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Bernard Madoff says he is dying and is asking a judge for compassionate release from prison, where he is serving 150 years for orchestrating the largest Ponzi scheme in history, according to a Wednesday federal court filing.

Madoff, 81, has terminal kidney failure and a life expectancy of less than 18 months. When the court sentenced him, “it was clear that Madoff’s 150-year prison sentence was symbolic for three reasons: retribution, deterrence, and for the victims,” the court filing states. “This Court must now consider whether keeping Madoff incarcerated … is truly in furtherance of statutory sentencing goals and our society’s value and understanding of compassion.”

Madoff said in the request for compassionate release that he “does not dispute the severity of his crimes.”


IMO- stay in jail
 
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I suspect there is more to this story and likely on both sides. The Apple is known for tubing and it is also known for tubers drinking. It has been a thing since back in even my older siblings' time, my time and probably still is. It is a day of floating and fun with again drinking for most that go. I don't recall many not drinking and the reason for that is they don't want to be around tons of people, crowds really, drinking and some to excess.

It wouldn't surprise me if the minors were drinking and hard to say about the man arrested but very likely probably as well. WHERE were his wife and friends? I don't know what they mean by visiting the lake since this was the Apple River.

I'd like to know what he was doing out there and if what he said checks out. Was he bothering the girls or really looking for a cell phone...? Honestly what cell phone is going to be worth a hoot if in the river and if found anyhow? I guess it could have been in a waterproof case.

Thus far it doesn't sound like all was caught on video as to what started the problem or incident.

And I wonder if any of the youths will be charged as it sounds like they converged on him as well. That isn't self defense by the youths if he was not a threat at that moment.

It used to be a fun river trip with harmless drinking types quite honestly. I am sure nondrinkers went down too but again it was known for a day of floating and drinking. NIght camping and later daytimes may have been more of an issue but I tubed it many times without issue, people just floated, got some sun and had some drinks and all were for the most part pretty friendly any time I went. And I don't remember anyone being "armed". Maybe a guy would have a pocket knife to cut twine or rope to tie your group's tubes together but I never saw anyone brandish one and I doubt even that, I think you could get cut twine at the tube place if I recall. In fact, you didn't want anything on you that might get lost or wet as the tubing ends with some rocks and rapids.

@Mel70 would also know. She has referred to this river and floating down it not that long ago. A popular pasttime for decades near the WI/MN border for people from both states.
 
MAGA?? News likes to pit people against others doesn't it... Let's just make things worse in this world. A stabbing on the Apple River in WI of teens is POLITICAL? Unless I missed something, I don't see a single sign of that.

I'd sure like to see the video and the page in the comments didn't show the entire document either as far as I could tell and I'd like to see it.

He attacked and it is wrong but it is also clear in that document at that point he was being attacked.

I'd really like to know the beginning of it all. Why were they calling him a pervert and claiming he was looking for young children or some such? And it is claimed he got physical striking a girl first but that is part that doesn't seem corroborated by video thus far. Not saying he didn't, just that one side says that.

On the flip side though and to doubt his story, etc. WHERE was his party/his people when this was all going on and what was he doing out there and how did this all come about? Was he tubing with his group or alone? It said in the first article on this here that he was at the "lake" with friends and his wife. Not the river. I took it to be a "lake home" in the area but who knows...
 
MAGA?? News likes to pit people against others doesn't it... Let's just make things worse in this world. A stabbing on the Apple River in WI of teens is POLITICAL? Unless I missed something, I don't see a single sign of that.

I'd sure like to see the video and the page in the comments didn't show the entire document either as far as I could tell and I'd like to see it.

He attacked and it is wrong but it is also clear in that document at that point he was being attacked.

I'd really like to know the beginning of it all. Why were they calling him a pervert and claiming he was looking for young children or some such? And it is claimed he got physical striking a girl first but that is part that doesn't seem corroborated by video thus far. Not saying he didn't, just that one side says that.

