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The LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER * GUILTY PLEA* (30 Viewers)

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Who is the Long Island serial killer? This is a general discussion thread about this terrifying case.


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No, doesn't work like that. It's not like driving a car LOL. More searches you do the more you find out.
I can search FOR a thread and usually works. But trying to search THROUGH a particular thread I've never gotten to work. Hey these days, I'm hardly driving a car either, and I'm definitely not trying to ride a bike. Lol.

Anyhow that job is on you. Sorry friend lol. :D
 
He should be able to get out by using the cat tree right?
Not sure but doubtful lol The cat tree is probably deck rail height. Not a huge one, just average. Then I have fencing that goes up to probably twice the height of what it is to the deck rail and then it ends and is open. One night a few years ago something was out there all night having a fit. Probably a squirrel. Once in awhile a bird flies over and can't find it's way out. It is fairly rare thank God. That night I wasn't sure what it was and I called one of my sisters I knew would be up late as I was freaked, I mean I wasn't sure what was out there and I was not going to open the door as then it could get in whatever it was lol. I learned some years ago, I had a bird feeder to not do that any longer as of course it attracts squirrels and such. Again it is fairly rare and i have nothing out there to attract them and I am second floor. I don't have too much trouble generally.

LOL I haven't seen him in probably five minutes so hopefully this was a rare smart one and went on his way. I'm almost glad the cats are dozing but they would have been excited had they been up. I don't need it lol.

Thank God I didn't have the door open, I sometimes do. I don't get much for flies or bugs either on second floor although I do keep it shut more in July and August as then one can, or I mostly do. One benefit of not being first floor. The cats are just dozing away never had a clue.

My heat is uncontrollable too and sometimes when daughter is over she throws the doors open when dark. I ask her nicely not to as light attracts or my cats get onto the deck and I don't know if they are inside or out. I ask her to just keep at least the screen door shut, I get that she wants to cool it off. Lol. But don't let things come in or get out in the dark.

Very off topic but generally during the day almost all months I can open up the doors if say not too cold or don't want to like below zero or something and so on but every once in awhile I get an animal that gets over the fence. the

Overall it is great. I don't worry about intruders much either. I figure they'd have to climb up and tear the fencing down and I'd hear them and leave through the front door before they could ever get in lol. I do lock up though at night, etc. If for any reason I would forget, well, still fairly safe. I did catch kids one year trying to climb up. Sigh.

Anyhow it is a typical apartment deck but fenced in for my cats, we did that. Gives them at least some outdoor time and life.

Yeah, haven't seen the squirrel in a long time now, so think it might have been a rare smart one and knew how to get out and move on.
 
I think so too, killed at same time. Found so many years apart though, I did catch that in the presser and knew it before. I will give them credit that they connected mom and daughter considering they were not found anywhere near to the same times.
They knew she had had a child though because of the Caesarian scar.
 
I can search FOR a thread and usually works. But trying to search THROUGH a particular thread I've never gotten to work. Hey these days, I'm hardly driving a car either, and I'm definitely not trying to ride a bike. Lol.

Anyhow that job is on you. Sorry friend lol. :D
Yeah well OK. I don't mind really but i am not here during your evenings due to time diff. Kim will know better than me anyway.
 
They knew she had had a child though because of the Caesarian scar.
Well yes but found years apart they didn't have a reason to think the child was with her or was hers right? So connecting them I think was pretty good work. I mean the child was like two, not like the C section was recent.
 
Yeah well OK. I don't mind really but i am not here during your evenings due to time diff. Kim will know better than me anyway.
Yeah I kind of hate our time difference as you are one of the most active on the threads as to discussing.

I have tried the searching back, I don't get how to get it to go back through all pages I guess.
 
i remember seeing the news back then when all the bodies were being found and it was i think valerie mack???? that the baby was found buried next to am i wrong? purposely buried very far apart
 
I'm not following. The child was found years later. I mean she could have been a woman on her own when killed, they never knew who she was nor had any reason to think she had a child with her when killed. No?
 
i remember seeing the news back then when all the bodies were being found and it was i think valerie mack???? that the baby was found buried next to am i wrong? purposely buried very far apart
@Tresir would know that better than I probably. But yes, they purposely were I think separated and they were found YEARS apart so I think the fact LE put mom and daughter together was good work unless I am missing something...

Totally possible lol.
 
@Tresir would know that better than I probably. But yes, they purposely were I think separated and they were found YEARS apart so I think the fact LE put mom and daughter together was good work unless I am missing something...

Totally possible lol.
As I understand it and I could have this mixed up, Tanya's headless and limbless body only was found in April '97, just a few days after her death, in a Rubbermaid container with some other items (blanket and gold jewellery?). Tatiana, the daughter, wearing similar jewellery and Tanya's limbs were not found till 2007 at a similar time to each other. Tanya's head has never been found.
 
As I understand it and I could have this mixed up, Tanya's headless and limbless body only was found in April '97, just a few days after her death, in a Rubbermaid container with some other items (gold jewellery?). Tatiana, the daughter, wearing similar jewellery and Tanya's limbs were not found till 2007 at a similar time to each other. Tanya's head has never been found.
Yes that's right
 
As I understand it and I could have this mixed up, Tanya's headless and limbless body only was found in April '97, just a few days after her death, in a Rubbermaid container with some other items (blanket and gold jewellery?). Tatiana, the daughter, wearing similar jewellery and Tanya's limbs were not found till 2007 at a similar time to each other. Tanya's head has never been found.
I knew that I guess, in a tote, she was. It all was in the presser yesterday. I meant as far as near Valerie Mack, etc.?
 
