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Discussion on Serial Killers, Spree Killers, Mass Killers, And single event killers.

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To start. I have always found Serial Killers fascinating. What makes them do what they do?. I know I am not the only one. This is the place to talk about it. I'll start. Who do you find the most fascinating and why?.
 
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The way they caught him, IIRC, is that someone found the body of his latest kill just a day or so after he'd killed her. They then put surveillance on the bridge over the body and caught him taking a leak over the edge.

The way they got him to confess is one of the cops interrogating him said: I'd hate to think your girlfriend was involved in this. That's when he cracked and confessed.

He told them where bodies were left. He rode around with them while they looked at each place. It was the middle of winter when they caught him and they couldn't find one of the bodies he told them was out there. So one of the cops comes back to the car and tells him they can't find the body. He gets out of the car and goes to the stream and points the flashlight down right onto her face under ice.
 
Cousin Dupree said:
The way they caught him, IIRC, is that someone found the body of his latest kill just a day or so after he'd killed her. They then put surveillance on the bridge over the body and caught him taking a leak over the edge.

The way they got him to confess is one of the cops interrogating him said: I'd hate to think your girlfriend was involved in this. That's when he cracked and confessed.

He told them where bodies were left. He rode around with them while they looked at each place. It was the middle of winter when they caught him and they couldn't find one of the bodies he told them was out there. So one of the cops comes back to the car and tells him they can't find the body. He gets out of the car and goes to the stream and points the flashlight down right onto her face under ice.
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Yeah the leak over the edge and last kill was in Wiki.

So he cared about his gf? Who could ever understand the minds of people like this? I sure can't. They seem totally cold but then... Or was he just worried about if they talked to her...?

That is terrible, the flashlight right onto the face. It's also a pretty clear detailed memory of where each was...
 
I have not seen this and have no comment on whether I believe it or not until I do, but it mentions two serial killers related to this motel and one is of course Ramirez so I am posting it here...

Sounds like an interesting show to see/watch...

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Ghost Adventures' Zak Bagans Faced 'Extremely Terrifying' Poltergeist Activity at Cecil Hotel

The <em>Ghost Adventures</em> team investigated the infamous Los Angeles hotel for a two-hour special premiering on Discovery+
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I watched an episode of Web of Lies on ID. A 17 year old kid set up a Facebook account using the picture of an extremely good looking young woman. He got some guy to believe it was a real account and then met him and killed him. (abbreviated story) The police confiscated his computer and found he'd tried to use this profile to lure in others. The cops believe he was a serial killer in waiting. He was convicted and will never see the light of day again. That's one serial killer stopped at the first one, if you believe the police theory. I do.

An interesting side note is that the victims father had a warrant for his arrest on a thirty year old murder charge. He was arrested during his son's murder investigation.
 
Cousin Dupree said:
I watched an episode of Web of Lies on ID. A 17 year old kid set up a Facebook account using the picture of an extremely good looking young woman. He got some guy to believe it was a real account and then met him and killed him. (abbreviated story) The police confiscated his computer and found he'd tried to use this profile to lure in others. The cops believe he was a serial killer in waiting. He was convicted and will never see the light of day again. That's one serial killer stopped at the first one, if you believe the police theory. I do.

An interesting side note is that the victims father had a warrant for his arrest on a thirty year old murder charge. He was arrested during his son's murder investigation.
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Very interesting side note.

As to the budding serial killer, it sure sounds like he would have become one... Glad his plans were nipped in the bud!
 
Cousin Dupree said:
About thirty years ago Rochester had a serial killer named Arthur Shawcross. I'll tell more about him later. He had killed two children in Watertown(?) New York and was let out of prison after his sentence was served. NYS Department of Corrections attempted to settle him in one town after another and each town telling them Uh-No. They are required by law to tell a community when they relocate a felon, IIRC. So finally they dumped him in Rochester and didn't tell anyone about it.

So a lot of prostitutes started being found dead around the city. The police caught on to there being a serial killer around, but nobody had told them Shawcross was living here. His crime was different, but he would have been on the police radar I'm sure.

I have to take out the trash and go to Wegmans, I'll continue on about him later.
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Yes. He killed a boy and a girl. He did not serve his full sentence. What else is new. Then he started killing Women in Rochester. Primarily prostitutes. He did some very sick things. He found out when she was an adult he had a daughter. IIRC she was conceived when he was in Vietnam. He didn't see combat. But made up stories. He was a clerk. She knew what he did. She chose to pursue the relationship. Including getting her kids close to their grandfather. They sent him their class artwork, Letters. I saw the Documentary about this. I believe it was 2008. The same year he died.
 
I just watched a new documentary about Richard Ramirez "The Night Stalker". It's on Netflix. 4 parts called "Night Stalker". It is detailed and really focuses on the victims. The graphic details yes. But how certain evidence tied the crimes together because he was all over the place. And his MO was really unlike others. It is being presented mainly by the 2 officers on the case. It did make me very angry. He was less than sewage.
 
Someone on YouTube said "At least on Death Row they get Conjugal visits". I told them and nicely that that is not or ever allowed on Death Row. They said "Look it up Stupid!". I told them to look it up because they were stupid. DEYYY!!! And why would that be good anyway?. They should be allowed this?. Moron. Ted Bundy did father a daughter on Death Row because a scumbag guard allowed it in the visiting area hidden from view by some vending machines. This is stated by his ex wife Carol. She divorced him when he confessed to her he did it. Really?.
 
Mel70 said:
I just watched a new documentary about Richard Ramirez "The Night Stalker". It's on Netflix. 4 parts called "Night Stalker". It is detailed and really focuses on the victims. The graphic details yes. But how certain evidence tied the crimes together because he was all over the place. And his MO was really unlike others. It is being presented mainly by the 2 officers on the case. It did make me very angry. He was less than sewage.
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I was living in that area when he was prowling. I was really scared!
 
Kimster said:
I was living in that area when he was prowling. I was really scared!
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I would be too. He preyed on older people. Couples. Men. Women. Would abduct kids as a solitary crime. Molest them and release them. He didn't kill any of the children. Didn't matter their race, Age. He was all over L.A. He would steal cars. So always on the move. Used guns, Knives, ligature, Manual strangulation, Objects to beat, His shoe. No one else had that kind of MO.
 
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