SPENCER & MONIQUE TEPE: Columbus, Ohio dentist and wife murdered - 30 Dec 2025 *ARREST* (2 Viewers)
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GrandmaBear
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how he got it I'd say is the biggest question most want answers to, including myself. and i truly hope that answer comes or it will always bother me. there is the chance one of them opened the door to him but i'm not sold on that, not sold on anything really with regard to how he got in.
i don't think it is known that he was harassing them recently either, in fact, the one close person knew of nothing recent. Monique would talk of him but never name him of how bad he was in her past...
i know the name of the security system but can't think of it right now. never heard they had one until recently.
the thing is he can't have traveled there not knowing he might not have been able to get in. well i guess he could have but i mean he couldn't have known a door would be unlocked, the code, or so on. not to be sure anyhow...
i've heard now recently that he was in the area in the days before BUT this is not coming from LE and there have been soooo very many falsehoods in this case online.
some speculate maybe he waited until Spencer left for work or let the dog out and then forced him back in the house at gunpoint. i kind of doubt that but who knows...
to be honest a case hasn't taken me like this in some time. so many years since they were married, a brief marriage, no shared kids, a surgeon, living in different states. it is just so unusual and odd.
i agree if very determined he could bypass even the key code or security system, and I'm not 100 percent on the security system either, that's recent news that i'm not sure is verified quite honestly. it's kind of like Reiner, one has to take a lot with a grain of salt as the rumors are rife and things HAVE been gotten wrong.
Tresir
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They've matched his gun to crime.
Guess Who
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that is not what I am talking about in that post at all.
Tresir
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I thought you were on about the door being locked and then you said how did they know he did that. They matched his gun to the ballistics that killed the parents. So it follows he locked the door too. Whether before or after he killed the parents is what they don't know.
We also don't know that the kids weren't always locked in their bedroom every night. That is not unusual either for young kids.
GrandmaBear
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It sounds like the master bedroom (the parents' bedroom) was locked. I'd assume therefore that was likely after he murdered them.
I forget where I heard that but I know I linked it above or said where from.
There are a LOT of unconfirmed things in this case though being said.
GrandmaBear
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STS was on with 3 guests, 2 former LLE in Columbus, 1 from LA. One of the guests talked how Columbus has something called Shotstopper. Supposedly it picks up gun shots and notifies and can provide location or approximate location I guess. It wouldn't have picked up here because of the silencer. The LA guy said they don't use it in LA and that he didn't think it was a very good system for its price, doesn't stop crime, etc., etc.
All like us want to know how he got in... They talked of a signal jammer I gather you can buy on the internet if McKee really thought about and researched for this. Supposedly that will take out any security system and the door code... I'm not sold on this being how he gained entry but it is a thought...
It was a good show. Nothing new really just a good discussion.
Oh and not surprised how quickly this went to and from the Grand Jury. I gather Columbus seats GJs differently for their system. One actually thought it took longer than he'd expect. Lol.
Also said that the prosecutor does not believe in the DP and that she likely wouldn't seek it because of that. Said it could go federal though and they would seek the DP quite likely...
The fact 2 of them were very familiar with Columbus and its people was helpful imo.
I didn't grab the link but it was live just a short bit ago so the show would have been done later this afternoon if anyone wants to watch it.
All like us want to know how he got in... They talked of a signal jammer I gather you can buy on the internet if McKee really thought about and researched for this. Supposedly that will take out any security system and the door code... I'm not sold on this being how he gained entry but it is a thought...
It was a good show. Nothing new really just a good discussion.
Oh and not surprised how quickly this went to and from the Grand Jury. I gather Columbus seats GJs differently for their system. One actually thought it took longer than he'd expect. Lol.
Also said that the prosecutor does not believe in the DP and that she likely wouldn't seek it because of that. Said it could go federal though and they would seek the DP quite likely...
The fact 2 of them were very familiar with Columbus and its people was helpful imo.
I didn't grab the link but it was live just a short bit ago so the show would have been done later this afternoon if anyone wants to watch it.
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Guess Who
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GrandmaBear
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It depends from what I understood as to what type, and this was inside and more. They are the experts and deal with it and I'll take their word for it. They didn't seem to think in this case it likely would have. Or perhaps would not have.
I appreciate the link but not going to look. If you want to share a bit of what it says I'll believe it is in the link.
Regardless, it was interesting. Don't think I'd heard of such before. That I can recall anyhow. Columbus was apparently willing to spend the money on such a system. The opinions varied on it though like I said. The LA guy didn't feel it worth it. They were some good guests, I think it was a first for the one to be on there, or at least on that show.
Most out there tends to be the same old stuff but this was a fairly good discussion imo. I like lives, I can watch chats as they happen and jump in if I want to comment to a remark which I don't always do, but occasionally.
Can't always catch lives though and have to watch many later.
