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Discussion on Serial Killers, Spree Killers, Mass Killers, And single event killers.

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To start. I have always found Serial Killers fascinating. What makes them do what they do?. I know I am not the only one. This is the place to talk about it. I'll start. Who do you find the most fascinating and why?.
 
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There really was no excuse for how many times cops did not get Dahmer or look into things or how close it was.

I honestly have to wonder about the southern part of our state sometimes. I have friends in Milwaukee but the "better" part, and I don't mean that in a snobbish way but they differentiate where they live from main Milwaukee probably for good reason. There have been cases since I have been on here that I just can't get over but they have a population I think that is entirely different than some areas and big city. Close enough to Chicago and more too.

And that is crimes nowadays--Dahmer has been some years back and not an impressive police job imo. I have Netflix but not sure I will get a chance to watch it for some time.
When you can, I recommend it.
 
I'm watching something on ID called BTK: The taunting (part 2) I missed part one and came in late on this one. It talks about the weeks before he was arrested. It's fascinating. Hopefully, I'll be able to see both of them again sometime.
If it's the one I am thinking about, It's 3 parts and new. I thought it was good. I can't stand his arrogance and shrug it off attitude when speaking of his crimes. His apology in court was so cold is was obviously not a teal apology. Like most serial killers, They don't feel guilt for what they've done.
 
I'm watching a show on Oxygen called: Serial Killer Capital: Baton Rouge.

It's about Baton Rouge realizing they have a serial killer. DNA was in its infancy when it began in the late nineties. They finally capture the dude, with DNA years later, and put him behind bars. They then realize that there are murders that don't match the guy they caught. They realize they actually had two serial killers on the prowl. They'd caught one, but the other one was still out there.

 
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I'm watching a show on Oxygen called: Serial Killer Capital: Baton Rouge.

It's about Baton Rouge realizing they have a serial killer. DNA was in its infancy when it began in the late nineties. They finally capture the dude, with DNA years later, and put him behind bars. They then realize that there are murders that don't match the guy they caught. They realize they actually had two serial killers on the prowl. They'd caught one, but the other one was still out there.

The first guys name was: Derrick Todd Lee
Guy two: Sean Vincent Gillis.
 
Well, that's not where it ends. After those arrests they realize they have a third serial killer working in the area.

That guy is: Jeffery Lee Guillory
 
I'm watching a show on Oxygen called: Serial Killer Capital: Baton Rouge.

It's about Baton Rouge realizing they have a serial killer. DNA was in its infancy when it began in the late nineties. They finally capture the dude, with DNA years later, and put him behind bars. They then realize that there are murders that don't match the guy they caught. They realize they actually had two serial killers on the prowl. They'd caught one, but the other one was still out there.

Yeah. I watched that. Very scary when you find out you have a serial killer out there. And then find out there's two separate killers. Oh good. A twofer. It's very rare of serial killers killing in the same areas as another killer. They want their notoriety. And the victims were treated like garbage.
 
The first guys name was: Derrick Todd Lee
Guy two: Sean Vincent Gillis.
Yep. Lee was a sicko. Met his absolute judgment. Gillis, IMO even more of a sicko. And lived with a woman for years. And she had no idea like alot of significant others. She described him as "A teddy bear". Ugh. Not so much. His murder history has a few really long cooling off periods. Years. Then sometimes a few days. Which makes me wonder if he has more victims than tied too. IMO It's very likely. A cooling off period twice of 5 yrs?. However, Gary Ridgeway did the long cooling off period when he was in a good marriage. She had no idea. "Gillis". It was stress. Well then O.K. There would be alot of dead people around here if I wanted to use that excuse. They ALL have them. They all wanted too. Period. They are all incapable of understanding the damage they have done. Most of them have no real remorse. Their statements are just words. Family members confronting them may make them feel better. I understand that. But the perpetrator usually has no reaction. Won't even look at who's speaking. That's why I say the death penalty is the way to go with them. I've seen most of them want to save themselves. Bundy didn’t want to die. And he was most deserving. Coward. And more was found out about his deviant after his death.
 
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Yep. Lee was a sicko. Met his absolute judgment. Gillis, IMO even more of a sicko. And lived with a woman for years. And she had no idea like alot of significant others. She described him as "A teddy bear". Ugh. Not so much. His murder history has a few really long cooling off periods. Years. Then sometimes a few days. Which makes me wonder if he has more victims than tied too. IMO It's very likely. A cooling off period twice of 5 yrs?. However, Gary Ridgeway did the long cooling off period when he was in a good marriage. She had no idea. "Gillis". It was stress. Well then O.K. There would be alot of dead people around here if I wanted to use that excuse. They ALL have them. They all wanted too. Period. They are all incapable of understanding the damage they have done. Most of them have no real remorse. Their statements are just words. Family members confronting them may make them feel better. I understand that. But the perpetrator usually has no reaction. Won't even look at who's speaking. That's why I say the death penalty is the way to go with them. I've seen most of them want to save themselves. Bundy didn’t want to die. And he was most deserving. Coward. And more was found out about his deviant after his death.

BTK slowed down and eventually stopped after having kids. The Golden State Killer did the same thing. He put two daughters through medical school.
 
BTK slowed down and eventually stopped after having kids. The Golden State Killer did the same thing. He put two daughters through medical school.
I feel sorry for his daughters. And BTK's daughter and son. She's been very outspoken about it. To see the evil their fathers really are.
 

Author: Kim Chaney
Published: 4:46 PM CST January 9, 2023
Updated: 10:02 AM CST January 10, 2023

MEMPHIS, Tenn. — Damien Echols of the West Memphis Three filed an appeal Monday, Jan. 7, 2023, asking the Arkansas Supreme Court to reverse a Crittenden County Circuit Court decision denying forensic testing on his behalf.

