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Discussion on Serial Killers, Spree Killers, Mass Killers, And single event killers. (4 Viewers)

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To start. I have always found Serial Killers fascinating. What makes them do what they do?. I know I am not the only one. This is the place to talk about it. I'll start. Who do you find the most fascinating and why?.
 
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IDKY They are bringing it up now. He died over 30 yrs ago. It was on camera, But everything that happened goes on every single day in prisons. If they knew how much fun he was having they would let him out?. No Richard. And claimed drug induced amnesia. There's the excuse. He was too methodical and in control of the situation and of many nurses. What a lie. He was a sicko deviant mass killer of nurses. He was repulsive, And I am not surprised by what he was doing in prison. People become, And stay addicts in prison. Cocaine, O.K. that's mild compared to now. And marijuana, Give me a break.

It was an old episode.
 
Just watched a show about Karen Pedley. First I've ever heard of a woman serial arsonist. Only one person died in her fires, but she continued to light the fires after someone died in one.

Good God! So you set the fire to save people?. But the smoke was too much. Well that happens. Ever heard "Where there's smoke there's fire"?. Then someone died. And you continued to do it. That makes perfect sense. I have to question the one from when you were 10. She has low intelligence. Yeah. So?. She knew what she was doing. She was apparently wanting to be a hero from a fire she started. Firebug. And a personality disorder. Me too. Excuses all the time. I had tons of bruises from the weekend, Alot of paper cuts, 2 hangnails, And an ingrown toenail that day. I was really irritable. And don't get me started about traffic at rushour that day. It was worse. Construction and an accident.
 
There's a show called Confessions of a Serial Killer on Crimes + Investigation network. A woman who is an investigator who interviews Dennis Rader. It's from this year and has many episodes.

I'm watching it right now, but I'll listen to it while I'm going to sleep.
 
There's a show called Confessions of a Serial Killer on Crimes + Investigation network. A woman who is an investigator who interviews Dennis Rader. It's from this year and has many episodes.

I'm watching it right now, but I'll listen to it while I'm going to sleep.
We don't have that channel. There's "Confessions of a Serial Killer" Series that has 3 seasons. On Tubi. And "BTK:Chasing a Serial Killer" on Investigation Discovery that is 2 parts that I watched before. Rader really pizzes me off. Just telling everything so coldly matter of fact and arrogant. Gary Ridgeway makes me want to jump through the screen. He really infuriates me.
 
I am watched on "Netflix" Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story. It's 10 episodes. I thought it was good.bit did not glorify him by any means. It focused alot on the victims, Their families, The next door neighbor of him in the "Oxford Apartments". She reported the smells several times, Sounds of what sounded like fighting or someone being attacked. And drills and saws. The police, Not once came. And she called the police to check later the same night the status of the 14 yr old boy Konrak. It was recorded and played. She told them he didn't look 19. Asked the officer on the phone if they were sure. It was a "Boyfriend-Boyfriend thing". The police handed him back to Dahmer. They joked about it and were fired. But later reinstated. :mad:Dahmer had molested Konrak's brother and the judge went easy on him. 1 yr in jail. By that time he had already killed Konrak also. Dahmer killed another 14 yr old. James Donato. You don't hear about him because...He was a runaway that was prostituting. Dahmer did pick him up and was seen with him, But no part of him was ever found. Same with alot of the victims. He dismembered all of them. 17 total. It showed Lionel's love for Jeff and wanting him not to be released but ti be in a hospital to get treatment. He also wanted to know what made Jeff the way he was. I have always felt for Lionel. He was open and honest and gave no excuses for what Jeff did. The man who killed Dahmer, Christopher Scarver was in prison for murder and beat another inmate that day assigned with Jeff to clean. He died 2 days later. He was a murderer also. Killing his wife by stabbing her to death after dinner at "TGI Fridays". Said 2 black men did it. But Scarver said God told him to act his revenge. Yeah O.K. It's so obvious it was a set up from the guards. The series is from "Ryan Murphy". He made "Feud", "American Horror Story", "Ratchet", And more. I think he is very good. Now for cast...Jeff's grandma, I thought...Who is that?. Michael Learned. Mom Walton. Evan Peters as Dahmer. Murphy has used him a few times. Including several seasons of AHS. Joyce Dahmer. Penelope Ann Miller. She had struggled with some serious mental illness. Lionel's 2nd wife Shari. I looked and said...It couldn't be. But it was. MOLLY RINGWALD! The queen of my teen movies?. What?! Lionel and Shari are still alive and living in Ohio. Jeff's younger brother David is reported as still alive and reportedly changed his name. The neighbor died in 2:011 at age 56 from heart disease and high blood pressure.
 