GrandmaBear
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How are your temps by the way? We are in below zeroes and heading for even further down the below zero meter.
GrandmaBear
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Yeah, when seeing charges talking of silencers, it made sense then why neighbors never heard anything. So far as we know anyhow. I did think it possible we just didn't hear from any who may have heard something but this makes more sense. Some speculated it's because maybe shots were normal around this neighborhood. Their particular block wasn't bad necessarily but the neighborhood around them supposedly was.
Guess Who
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If spotshotter didn't pick it up, it's more likely the system isn't set up for that area as well as other, more crime dense areas. Here, it wouldn't pick it up in my area, but it definitely would, even most inside cases, in areas where there are more sensors. Silencers don't change the tone they listen for, just the volume. It has more to do with how many sensors are set up. More than one sensor has to pick it up to triangulate where it came from.
GrandmaBear
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You probably know more than I. I just heard it on the show and the more expert types talking of it and I didn't read your link either. And I never looked it up. Full disclosure lol.
I wondered too if there aren't different systems or prices even where maybe some work better than others? Sounds as if it is very price prohibitive the guy from LA said. And what would it do if in an area shots are fired all of the time, do you know?
They talked of silencers though too in that show. Many are homemade and of course states differ on sales and whether one can have one and so on, of manufactured ones or any kind. Interesting was that they said now some firearms come with a threaded barrel so one can screw on a manufactured silencer that easily. I'm no firearm expert lol. I'm just discussing, and learning.
So you have spotshotter? In your city? and had heard of it prior?
In THIS case no one apparently did hear these shots, as far as is known, so I'd say Spotshotter wouldn't have picked it up either... They are very near a bad area so you'd think Columbus would have it there and I believe they do as two of the guests were pretty big time former Columbus LE, etc.
GrandmaBear
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Also we don't know what type McKee had. Only reason we think it at all is from grand jury indictments now, coupled with previous talk that no neighbors apparently heard the shots, etc.
RoundPeg
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I was just reading up on ShotSpotter. They place 15 - 20 sensors per square mile. Suppressors can be more difficult to trigger reports when they're used indoors or from moving cars.
The latest info would be under SoundThinking (name change).
GrandmaBear
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That's what they said, with a silencer and inside it very likely would not register in this case. And more they said about it but that was the most important bit I guess.
The LA guy did not think the system worth its price. Interesting show but as i said, nothing earth shattering or new really on it. However, I'd never heard of Shotspotter before. Or Soundthinking lol.
Guess Who
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My area uses it all the time and that's how they find exactly where shots were fired from. They pool them in the more troublesome areas, which makes total sense. I'm thinking their area either doesn't have them or not close enough to their area to be able to pinpoint or even pick up shots, no matter where they came from. That is how my neighborhood is. We aren't close enough for them to be able to triangulate and pinpoint the spot like they can in the problem areas where there are far more sensors. A shot fired from my area would trigger the system, but there are not enough to be able to tell EXACTLY where it came from like other areas. Think cell phone towers and how they used to only be able to triangulate where the phone is and if they didn't have enough towers, it would show a larger possible area than an area covered by many towers where they could vastly narrow down where it came from, sometimes to a particular address. Shotspotter can dial down to a very specific, pinpoint area if set up correctly with enough sensors.
GrandmaBear
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Makes sense. I got the impression all of Columbus has it and also throughout this case their area was called a bad area other than that one block or two. They didn't seem surprised though that Shotspotter didn't pick it up and I thought that was based on the silencer, inside, etc. However, we know LITTLE of this investigation so maybe it was picked up, no one can be sure. They DO have a very exact time of death... I thought maybe the shots triggered a security cam, that's before we saw the silencer charges...
I should add that a few "experts" out there aren't sure these Ohion statues way of wording the charges don't necessarily mean he had a silencer, they think it is a this of that or "or" situation. I don't. I think he had one, it just fits with more than a few things that didn't make sense.
Guess Who
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Health trackers would show the moment the heart stopped.
GrandmaBear
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Another thing debated. Speculated on. We don't know how it is they know of course. You know, their own cameras if they had sound (my cheap ones did) could have registered the shots. Neighbors might not have heard just because sleeping, etc. Who knows? Could be an Apple Watch. Could be anything. All we know is there is a very specific time of death they got from somewhere. In some cases it is just when they found victims, I think that is true in the cruise ship case. In this one I think it is likely actual time.
I'm of course not going to argue how they know as no one knows that answer. Or maybe by camera he was only there 5 minutes. Hard to say. they gave the window to the public of 2 to 5 a.m. Time of death is 3:52 a.m. I think. Cops certainly weren't there until far later in the morning so we KNOW it was not when they found them.
It's really hard to say what let them pinpoint it. Definitely could be some kind of health tracker or monitor. That is one possibility for sure. it's as up in the air though as how he got in.