST ANYONE TO MURDER!!! JUST SAY NO TO MORE DAYS ON DEATH ROW!!!

EVIL POS.

Don't people have to work or have anything better to do than protest those that have already been convicted and sentenced to death? Maybe they should pay for the years of their incarceration then. And God forbid they then ever free any of them if such were to happen.

I will never disagree with the DP for SOME offenders in SOME cases.
 
We do have a separate thread for the Connecticut River Valley killer here too if anyone is interested in discussing this particular case more:

 
We do have a separate thread for the Connecticut River Valley killer here too if anyone is interested in discussing this particular case more:

I missed that! Thank you!
 
Eyewitness accounts don't match in the disappearance of "Cynthia Kinney". The day she went missing, She was working at the laundromat, A witness stated she got into a beige Plymouth with 2 people. One statement says it was with 2 males. Another said 1 male, And 1 female. There was talk she joined a religious cult. Yeah O.K. No leads could be tied by investigators to a religious cult. It was also stated she was seen minutes before disappearing with "Hobart Green". His wife disappeared in 1961. He had been under great suspicion for her disappearance. In 1984, 59 yrs old. Killed his son 20 mths old and buried him on his property. He beat him to death. Hitting him between 40-50 times. I would doubt he was involved. "Rader". What stands out is "Bad laundry day". He liked to visit laundromats and watch girls. But "Cynthia's" Disappearance just doesn't seem like BTK's pattern. IMO. But he did visit the town with "The Boy Scouts". And if they can tie in him working that day. It seems to lean that way with his diary entries.

Oklahoma sheriff finds name of 1976 missing teen in old BTK crossword puzzle​

The Osage County Oklahoma Sheriff’s Office says an old crossword puzzle from Dennis “BTK” Rader links the serial killer to the disappearance of Cynthia Dawn Kinney from Pawhuska, Oklahoma.

The Osage County Oklahoma Sheriff’s Office first connected Rader to the case nine months ago. At that time, the district attorney for the area said there was “insufficient” evidence linking him to the disappearance of the then 16-year-old.

KSN’s sister station in Oklahoma City, KFOR, sat down with the sheriff on Tuesday. KSN dug into details of that interview, and the evidence he says is “hard to get around.”


Sheriff Virden announced on August 2023 that they believe Rader is the prime suspect in Kinney’s disappearance. He believes a second look at the puzzle reveals a deeper connection.

“It’s pretty hard to get around the fact that Cindy Kinney’s name is in there, that Osage Laundromat is in there, that Pawhuska is in there,” said Sheriff Virden.


Still, Sheriff Virden stands by the evidence he says they’ve found.

“We found carvings markings in barns, things we believe are 100% proof he has operated within our area,” he said.

KSN’s Julia Thatcher reached out to District Attorney Mike Fisher and asked if he had a statement based on these new claims. He provided the following statement:

“I have not heard Mr. Virden’s latest pronouncement about Dennis Rader and the Cynthia Kinney case. However, I can tell you that the cold case unit of the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation has found no connection tying Rader to Cynthia’s disappearance. They are still investigating other possibilities but because of the age of the Kinney case have found nothing that points to a particular suspect.”


Sheriff Virden said his department plans to investigate both new and old locations that may have connections to Rader’s victims soon. The Osage County Sheriff’s Office created a National BTK Task Force back in September to help aid in Kinney’s case.
 
I don't know what is going on here but would guess politics and ego.

Rader's daughter also points to this one although she has disappeared after being all over YT and different news stations and so on.

I glanced at the puzzles but it is beyond me at the moment but what I do know and heard it from the daughter, there is a pi**ing match going on between agencies and those in power. Hard to now who to believe.
 
I did not know where else to park this. I have gone both ways on Rader's daughter who has been making the rounds the last year or so and then has disappeared for awhile. She also supported LISK's wife without knowing sh*t about it and that I didn't think much of.

And it isn't at the outset of this video but it goes to Rader and Keri comes on.... And wow. And was this saved for Crime Con? I do feel this was saved for sensational and Crime Con which I don't like but so now we have a claim he molested her based on his journals or some such....

I don't even know what to think any longer. It on one hand isn't hard to believe by someone like Rader but....

Pretty interesting but apparently saved for this moment...

 

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