On the flip side though and to doubt his story, etc. WHERE was his party/his people when this was all going on and what was he doing out there and how did this all come about? Was he tubing with his group or alone? It said in the first article on this here that he was at the "lake" with friends and his wife. Not the river. I took it to be a "lake home" in the area but who knows...
I wasn't happy with that being in the headline either. Why? People stirring a pot that didn't need stirred.
 
MAGA?? News likes to pit people against others doesn't it... Let's just make things worse in this world. A stabbing on the Apple River in WI of teens is POLITICAL? Unless I missed something, I don't see a single sign of that.

I'd sure like to see the video and the page in the comments didn't show the entire document either as far as I could tell and I'd like to see it.

He attacked and it is wrong but it is also clear in that document at that point he was being attacked.

I'd really like to know the beginning of it all. Why were they calling him a pervert and claiming he was looking for young children or some such? And it is claimed he got physical striking a girl first but that is part that doesn't seem corroborated by video thus far. Not saying he didn't, just that one side says that.

On the flip side though and to doubt his story, etc. WHERE was his party/his people when this was all going on and what was he doing out there and how did this all come about? Was he tubing with his group or alone? It said in the first article on this here that he was at the "lake" with friends and his wife. Not the river. I took it to be a "lake home" in the area but who knows...
It also explains part of your questions in the article about witnesses are saying that started it and who he was with.
 
I wasn't happy with that being in the headline either. Why? People stirring a pot that didn't need stirred.
I find it ridiculous unless there was some political basis for this incident and nothing I have read indicates any such thing. But who knows what was being said, that is the part that is still missing... As well as what he was doing out there, what he was doing and who was with him and if no one, WHY?

If this was a busy weekend groups of tubes are constant and there are no boats or anything, at least not anything with motors, never used to be anyhow, maybe you'd see a kayak, don't know, been many, many years for me but the tubing miles aren't insanely deep and the river isn't overlyl wide but wide enough. It is the Apple not the St. Croix or Mississippi. There are some residences along the river as one tubes (used to be anyhow) and that first article about him being with friends at the "lake" make me wonder if they were at a riverside home BUT he also could have been at a lake home and they all decided to tube that day on this river and drove there to do what many do. But if so, WHERE are his friends and wife? They seem noticeably absent so why was he out there by himself?

There is a lot missing here yet and it all relates to what first transpired, who escalated and why? And who did what?
 
It also explains part of your questions in the article about witnesses are saying that started it and who he was with.
I'll have to go read it again, I did read it and didn't see that. I mean I saw what others said and saw that he told his wife his knife was taken from him, etc. but I didn't see anything about the start of the incident and why his wife wouldn't have known otherwise if she was right there, etc.?
 
I find it ridiculous unless there was some political basis for this incident and nothing I have read indicates any such thing. But who knows what was being said, that is the part that is still missing... As well as what he was doing out there, what he was doing and who was with him and if no one, WHY?

If this was a busy weekend groups of tubes are constant and there are no boats or anything, at least not anything with motors, never used to be anyhow, maybe you'd see a kayak, don't know, been many, many years for me but the tubing miles aren't insanely deep and the river isn't overlyl wide but wide enough. It is the Apple not the St. Croix or Mississippi. There are some residences along the river as one tubes (used to be anyhow) and that first article about him being with friends at the "lake" make me wonder if they were at a riverside home BUT he also could have been at a lake home and they all decided to tube that day on this river and drove there to do what many do. But if so, WHERE are his friends and wife? They seem noticeably absent so why was he out there by himself?

There is a lot missing here yet and it all relates to what first transpired, who escalated and why? And who did what?
The ONLY reason to put it in the headline was to inflame. It had nothing to do with these incident itself and people only found it after looking him up online after thre incident.
 
The ONLY reason to put it in the headline was to inflame. It had nothing to do with these incident itself and people only found it after looking him up online after thre incident.
I agree. It is just like using every shooting case as a basis for the gun argument and every other thing they try to involve politics in. There are victims here and a criminal case. Period.
 
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