That's an interesting topic. Why do these Doctors and Nurses kill?
It wasn't out of mercy. But just killing. Why?.I don't put "Dr. Kevorkian" in this category. I truly feel he thought he was giving them mercy and had no malice.
I don't think it has anything to do with money at all. I don't see how it could. It cost money to keep them alive. It is the appeals which is ridiculous. Some end up dying of natural causes before death can be carried out. Their victims didn't get appeals. Really makes me angry.
Scary. It doesn't surprise me though, what does surprise me is that another staff member or two doesn't raise the alarm, even if they have to do it anonymously. We think of most in the medical profession as being ethical... I wonder where that last happened anywhere? Because I would like to think nowadays if that happened, with the internet, we'd all help get it out there in the open if there was a hint of such a thing, kind of like what has happened with Fort Hood, calling attention to it.There are nurses that will kill patients and when they're found out they're fired, but the cops aren't called. Hospitals don't like bad press. So the nurses go on to another hospital and the former hospital can only confirm their dates of employment. I've seen at least two shows about this. There is a character on this seasons Fargo that is one of those.
I agree. It's a controversial subject though, some hang onto hope well past where others would and do not want a plug to be pulled and others do.It's odd to me that as pet owners we'll put our pets down when life becomes to painful and difficult for them. Then when we get into a situation like that it's deemed murder. When they take someone off life support they'll remove the feeding tube, IIRC. Then they just starve to death. Just put them out of their misery.
Wrongful convictions are horrid whether the death penalty or someone losing their freedom for years in prison and it is downright awful that it happens.It costs more to put someone to death than incarcerate them for years. One thing that's good about the DP is that the case is gone over with a fine toothed comb. Prisoners sentenced to life don't get the same scrutiny.
The death penalty can also be used as a bargaining chip to help a perp decide to plead guilty and give up where the bodies are.
Unfortunately, it's been applied to blacks much more than whites. There have been over two dozen cases where it's been proven they got the wrong guy after he was dead. When DNA became widely available A LOT of death row inmates and other prisoners were set free.
Overall, I'm conflicted. If Jodi Arias had been given the death penalty I wouldn't lose any sleep.
Personally, I have no sympathy for them at that point. They seem to all know what they're doing is wrong, or they wouldn't cover it up. I feel horrible for their families! Just horrible. The families of the murdered and the serial killer.Anyone else have these feelings/ thoughts?
I find it strange and interesting that there are killers who I find myself empathizing with, feeling sorry for, or in the least, I don't see them as being evil and sinister, although they have done extremely sinister acts. Two that come to mind are Ed Gein and Jeffrey Dahmer.
The Body Snatcher / "The Plainfeild Ghoul"
The case of Ed Gein is an interesting one to discuss. He made clothing, furniture, kitchenware, lots of 'stuff', out of human skin and bones! To name a few for those who may be unfamiliar with the case, he had a nipple belt, a box full of vulva's, a skin chair, and a body (skin) suit made out from a woman's corpse!!
He confessed killing two women Mary Hogan in 1954, and Bernice Worden in 1957, however, it was imamissable in court because the sheriff at the time used excessive force to coerce the confession. He slammed Ed's head and face into a brick wall. He was also suspected suspected of killing his brother and mother.
"The Milwaukee Cannibal"
The case of Jeffrey Dahmer is interesting because he killed out of admiration rather than abhorance. Many times with serial killers we see (1) a deep seeded hate or disgust for their victims (2) a need to dominate or control (3) and/or a sexual desire. While the last two could be attributed to Dahmer's M.O., what in the world created the desire for him to eat them!?!? I've heard his explanation, but it still doesn't satisfy my curiosity.
I curious to hear you'lls thoughts before I elaborate further.
