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WI ELIJAH VUE: Missing from Two Rivers, WI - 20 Feb 2024 - Age 3 *Found Deceased* (20 Viewers)

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Amber Alert: Missing Two Rivers boy​

An Amber Alert has been issued for a missing 3-year-old boy in Two Rivers on Tuesday, Feb. 20.

Authorities said Elijah Vue's caregiver last saw him at 8 a.m. at his home Tuesday morning, near 39th and Mishicot in Twin Rivers. He was last seen wearing gray sweatpants, a long sleeve dark-colored shirt and red and green dinosaur slip-on shoes.

He is described as 3 feet tall and 45 pounds, with sandy hair and brown eyes. Officials said he has a birthmark on his left knee.

The Two Rivers Police Department said Vue is possibly carrying a red and white plaid blanket with him. Authorities said no family or associates are in the area.

Anyone with information is asked to contact police at 844-267-6648 or 920-686-7200.

There is currently no description of a suspect or a vehicle.


MEDIA - ELIJAH VUE: Missing from Two Rivers, WI - 20 Feb 2024 - Age 3
 
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Somehow; I missed when this was posted. All I have to say is "Jesse Vang, BE A MAN!"
Typical jailhouse lawyer type of thing imo. Once he's in prison, I wouldn't doubt WI will transfer him out of state. Yeah, he tried to force a little boy to be a man but he certainly isn't one himself.

I have no problem saying I hope he goes through he77 just as these monsters put that little boy through.

Vang apparently can't even dress himself. How hard is it to wear a jail uniform properly? What's that about I wonder. Not that I care. And contraband? Wonder what that was. He's the one who apparently was never taught rules yet he tried to beat such into a little boy. SICK.
 
Defense seeks to bar cadaver dog alerts in Jesse Vang's case tied to Elijah Vue's death
Police cadaver dogs investigating the death of Elijah Vue “hit” on locations at Jesse Vang's apartment and car, but his defense says that evidence should not be allowed at trial.


Multiple cadaver dogs were used to inspect several locations in the Elijah Vue investigation. At Vang’s apartment, K9 Moxy gave indication of human remains in multiple locations. Other dogs indicated Vang’s vehicle as a location recently containing a dead body.

Jensen argues that typically, the dogs are used to find evidence -- i.e. a body -- but since nothing was found in Vang's apartment, the state shouldn’t be allowed to use the dog’s "indication" at the apartment.

Normally, cadaver dogs are used to locate human remains or a dead body. Thus, the “credibility” of the dog’s “indication” is dependent upon whether or not a dead body is actually found in the area where the dog indicated. Here, though, the state takes this one step further: to use cadaver dogs to offer “opinions” as to whether or not a dead body had recently been present in any given area. In a very real sense, then, the state in this case is offering the dogs’ opinions that a dead body had been in a 1997 Nissan Altima, and also in Vang’s apartment. Since the police did not actually find a dead body in the Altima, and they also did not find a dead body in Vang’s apartment, the dog’s non-verbal assertion (i.e. the trained “indication”) that a dead body had recently been present is merely an opinion by the dog, not a confirmed fact, such as where the dog indicates and a body is actually found.. The dog’s opinion, then, ought to be subject to all of the same truth-testing devices as is a person’s opinion testimony,” Jensen wrote. “Because the dog does not speak English, it is impossible for defense counsel to cross-examine him concerning the dog’s opinion that a dead body had recently been in the area searched. Counsel cannot flesh out, through cross-examination, exactly why the dog thinks a dead body had been present in the area searched, as opposed to the odor having drifted in from some other location. Counsel cannot clear up an ambiguity in the dog’s indication. And, further, the dog cannot be asked whether he “indicated” just because he wanted a treat. In sum, in the absence of cross-examination, it is impossible to test the truthfulness of the dog’s indication.

The other evidentiary evidence motion relates to sand and gravel in the area where Vue’s body was located. According to reports, this sand and gravel did not appear to be consistent with the geologic material in the immediate area. However, a bucket and barrels near Vang’s home contained a mixture of sand and gravel used to treat icy sidewalks and roads -- which have some similarities to material found by Vue’s body.