I am watched on "Netflix" Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story. It's 10 episodes. I thought it was good.bit did not glorify him by any means. It focused alot on the victims, Their families, The next door neighbor of him in the "Oxford Apartments". She reported the smells several times, Sounds of what sounded like fighting or someone being attacked. And drills and saws. The police, Not once came. And she called the police to check later the same night the status of the 14 yr old boy Konrak. It was recorded and played. She told them he didn't look 19. Asked the officer on the phone if they were sure. It was a "Boyfriend-Boyfriend thing". The police handed him back to Dahmer. They joked about it and were fired. But later reinstated. :mad:Dahmer had molested Konrak's brother and the judge went easy on him. 1 yr in jail. By that time he had already killed Konrak also. Dahmer killed another 14 yr old. James Donato. You don't hear about him because...He was a runaway that was prostituting. Dahmer did pick him up and was seen with him, But no part of him was ever found. Same with alot of the victims. He dismembered all of them. 17 total. It showed Lionel's love for Jeff and wanting him not to be released but ti be in a hospital to get treatment. He also wanted to know what made Jeff the way he was. I have always felt for Lionel. He was open and honest and gave no excuses for what Jeff did. The man who killed Dahmer, Christopher Scarver was in prison for murder and beat another inmate that day assigned with Jeff to clean. He died 2 days later. He was a murderer also. Killing his wife by stabbing her to death after dinner at "TGI Fridays". Said 2 black men did it. But Scarver said God told him to act his revenge. Yeah O.K. It's so obvious it was a set up from the guards. The series is from "Ryan Murphy". He made "Feud", "American Horror Story", "Ratchet", And more. I think he is very good. Now for cast...Jeff's grandma, I thought...Who is that?. Michael Learned. Mom Walton. Evan Peters as Dahmer. Murphy has used him a few times. Including several seasons of AHS. Joyce Dahmer. Penelope Ann Miller. She had struggled with some serious mental illness. Lionel's 2nd wife Shari. I looked and said...It couldn't be. But it was. MOLLY RINGWALD! The queen of my teen movies?. What?! Lionel and Shari are still alive and living in Ohio. Jeff's younger brother David is reported as still alive and reportedly changed his name. The neighbor died in 2:011 at age 56 from heart disease and high blood pressure.

I'm watching it right now and it's astounding how many times the cops had a chance to stop him and just ignored it. I was also unaware of how many of his victims were African Americans.
 
I'm watching it right now and it's astounding how many times the cops had a chance to stop him and just ignored it. I was also unaware of how many of his victims were African Americans.
I did. They tried to make it racial. It wasn't. First 2 he killed were white. He killed a Laotian boy. A Native American boy. He said "Whoever he thought was beautiful". He molested the brother of the Laotian boy he killed. That is how he became a registered sex offender. He repeatedly raped a fellow soldier he would drug. The man was interviewed and he had reported it to his CO's. He was white also.
 
Carol DaRonch. Wow. They don't glorify him. They focus on the victims and the impact of the families. Including his own, Especially Lionel who wanted him to get mental help. Joyce had some serious mental illness issues and it was no fault of her own. But I do wonder if they were passed to Jeff. They just manifested differently. And I have to question how much of the multitude of drugs had an effect. Joyce wanted his brain studied after death. Lionel fought her and lost, And his brain was cremated also. It would have been interesting to study it. There very well may have been some abnormalities. I give no excuses for him. But understanding why is what may shed light on some of these killers and help in the future. Lionel always was searching for the reason why.
 
I've seen that courtroom outburst numerous times. I'm sorry but the T shirt didn't make a good impression. You don't wear that to court. When she went off. I don't blame her at all, He didn't look at her or flinch when she was coming towards him. IDKY she would have a problem with the reenactment. That's exactly how she acted. Again, I don't blame her. Finding out someone is there in court that killed someone you care about. Then to hear about the awful things that were done to them. I would go off on court too. GO OFF!!! My limit. Try to jump over and kill them even.
 
I knew about the photos before. I found it sad. How it must have hurt him. That he was nothing. To be blacked out, Or strategically erased. A loner who wants to make friends would be hit harder by that. Where others would laugh it off because it was a joke to begin with. He did bring alcohol in a cup to class once. A girl sitting by him asked him if it was liquor. He took a sip. Threw his head back and said "It's my medicine". It was said by many people the there were no warning signs. But I think there were plenty.
 
It's shameful where the building was is still a vacant lot. There was supposed to be a memorial garden. They destroyed the building within a couple years after the crime. At least before he was killed in 1994 and he was caught July 1991. I remember I had went to my parents in the middle of the day and breaking news came on. I first saw the blue barrel being carried out by men in Hazmat suits and the news that dismembered bodies were found. I was....WTF?! In this series they talk to Dahmer about Ed Gein. Some of the facts are incorrect. That he killed MANY people. No he didn't. 2. And suspected 1st one of his brother's in a field on the property in a fire. They could never say definitely. Then 2 women. So technically he isn't a serial killer. And one news clip of a on scene reporter on Dahmer called him a "Mass murderer". Noooo. They kill all at once in one location.
 
I'm watching it right now and it's astounding how many times the cops had a chance to stop him and just ignored it. I was also unaware of how many of his victims were African Americans.
if I’d lost a loved one to that beast, it would be so hard to live with the knowledge of how LE really dropped the ball repeatedly, thus allowing, ultimately, so much carnage to occur and then just slide by under the radar.
 
I'm watching it right now and it's astounding how many times the cops had a chance to stop him and just ignored it. I was also unaware of how many of his victims were African Americans.
There really was no excuse for how many times cops did not get Dahmer or look into things or how close it was.

I honestly have to wonder about the southern part of our state sometimes. I have friends in Milwaukee but the "better" part, and I don't mean that in a snobbish way but they differentiate where they live from main Milwaukee probably for good reason. There have been cases since I have been on here that I just can't get over but they have a population I think that is entirely different than some areas and big city. Close enough to Chicago and more too.

And that is crimes nowadays--Dahmer has been some years back and not an impressive police job imo. I have Netflix but not sure I will get a chance to watch it for some time.
 
I'm watching something on ID called BTK: The taunting (part 2) I missed part one and came in late on this one. It talks about the weeks before he was arrested. It's fascinating. Hopefully, I'll be able to see both of them again sometime.
 

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