Edward Gein | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers
Murderpedia, the free online encyclopedic dictionary of murderers. The largest database about serial killers, mass murderers and spree killers around the worldmurderpedia.org
Jeffrey Dahmer | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers
Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer, also known as "The Milkwaukee Cannibal", was an American serial killer who murdered 17 men ans boys between 1978 and 1991.murderpedia.org
You sure put out a thought that is discussion worthy and not a typical feeling. I do get what you mean though. They are a bit different than some other serial killers.Anyone else have these feelings/ thoughts?
I find it strange and interesting that there are killers who I find myself empathizing with, feeling sorry for, or in the least, I don't see them as being evil and sinister, although they have done extremely sinister acts. Two that come to mind are Ed Gein and Jeffrey Dahmer.
The Body Snatcher / "The Plainfeild Ghoul"
The case of Ed Gein is an interesting one to discuss. He made clothing, furniture, kitchenware, lots of 'stuff', out of human skin and bones! To name a few for those who may be unfamiliar with the case, he had a nipple belt, a box full of vulva's, a skin chair, and a body (skin) suit made out from a woman's corpse!!
He confessed killing two women Mary Hogan in 1954, and Bernice Worden in 1957, however, it was imamissable in court because the sheriff at the time used excessive force to coerce the confession. He slammed Ed's head and face into a brick wall. He was also suspected suspected of killing his brother and mother.
"The Milwaukee Cannibal"
The case of Jeffrey Dahmer is interesting because he killed out of admiration rather than abhorance. Many times with serial killers we see (1) a deep seeded hate or disgust for their victims (2) a need to dominate or control (3) and/or a sexual desire. While the last two could be attributed to Dahmer's M.O., what in the world created the desire for him to eat them!?!? I've heard his explanation, but it still doesn't satisfy my curiosity.
I curious to hear you'lls thoughts before I elaborate further.
Edward Gein | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers
Murderpedia, the free online encyclopedic dictionary of murderers. The largest database about serial killers, mass murderers and spree killers around the worldmurderpedia.org
Jeffrey Dahmer | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers
Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer, also known as "The Milkwaukee Cannibal", was an American serial killer who murdered 17 men ans boys between 1978 and 1991.murderpedia.org
I have sympathy for the children that they were- many were badly abused. But that's where it ends. As adults, they make their own choices, and must be held accountable for them.Personally, I have no sympathy for them at that point. They seem to all know what they're doing is wrong, or they wouldn't cover it up. I feel horrible for their families! Just horrible. The families of the murdered and the serial killer.
I appreciate what you're saying, believe me. I do believe that God loves them as much as He loves me, though I do not understand it.
That STILL infuriates me!It still haunts me how the one got away and the police actually sent him back to Dahmer...
top- 3rd from left- Gary RidgewayI'm guessing Kimster posted the pictures of Serial Killers at the top of the post. Challenge. Can you name them?.
Ditto!That STILL infuriates me!
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this is the 14 year old that the cops sent back into Dahmer's
There is a lot out there about big $$ in prison systems and some are private too (which was actually news to me). Yes, someone pays for it all, probably us little guys... Others profit. Imo. We may not agree go figureLol.
Of course it does, that is not the way I meant it.
I don't want to sidetrack the thread but I mean it a much different sense than the outright obvious, of course it costs more to house them. I don't have time to look further and this is not the ideal article but there is profit in the prison system.
I have seen new jails voted for and paid for by telling people the extra beds will bring income from other areas who can't house their own prisoners and they pay for it. Just one example of many. Just like a full motel, a full jail brings more profit in some cases. And as it says in this article, if no competition in the area, a monopoly can arise and prices unchecked.
Not trying to argue, I am just looking at it from a few different perspectives. Not to mention the government money depending on the type of facility. Some profit and some pay as in everything I guess is more my point.
I have read better articles than this but it touches on some of it...
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Private Prisons
Although the cost of keeping prisoners alive is much higher than just using the death penalty, private prisons are interested in keeping the death penalty off of the streets. Private prisons have a...deathpenaltyenglish101.weebly.com
Wow! At least today we have DNA and the likelihood of a wrong conviction is very slim. But they better have it or other irrefutable evidence.