Attorneys for Echols have been pushing to use new technology to test certain DNA evidence which they said “might establish his innocence and identify the real killer(s).”

The Crittenden County Circuit Court dismissed the petition originally for lack of jurisdiction, according to Echols’ lawyers. Judge Tonya Alexander denied Damien Echols' Habeas Corpus petition in June 2022 because she said that under Arkansas law, it's only available to someone who is currently in state custody. The appeal asks the Arkansas Supreme Court to order a full hearing on the request for new testing.

Echols, Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley were convicted in 1994 of murdering three 8-year-old boys, Stevie Branch, Michael Moore, and Chris Byers. Echols spent 18 years on death row, while Baldwin and Misskelley received life sentences. The three were released from prison in 2011 on what’s called an Alford plea, after new forensic evidence was presented as part of the case.
 

Author: Kim Chaney
Published: 4:46 PM CST January 9, 2023
Updated: 10:02 AM CST January 10, 2023

MEMPHIS, Tenn. — Damien Echols of the West Memphis Three filed an appeal Monday, Jan. 7, 2023, asking the Arkansas Supreme Court to reverse a Crittenden County Circuit Court decision denying forensic testing on his behalf.

Attorneys for Echols have been pushing to use new technology to test certain DNA evidence which they said “might establish his innocence and identify the real killer(s).”

The Crittenden County Circuit Court dismissed the petition originally for lack of jurisdiction, according to Echols’ lawyers. Judge Tonya Alexander denied Damien Echols' Habeas Corpus petition in June 2022 because she said that under Arkansas law, it's only available to someone who is currently in state custody. The appeal asks the Arkansas Supreme Court to order a full hearing on the request for new testing.

Echols, Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley were convicted in 1994 of murdering three 8-year-old boys, Stevie Branch, Michael Moore, and Chris Byers. Echols spent 18 years on death row, while Baldwin and Misskelley received life sentences. The three were released from prison in 2011 on what’s called an Alford plea, after new forensic evidence was presented as part of the case.

BAH!!! Who cares that theres a guy who killed three children out there. :mad:
 

Author: Kim Chaney
Published: 4:46 PM CST January 9, 2023
Updated: 10:02 AM CST January 10, 2023

MEMPHIS, Tenn. — Damien Echols of the West Memphis Three filed an appeal Monday, Jan. 7, 2023, asking the Arkansas Supreme Court to reverse a Crittenden County Circuit Court decision denying forensic testing on his behalf.

Attorneys for Echols have been pushing to use new technology to test certain DNA evidence which they said “might establish his innocence and identify the real killer(s).”

The Crittenden County Circuit Court dismissed the petition originally for lack of jurisdiction, according to Echols’ lawyers. Judge Tonya Alexander denied Damien Echols' Habeas Corpus petition in June 2022 because she said that under Arkansas law, it's only available to someone who is currently in state custody. The appeal asks the Arkansas Supreme Court to order a full hearing on the request for new testing.

Echols, Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley were convicted in 1994 of murdering three 8-year-old boys, Stevie Branch, Michael Moore, and Chris Byers. Echols spent 18 years on death row, while Baldwin and Misskelley received life sentences. The three were released from prison in 2011 on what’s called an Alford plea, after new forensic evidence was presented as part of the case.
I've seen all 3 "Paradise Lost" Documentaries. This case is so clouded and twisted in so many directions it's ridiculous. 1994. Wow. The boys would be 36ish now. I think Terry Hobbs is probably the guilty one. Pam Hobbs is deceased. The boy was hers, But not Terry's. So many people have died, And suspiciously that were linked closely with this case. Mark Byers IMO didn't do it. But Melissa died under suspicious circumstances. A drug overdose, But Mark's claims don't match. Time, Circumstances. He's a liar no doubt. He tries to act for the camera. He is a very bad liar and very bad actor.
 
Linda on the “it’s a crime” Vlog said today that there are more serial killers born in the month of November than any other month. I wonder where she got that statistic?
 
Dean Corll
The Candy Man Killer
Houston serial killer early 70s
at least 27 victims



... Within a week, the remains of 27 young males had been found, a couple of them as young as thirteen, one as old as twenty. The New York Times quickly labeled the killings “the largest multiple murder case in United States history”—the phrase “serial killer” had not yet been coined—surpassing the 13 women choked to death by the Boston Strangler in the early sixties, the 16 people shot by Charles Whitman in 1966 from the Tower at the University of Texas, and the 25 itinerant workers killed by Juan Corona in California just two years earlier. Soon reporters began flying to Houston from every corner of the United States. A few arrived from as far away as Japan and Pakistan. Even Truman Capote, hoping to revive his floundering career ...



 
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I am rewatching the "Paradise Lost" 1, 2 and 3 parts. I myself thought after the 1st installment they were guilty. I saw it the night it premiered. After that, HBO would not show it during the day. It was on the schedule for playing during the day. They must have gotten some irate parents. Well they should have been in school. You could block channels. So channels, Stations etc. Have to babysit.
 
I am rewatching the "Paradise Lost" 1, 2 and 3 parts. I myself thought after the 1st installment they were guilty. I saw it the night it premiered. After that, HBO would not show it during the day. It was on the schedule for playing during the day. They must have gotten some irate parents. Well they should have been in school. You could block channels. So channels, Stations etc. Have to babysit.

A friend and I went to a screening of the first one at the Little Theater here. They had one of the directors talking about it afterwards.
 

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