Discussion on Serial Killers, Spree Killers, Mass Killers, And single event killers.

To start. I have always found Serial Killers fascinating. What makes them do what they do?. I know I am not the only one. This is the place to talk about it. I'll start. Who do you find the most fascinating and why?.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Multiple personality is rare, So rarely used as a defense. It's always "Insanity" plea. And they aren't. They do extremely sick things. But do they understand right from wrong?. Do they know why they are in jail and what they are being charged with?. Very few have been declared insane. "Ed Gein" Was. And for very good reason. He was institutionalized in 1958 until his death in 1984. Dahmer did very sick things. But not insane.

Yeah actually it is more like experts probably don't fall for that one faked so much because it is rare and they know it. I do think perps often just throw things out there hoping they will be suspected of having multiples or of having something at least wrong like talking of a person that doesn't exist, talking TO a person who isn't there, etc. just hoping something sticks, is diagnosed, suspected or can be USED as defense.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

But they don't seek help when they start having violent and abnormal thoughts. Iam sorry for their childhood, But they use it as a license to kill and an excuse. So if you were abused Mr. Serial killer, You want to hurt others that did nothing to you?. You want to take out your abuse on someone else?. I can't think of any right now that didn't gave an excuse for doing it. They never want to take responsibility.

I didn't mean that as an excuse. It's just an observation.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

I am watching a documentary "Crazy, Not Insane". No, I'm not in it. It covers the brains of serial killers, Psychotic children, Dissociative disorder (Multiple Personality Disorder). People think it's B.S. it's not. It's rare. But exists. They have only found it in people that were severely abused and traumatized in childhood. Makes sense. The child creates another personality that is stronger and will protect them. It can often spread to more personalities for different things and needs. It discusses brain scans, Shawcross footage. Ugh. Park Dietz has a video speaking with him and he is interviewed. People who had a tumor and committed crimes after they got the brain tumor and didn't know but everyone noticed a difference.There's alot. It's very interesting.

Dr. Dorothy Lewis is the lunatic who had a theory that Shawcross had a multiple personalities that was eviscerated on the stand by the DA. I'm watching it now.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

Wow! They go really in depth on Shawcross!

 

[Mel70]

Dr. Dorothy Lewis is the lunatic who had a theory that Shawcross had a multiple personalities that was eviscerated on the stand by the DA. I'm watching it now.

And Bundy's alter ego."The Entity". Please.

 

[Mel70]

Wow! They go really in depth on Shawcross!

He was full of s**t too. Bessie. Yeah O.K. Excuses. The only ones he wouldn't talk about is the 2 children he killed in Watertown, Because he couldn't excuse them away. Paroled early to commit the later crimes. Just like the uncountable times parole boards have done this.

 

[Mel70]

What I really disagreed with her on was the word "Evil" is based from religion. Come on. How else do you explain what they do or what kind of person does such horrendous things. It's evil. They are. An animal?. No. They are better than humans. A monster?. You think of Frankenstein. Etc. I never thought using the word evil was just from the Bible.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Interesting article.

Where are 3 missing Tampa Bay women? The answer may rest with ‘the devil.’

Three women vanished between 1974 and 1989 after trying to end affairs with a man named Cleveland Hill. Their families have learned to live without answers.

www.tampabay.com

Where are 3 missing Tampa Bay women? The answer may rest with ‘the devil.’​

Three women vanished between 1974 and 1989 after trying to end affairs with a man named Cleveland Hill. Their families have learned to live without answers.


Cleveland Hill Jr. had a sense of mystery about him. Neighbors whispered his name with fear and respect. His daughter made a podcast series dedicated to unraveling his legend: the son of a snake catcher hunting for mistresses at the neighborhood Pentecostal church; a successful businessman and sly drug dealer; and a murderous, devil-worshipping husband who practiced black magic.

Most of all, Hill is the single connection between three missing women, including Hiers, who vanished from the Tampa Bay region between 1974 and 1989. Each tried to end a romantic relationship with him prior to vanishing.

 

[Mel70]

I was a ghost writer on that.
Pfffft.

 

[Mel70]

Interesting article.

Where are 3 missing Tampa Bay women? The answer may rest with ‘the devil.’

Three women vanished between 1974 and 1989 after trying to end affairs with a man named Cleveland Hill. Their families have learned to live without answers.

www.tampabay.com

Where are 3 missing Tampa Bay women? The answer may rest with ‘the devil.’​

Three women vanished between 1974 and 1989 after trying to end affairs with a man named Cleveland Hill. Their families have learned to live without answers.


Cleveland Hill Jr. had a sense of mystery about him. Neighbors whispered his name with fear and respect. His daughter made a podcast series dedicated to unraveling his legend: the son of a snake catcher hunting for mistresses at the neighborhood Pentecostal church; a successful businessman and sly drug dealer; and a murderous, devil-worshipping husband who practiced black magic.

Most of all, Hill is the single connection between three missing women, including Hiers, who vanished from the Tampa Bay region between 1974 and 1989. Each tried to end a romantic relationship with him prior to vanishing.

One of those. A serial killer that kills whoever tries to leave him. I've never heard of him, I'll have to read up on him. Thank you. But Is he single now?. Sounds like a great guy. Oh probably not. I was 4 in 74. Nevermind.

 

[Mel70]

Oh wow! In 1968 he shot his wife and mother in law. But was out by 1974. That makes sense.

 

[Mel70]

I'd get more time from things hanging on my rear view mirror. I can't understand that short of a sentence for that. But if I started writing down every case. There would be thousands.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Oh wow! In 1968 he shot his wife and mother in law. But was out by 1974. That makes sense.

Six year sentence on murder. That's what we got. They should have to EXPLAIN giving SUCH sentences where a death is involved.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

Court TV runs episodes of “Investigative Reports”. I usually won't watch them because they are so old. However, the one on tonight is about Dorothy Lewis and Arthur Shawcross.

 

[GrandmaBear]

The Daybelll (Vallow) video by Nate Eaton is a bit long but doesn't start until 21 minutes in. I am just in the last 17 minutes and I am listening to the arguments but the entire thing pretty much the camera is on Lori lol. For that reason alone it is not dull because she is so fake in her expressions, etc. and there are two faces It's entertaining but at the same time that woman _______s me off!!!

 

[GrandmaBear]

Whoops wrong thread, but she is a MULTIPLE killer.

 

[Mel70]

Court TV runs episodes of “Investigative Reports”. I usually won't watch them because they are so old. However, the one on tonight is about Dorothy Lewis and Arthur Shawcross.

I like old ones. It's interesting when a case wasn't solved when a show airs and has been since.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

I like old ones. It's interesting when a case wasn't solved when a show airs and has been since.

Those are cool, but they are few and far between. A lot of it is stuff that's way outdated.

 

[Mel70]

Court TV runs episodes of “Investigative Reports”. I usually won't watch them because they are so old. However, the one on tonight is about Dorothy Lewis and Arthur Shawcross.

Shawcross was so full of s**t. "Weapons Specialist". Riiiight. A Clerk that never saw combat. They contacted his Commanding officer. Dumbazz.