Jensen questions the expert’s assessment and the findings, arguing they should not be allowed.

The evidence of the sand and gravel is probably relevant. That is, the fact that sand and gravel was found in the area of the skeletal remains is part of the panorama of evidence. Similarly, the fact that a bucket of similar-looking sand and gravel was found in a bucket near Vang’s house is also relevant. However, the jury can look at the evidence and form their own opinion as to what weight to give the evidence. It is unfair and unhelpful for the state to be allowed to present evidence that some “expert” has compared the materials and, to her, they seemed identical except for the lack of halite,” Jensen stated.

Citing the amount of pre-trial publicity, Jensen asked for a jury to be selected from outside Manitowoc County.

There is no reason to believe that, as time passes, the public interest and the level of media coverage will decrease. Rather, it appears that whenever there is any development in the case, significant or otherwise, the media reports on the development; and, in the process, recounts the history of the case to that point. Thus, once a trial date is set; as the trial date draws near, the intensity of the media coverage of the case will increase to the point of it becoming impossible to find twelve jurors in Manitowoc County who have not seen or heard dozens of articles concerning the case. As mentioned above, the media articles both recount the evidence the state purports to possess; and offer members of the public to post highly negative comments about Vang,” Jensen wrote.

He suggested either picking the jury in another county and holding the trial in Manitowoc, or just moving the entire trial elsewhere. After the jury is picked, he asked for the panel to be sequestered during the trial.

Prosecutors have until April 20 to reply to the motions. A motions hearing is scheduled for May 18 for the judge to hear arguments on these issues.
 
Defense seeks to bar cadaver dog alerts in Jesse Vang's case tied to Elijah Vue's death
Police cadaver dogs investigating the death of Elijah Vue “hit” on locations at Jesse Vang's apartment and car, but his defense says that evidence should not be allowed at trial.


Multiple cadaver dogs were used to inspect several locations in the Elijah Vue investigation. At Vang’s apartment, K9 Moxy gave indication of human remains in multiple locations. Other dogs indicated Vang’s vehicle as a location recently containing a dead body.

Jensen argues that typically, the dogs are used to find evidence -- i.e. a body -- but since nothing was found in Vang's apartment, the state shouldn’t be allowed to use the dog’s "indication" at the apartment.

Normally, cadaver dogs are used to locate human remains or a dead body. Thus, the “credibility” of the dog’s “indication” is dependent upon whether or not a dead body is actually found in the area where the dog indicated. Here, though, the state takes this one step further: to use cadaver dogs to offer “opinions” as to whether or not a dead body had recently been present in any given area. In a very real sense, then, the state in this case is offering the dogs’ opinions that a dead body had been in a 1997 Nissan Altima, and also in Vang’s apartment. Since the police did not actually find a dead body in the Altima, and they also did not find a dead body in Vang’s apartment, the dog’s non-verbal assertion (i.e. the trained “indication”) that a dead body had recently been present is merely an opinion by the dog, not a confirmed fact, such as where the dog indicates and a body is actually found.. The dog’s opinion, then, ought to be subject to all of the same truth-testing devices as is a person’s opinion testimony,” Jensen wrote. “Because the dog does not speak English, it is impossible for defense counsel to cross-examine him concerning the dog’s opinion that a dead body had recently been in the area searched. Counsel cannot flesh out, through cross-examination, exactly why the dog thinks a dead body had been present in the area searched, as opposed to the odor having drifted in from some other location. Counsel cannot clear up an ambiguity in the dog’s indication. And, further, the dog cannot be asked whether he “indicated” just because he wanted a treat. In sum, in the absence of cross-examination, it is impossible to test the truthfulness of the dog’s indication.

The other evidentiary evidence motion relates to sand and gravel in the area where Vue’s body was located. According to reports, this sand and gravel did not appear to be consistent with the geologic material in the immediate area. However, a bucket and barrels near Vang’s home contained a mixture of sand and gravel used to treat icy sidewalks and roads -- which have some similarities to material found by Vue’s body.

