Who is the LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER? *ARREST JULY 2023*

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The Long Island serial killer (also referred to as LISK, the Gilgo Beach Killer or the Craigslist Ripper) is an unidentified suspected serial killer who is believed to have murdered 10 to 16 people over a period of nearly 20 years.

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[Tresir]

As we have discussed the distances from Massapequa to the dump sites I thought i would research the distances and list them.

(NOTE The distances are all east of Massepequa except for Ocean Parkway, which is west.)

These are three that he has not been charged with so far.
Massepequa to
Oak Beach (Shannon) 22 miles
Tobay/Fire Island (Karen) 27 miles
Jones Beach (Tanya) 15 miles.

These are the seven he has been charged with at present.

Massepequa to
Gilgo (Melissa, Megan, Amber, Maureen) 17 miles
Ocean Parkway (Jessica, Valerie ) 35 miles West.
North Sea (Sandra ) 64 miles

Bringing this forward to note that LE have a suspect in custody ( as noted in article in post 3320 above ) regarding Tanya Rush and her baby daughter, Tatiana Dykes.

So only Shannon and Karen remain to be resolved now.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Arrest made after DNA links Ruskin man to 1997 deaths of mother, daughter found at Gilgo Beach

Andrew Dykes, 66, was arrested Wednesday in Ruskin.

www.fox13news.com

Tanya Jackson and her daughter might be connected to the larger Gilgo Beach homicide investigation.
Detectives say the close proximity of the two crime scenes raised concerns early on, but it took decades of advances in DNA technology to identify the victims and move the case forward.

What's next:​

Andrew Dykes made his first appearance in a Hillsborough County courtroom Thursday. During that hearing, he signed a transfer agreement and is expected to be extradited to New York to face murder charges.
The Source: This article is based on information released by Nassau County homicide detectives, court records from Hillsborough County and statements from law enforcement following the April DNA identification of Tanya and Tatiana.

So they are saying it seems now that it is connected to their murders and is about DNA, for one thing.

 

[Tresir]

Josh and Joe discussing this latest arrest. 49 minutes.

 

[Tresir]

They were talking about the dismemberment and dispersal of the remains in that video anď were trying to get their heads around the LISK similarities. There was a LISK killing and dismemberment discovery in '95, (Vergata only identified recently) so this Dykes perp could have got the dismemberment and dispersal of remains idea from that, if it was reported then or known about locally.

Seems they were both in the military with him being married and 20 odd years older than her.

 

[Tresir]

Man charged nearly 30 years after murder of ‘Peaches,’ whose remains were found near Gilgo Beach

Tania Denise Jackson, once known as "Peaches," was identified along with her daughter Tatiana, who was known as Baby Doe at the time, in a case long linked to the Gilgo Beach investigation.

www.fox5ny.com

 

[GrandmaBear]

They were talking about the dismemberment and dispersal of the remains in that video anď were trying to get their heads around the LISK similarities. There was a LISK killing and dismemberment discovery in '95, (Vergata only identified recently) so this Dykes perp could have got the dismemberment and dispersal of remains idea from that, if it was reported then or known about locally.

Seems they were both in the military with him being married and 20 odd years older than her.

I was thinking how perhaps "tickled" CB/RH got when this was reported on back when, probably thinking with glee how it would confuse authorities as to the perp. Or maybe he was upset that anyone dared to think they could be like him. Nah, his ego actually probably was fed that anyone would copycat him.

 

[Tresir]

Here's another MSM link. Tanya and Tatiana need their own thread probably. Tatiana's discovery and DNA led to her father. The baby solved her own murder. Helped by Shannon Gilbert of course.

Florida man charged with murders once linked to Gilgo Beach killings

The case has long been linked to the murder investigations centered on Long Island, New York

www.independent.co.uk

From the link-

Dykes is believed to be the biological father of the child.
The deaths of Jackson and Tatiana have been shrouded in mystery since Jackson’s torso was discovered in June 1997, stuffed inside a green Rubbermaid container left in a wooded section of Hempstead Lake State Park on Long Island. She had been dismembered and decapitated.
Her daughter’s remains were found off Ocean Parkway in April 2011, near several victims in the Gilgo Beach murders investigation, prompting years of speculation that the mother and daughter were tied to that case.