Interesting. They are now looking at all the victims. From your article -

:Heuermann still remains charged with the murders of Melissa Barthelemy, Megan Waterman, and Amber Lynn Costello, and is considered a prime suspect in the murder of Maureen Brainard-Barnes, the four women found dead in Gilgo Beach in December 2010.

But the investigation is continuing, according to Tierney, and has expanded.

“We initially said that our investigation is centered around the Gilgo Four,” he said. “We’re prepared to bring charges with regard three out of the four, and we’re working on the fourth. Now we have expanded our investigation to include other bodies that were recovered in that area. We’ll speak about that when and if we’re prepared to bring charges.”

The other remains found on either Gilgo Beach or other parts of Ocean Parkway include the partial remains of Jessica Taylor, Valerie Mack, Karen Vergata, and the still unidentified “Peaches,” her daughter, and a male victim known as Asian Male Doe.

Peaches’ partial remains had first been found at Hempstead Lake State Park in 1997 before more were found along Ocean Parkway on Jones Beach in 2011. Taylor and Mack’s partial remains had been initially found in 2000 and 2003, respectively, in Manorville before each of their skulls were found near Cedar Beach in 2011. Baby Doe and Asian Male were also found off Ocean Parkway in 2011.

Tierney did not directly confirm if all of those victims were being investigated as the work of Heuermann, but said “We’re investigating other instances where individuals were left on Gilgo.” "
As it is getting confusing, I am just bringing this post forward as a reminder of how, when and where the victims were found. It's getting late here now.
 
As it is getting confusing, I am just bringing this post forward as a reminder of how, when and where the victims were found. It's getting late here now.
Yeah, I'm almost always conscious of the time difference. Man it was hard enough with Daybell and waiting for trial and we are in the same country for that here, just a few hours off in some zones lol.

I don't know if I am ever going to keep all straight here re victims, whereabouts and how found. Am aware of the big things though and some of that with some of them. I just can't seem to lock it all in.

And aware that RH is a big CB when it comes to self and things like butter. Lol.
 
Well yes but found years apart they didn't have a reason to think the child was with her or was hers right? So connecting them I think was pretty good work. I mean the child was like two, not like the C section was recent.
Yeah they were found 14 years apart IIRC. 1997 and 2011 in separate counties. Tanya's head and limbs were removed and Tanya's head was never found. The killer did that to lessen the possibility of identification IMO. DNA wasn't a thing then in '97 was it or it was certainly new? Why wasn't the gold jewellery sold by the murderer?
 
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Yeah they were found 14 years apart IIRC. 1997 and 2011 in separate counties. Tanya's head and limbs were removed and Tanya's head was never found. The killer did that to lessen the possibility of identification IMO. DNA wasn't a thing then in '97 was it or it was certainly new? Why wasn't the gold jewellery sold by the murderer?
Yeah I have some of that straight at least, different areas, years apart, jewelry with both. Jewelry does seem a bit odd especially with a toddler, there was some with both right? That to me makes it a bit more personal, as if someone who gave the baby and mom jewelry but certainly could be wrong, way wrong, no idea.

If you are any kind of smart criminal, you wouldn't sell or pawn it. Perp went out of the way to not have them connected as you say, her head missing and so on, I agree, nor identified.

Honestly torn if CB or not, just don't know enough. I can see him doing it and definitely think he changed up his MO and so on but in the same breath I could see it being personal...

If I had to go with GUT instinct, all the victims are his. However, it is impossible to say I guess that someone else may not have done one or two.

I don't have words for how glad they have names. Peaches invoked a totally different picture in my head than her actual picture does. I am trying to make a point of using the real names, long time coming.
 
There were hints last year I believe that they knew who she was. We were wondering. I'm bad at going back and searching, doesn't work well for me. But they yeah had some person they it seemed found through the genetic thing, I forget. I think we knew it was in the south somewhere. I can't recall, maybe Tierney gave a hint or two.

Regardless there were some hints and we thought her name would be coming, been a bit longer than would have thought though.
Well I haven't followed the thread since I last posted which looking back was in September- 33 pages ago, lol- and interestingly, it was in regard to Peaches and her daughter's identity.
Anyway, so based on the tattoo artists' recollection, it was years before she was in the military that she was living in NY and visiting an aunt and cousin in Connecticut...
 
Well I haven't followed the thread since I last posted which looking back was in September- 33 pages ago, lol- and interestingly, it was in regard to Peaches and her daughter's identity.
Anyway, so based on the tattoo artists' recollection, it was years before she was in the military that she was living in NY and visiting an aunt and cousin in Connecticut...
You kind of lost me there. Maybe it's just the wording.

She was in Brooklyn NY at the end with the baby/toddler right? Not years before? Or are you only referring to when she got the tattoo? She was in the military before living at the end in Brooklyn the way I understand it. I don't recall what the tattoo artist said.

A bit confused with this post.

Or are you mainly referring to CT and the tattoo?
 

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