Jensen questions the expert’s assessment and the findings, arguing they should not be allowed.

The evidence of the sand and gravel is probably relevant. That is, the fact that sand and gravel was found in the area of the skeletal remains is part of the panorama of evidence. Similarly, the fact that a bucket of similar-looking sand and gravel was found in a bucket near Vang’s house is also relevant. However, the jury can look at the evidence and form their own opinion as to what weight to give the evidence. It is unfair and unhelpful for the state to be allowed to present evidence that some “expert” has compared the materials and, to her, they seemed identical except for the lack of halite,” Jensen stated.

Citing the amount of pre-trial publicity, Jensen asked for a jury to be selected from outside Manitowoc County.

There is no reason to believe that, as time passes, the public interest and the level of media coverage will decrease. Rather, it appears that whenever there is any development in the case, significant or otherwise, the media reports on the development; and, in the process, recounts the history of the case to that point. Thus, once a trial date is set; as the trial date draws near, the intensity of the media coverage of the case will increase to the point of it becoming impossible to find twelve jurors in Manitowoc County who have not seen or heard dozens of articles concerning the case. As mentioned above, the media articles both recount the evidence the state purports to possess; and offer members of the public to post highly negative comments about Vang,” Jensen wrote.

He suggested either picking the jury in another county and holding the trial in Manitowoc, or just moving the entire trial elsewhere. After the jury is picked, he asked for the panel to be sequestered during the trial.

Prosecutors have until April 20 to reply to the motions. A motions hearing is scheduled for May 18 for the judge to hear arguments on these issues.
The dog is classed as a police officer so it's evidence should be allowed hopefully.
 
Man charged in Elijah Vue's death wants different trial location or jury from other county
Prosecutors do not plan to use cadaver dog evidence at trials for the death of three-year-old Elijah Vue, according to a court filing Monday, but oppose one of the suspect's requests for a change of venue for his trial.


Vang's attorney had filed a motion last month seeking to bar evidence that police cadaver dogs “hit” on locations at Vang's apartment and car. Manitowoc County District Attorney Jacalyn LaBre filed a letter with the court Monday stating she has no intention of using such evidence.

“The State does not intend to introduce evidence of cadaver dog indications. The only mention of them may be that they were a tool used like many others in the investigation of this case. We do not anticipate admitting any of the results of the cadaver dogs. Therefore, it is not necessary to have a hearing on this motion,” LaBre wrote.

Vang's attorney also asked for a change of venue, either by holding his trial somewhere else in the state or bringing in a jury from another county. In her reply, LaBre asked the court to deny the motion.

Based on federal and state case law, the defendant has not met the high bar to warrant a change of venue. This Court can ensure a fair and impartial jury through voir dire before resorting to the drastic remedy of ordering a change of venue and sequestration of the jurors. For these reasons, the state requests that the court deny the defense’s request for change of venue and sequestration.
 
Glad the prosecutors don't need the cadaver dog evidence for the trial. As for the change of venue, that just costs taxpayers more money in the long run. The facts should still be the facts.

@Prairiewind , do you have thoughts on changes of venue?
 
Glad the prosecutors don't need the cadaver dog evidence for the trial. As for the change of venue, that just costs taxpayers more money in the long run. The facts should still be the facts.

@Prairiewind , do you have thoughts on changes of venue?
Change of Venue has become a big deal lately. I guess i have different feelings. With media the way it is now and so available, simply moving to a different county may not make a difference, and I don't like the idea of just thinking you can shop for a different jury pool. I haven't really looked at the arguments here, but may if i get time.
 
Change of Venue has become a big deal lately. I guess i have different feelings. With media the way it is now and so available, simply moving to a different county may not make a difference, and I don't like the idea of just thinking you can shop for a different jury pool. I haven't really looked at the arguments here, but may if i get time.
Sounds like we agree, especially when it comes to the media being available everywhere.
 

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