 

[Regina]

Wow, good news!
While the two cases were similar in some ways, it was the ways they were different that caused me to doubt it was the same perp.

 

[Tresir]

I was thinking how perhaps "tickled" CB/RH got when this was reported on back when, probably thinking with glee how it would confuse authorities as to the perp. Or maybe he was upset that anyone dared to think they could be like him. Nah, his ego actually probably was fed that anyone would copycat him.

I guess they may be in jail together and compare notes. Which county will get him? Tatiana was found in 2010 in Suffolk but Tanya in June '97 was found in Nassau I think, wasn't she?

 

[GrandmaBear]

I guess they may be in jail together and compare notes. Which county will get him? Tatiana was found in 2010 in Suffolk but Tanya in June '97 was found in Nassau I think, wasn't she?

i'd hope they'd try to keep them apart in separate counties. I think they just did that in Parks, he is in one county and her mom/his wife in a neighboring county.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I don't care that this wasn't CB, it is just awesome that mom and baby will see justice and justice by the right person. CB's troubles are still as bad as they were for those he killed.

It is wonderful all these victims and their families are starting to see both some answers and justice. This is a win imo. This arrest. Just as their identification was.

 

[Regina]

Hopefully, "Cherries" will be identified soon.
As I understand it, only one victim whose remains were recovered from Ocean Pkwy (Asian male) is yet to be identified.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Hopefully, "Cherries" will be identified soon.
As I understand it, only one victim whose remains were recovered from Ocean Pkwy (Asian male) is yet to be identified.

My leaning is that CB killed the Asian male. I am basing that on his web searches and more. I wonder though if they will ever learn his identity since they say not that many participate in the genealogical thing. So we may never know sadly.

I am prepared to be wrong though on the perp being CB.

 

[GrandmaBear]

A live with the Sarge coming up.

 

[Regina]

My leaning is that CB killed the Asian male. I am basing that on his web searches and more. I wonder though if they will ever learn his identity since they say not that many participate in the genealogical thing. So we may never know sadly.

I am prepared to be wrong though on the perp being CB.

That last remark has me thinking of cases where neither of us are prepared to be wrong, lol!
Re the LISK case, I wasn't expecting Castillo's case would be linked- much less charged, but re the Asian male, I'm highly doubting it's the same perp, and same re Cherrie's case.
Btw, Cherrie's case is similar to that of Tanya Rush, although I don't recall having discussed her case.

Homicide Victim: Rush, Tanya

troopers.ny.gov

 

[GrandmaBear]

That last remark has me thinking of cases where neither of us are prepared to be wrong, lol!
Re the LISK case, I wasn't expecting Castillo's case would be linked- much less charged, but re the Asian male, I'm highly doubting it's the same perp, and same re Cherrie's case.
Btw, Cherrie's case is similar to that of Tanya Rush, although I don't recall having discussed her case.

Homicide Victim: Rush, Tanya

troopers.ny.gov

I honestly don't care if I'm wrong lol, I just care about justice. In some cases it would surprise me though.

Re the Asian male, it is more of a leaning than a solid conviction. He is definitely not the same as his other chosen victims that we know about but between his types of web searches and that the male was dressed as a female (do we know that or as it speculated, I'm not sure, can't recall...), I think it's a distinct possibility. Peaches I was probably less sure of, the fact there was a baby made that one seem more unlikely.

You know all the victims we know of of his are adult women but he also searched like was it 9 or 10 year old blonde girls so I'd say there are definitely things we don't know about him and his thinking...

The Sarge had Josh Zeman on yesterday and it was a good discussion, took a bit to get going but then got to be one. There are a lot more things found or known than I was aware of it sounds like or maybe I've just forgotten in the sheer number of things and victims and victims speculated about.

I confuse some of the victims and years, it's just too much to keep straight, for me at least. I've got certain ones down pat though, quite a few of them, but not so much on the years and locations, just as to which was which by name and such.

I always did think it was the same killer for most where some thought the two main areas were two different killers. I allowed that thought too but was more convinced it was one, and it seems it was. Of course there are some that seem like they may not fit, such as Tanya and Tatiana, and the Asian male but then he does seem to have some variety in his searches...

Something they discussed yesterday was how he may have been trying to seem disorganized when he is really an organized killer, with various examples. They also touched on the planning document, reading of profiler books, and of course the web searches. They plan on more next week on Josh's channel on these things.

 

[Regina]

I honestly don't care if I'm wrong lol, I just care about justice. In some cases it would surprise me though.

Re the Asian male, it is more of a leaning than a solid conviction. He is definitely not the same as his other chosen victims that we know about but between his types of web searches and that the male was dressed as a female (do we know that or as it speculated, I'm not sure, can't recall...), I think it's a distinct possibility. Peaches I was probably less sure of, the fact there was a baby made that one seem more unlikely.

You know all the victims we know of of his are adult women but he also searched like was it 9 or 10 year old blonde girls so I'd say there are definitely things we don't know about him and his thinking...

The Sarge had Josh Zeman on yesterday and it was a good discussion, took a bit to get going but then got to be one. There are a lot more things found or known than I was aware of it sounds like or maybe I've just forgotten in the sheer number of things and victims and victims speculated about.

I confuse some of the victims and years, it's just too much to keep straight, for me at least. I've got certain ones down pat though, quite a few of them, but not so much on the years and locations, just as to which was which by name and such.

I always did think it was the same killer for most where some thought the two main areas were two different killers. I allowed that thought too but was more convinced it was one, and it seems it was. Of course there are some that seem like they may not fit, such as Tanya and Tatiana, and the Asian male but then he does seem to have some variety in his searches...

Something they discussed yesterday was how he may have been trying to seem disorganized when he is really an organized killer, with various examples. They also touched on the planning document, reading of profiler books, and of course the web searches. They plan on more next week on Josh's channel on these things.

Well, that's what I thought you meant by "prepared to be wrong", that you'd be surprised, I mean, that's what I meant by my reply, not that I cared about being wrong but that I'd be surprised, indeed, shocked in some cases.

Re Asian male, there was female clothing with the remains.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Well, that's what I thought you meant by "prepared to be wrong", that you'd be surprised, I mean, that's what I meant by my reply, not that I cared about being wrong but that I'd be surprised, indeed, shocked in some cases.

Re Asian male, there was female clothing with the remains.

Yeah, I don't mean that I'd be surprised in this one though either--just like I'm not surprised Tanya and baby were not CB. I'm not sold on the Asian male either, I just lean that way. To put it better, I wouldn't be surprised to be wrong. It is only a "leaning" that I think CB did it re the Asian male where in some cases, I'm convinced someone did something. I'm not convinced here so wouldn't be surprised to be wrong. I don't know if that made a bit of sense lol. In some cases, I'd be very surprised to be wrong. Again, it is just a "leaning" here re the Asian male.

Yeah, I thought they/we knew he was dressed as a female but could not recall for sure. Thanks for confirming that.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

Army vet and ex-state trooper pleads not guilty in 1997 killing once linked to Gilgo Beach murders

A retired Army veteran and former state trooper has pleaded not guilty in the 1997 killing of a young mother whose remains were found near the victims of Long Island’s infamous Gilgo Beach killings.

apnews.com

 

[GrandmaBear]

Army vet and ex-state trooper pleads not guilty in 1997 killing once linked to Gilgo Beach murders

A retired Army veteran and former state trooper has pleaded not guilty in the 1997 killing of a young mother whose remains were found near the victims of Long Island’s infamous Gilgo Beach killings.

apnews.com

Wow. I don't think we knew all of this did we? So the DNA was semen on mom. And they surveilled him in FL until getting his DNA from a straw. So he had sex with her before killing her and likely his outside his marriage baby with her, what a nice--NOT--guy. Stellar as his attorney implies. He's had an exemplary career most LE would admire. I bet probably a great marriage too (yeah if such can be true with a cheater/murderer of those related to his own amoral deeds.

Had the kind of training that would explain the surgical precision with dismembering...

Sad that they may never get him for Tatiana's death but it goes to follow he killed the child too.

And he just had to have one more roll in the hay before killing them. Smh. Was she pushing for him to divorce, for support, to tell his wife? And his own child he kills as well??

Good luck with Mr. Exemplary Career Guy Mr. Defense Attorney and with challenging the DNA. Seems to me they are being pretty methodical in all of these cases and not charging until they have pretty solid evidence and certainty. To come up with the fact it wasn't RH/CB the SK I'd say they are pretty damned certain. I wonder if they can place him with her shortly before or in the area of disposal too.