Who is the LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER? *ARREST JULY 2023* (2 Viewers)

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The Long Island serial killer (also referred to as LISK, the Gilgo Beach Killer or the Craigslist Ripper) is an unidentified suspected serial killer who is believed to have murdered 10 to 16 people over a period of nearly 20 years.
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Takeitfromme said:
anyways back to this i'll chat about the so called NESK in the connecticut river valley thread

I'm hoping Asian doe is ID'd next.... Othram is who is working on it and they snuck in a comment to grizzly's x post saying something to the effect of it not being much longer or just a matter of time but they have said and Tierney has too that FBI and Othram are who is working to ID him so I sure hope it's soon

even when someone isn't ID'd and evidence is found AND said killer is alive they can be charged
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Boy have you guys been busy. I didn't expect to only hope to catch up on one thread tonight. You mean Grizzly, has a YT channel too? I started out liking her a lot and even recommended her on this site but then a few things over time bothered me, but that can happen with anyone. I could share some reasons but then I'd sidetrack probably or fall asleep.

I do hope he is ID'd. Sneaking in a comment is interesting and of course it is them having some pairing with the taco gambling queen. Sorry but how thought of here mostly.

I guess because of that pairing and some other things makes me a bit less than trusting on such but they need these cases clean and well documented and done.

However, I hope that's the case and Asian Doe will be ID'd.

I agree with you that I think he probably killed all.
 
Regina said:
I hadn't but I did go back and read the link and I still say "And?" lol

And no one we know of was killed in 2011. Remains continued to be discovered along Ocean PKWY in 2011 but none of those victims were killed on 2011.
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I am not sure where this is at, been trying to catch up, but I seriously doubt he entirely stopped killing if that is what it is about. They had or he did other homes out of state and you name it and his mom at a point was living elsewhere and he visited her and there are stories of people who THINK it was him ever since he was arrested. You think he quit? Just trying to catch up here?

Not only that they went on for years of how hard to search for victims, all the water, all this and that, all the excuses even on Parkway, etc., refusing to search even for Shannon hardly until a bigger stink was made as I recall it. He could well have more victims even in that neck of the woods.

I don't know and I had seen the posts back and forth earlier, maybe yesterday, but not sure at this point as been a busy thread, I agree we honestly don''t know when most were killed at all. I mean they have their guesses based on when some were last seen....

However, I don't see him as someone that quit, not sure why but I don't. Instinct. Of course he was older when caught so it is possible. I mean he's about my age and I could not bury someone easily if I needed to or get rid of someone, etc., however men have more strength, hard to say and if the drive was still there...

Anyhow, just trying to catch up here and good to see you as always. Boy I miss a few days and busy thread lol.
 
Regina said:
I agree that Hackett was an intriguing individual but like any other resident in that community including the John, had absolutely nothing to do with happened to Gilbert.
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If he didn't, he was an absolute idiot to do as he did. Not sure if we will ever know all, but sure a lot of weird sh*t.
 
Tresir said:
And what?

Shannon Gilbert was finally found in Dec 2011 but we don't know how or when she died. She was found not far from Charles Peter Hackett's home.

We also don't know if CB continued stalking and killing after then, but found a different stalking and disposal area. We know his vehicle went to SC where he owned a property. I do find it hard to believe he just stopped after so many years.
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Man have you guys been busy on here. I'm going to catch up with only one thread at this rate if I'm lucky.

It has always bothered me, he has, and how close she was found to his home, and then he makes call, etc. It of course is hard thing to let go of, I have that issue too. Her case has ALWAYS bothered me. That 911 call was ordered released and they STILL refused to do it back when. AS I've said I've been done this path many a time. MANY.

At minimum there sure are a lot of creepy professional men there and a real disregard for prostitutes other than when they use one. Just treated like disposable garbage. And THEN he makes a phone call, etc.....? Not any doctor I'd ever want I'll say that. And that's at MINIMUM.

And THEN the KILLER of others makes phone calls to families. Alleged killer. It is a very hard thing to ignore, I just can't go there a lot right now or back down those paths, have been down them, but rest assured I don't believe in much coincidence... And I do recall a lot of all that. And I have not forgotten most of it and have not let it go, maybe never will.
 
Tresir said:
I think it was Amber Costello where they had the vehicle description on file and hadn't followed it up.

I think they had the Karen Vergata info too as it was a cop who picked her up from jail.
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YeaH I'm still catching up, thought it was Amber and not J Taylor.
 
Takeitfromme said:
i believe he literally looked her up by landline and contacted her that way.... creepy huh?
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I can't keep all the call stuff straight but I thought in some cases he had the phone of the victim and found family numbers on such? But yes, in that case, he may well have looked up the landline.
 
GrandmaBear said:
I can't keep all the call stuff straight but I thought in some cases he had the phone of the victim and found family numbers on such? But yes, in that case, he may well have looked up the landline.
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That is Hackett calling Marie Gilbert we were talking about. He supposedly said he used his wife's phone to call, but yeah what if he used Shannon's phone? Did LE find Shannon's phone when they found her belongings and body?
 
Tresir said:
And what?

Shannon Gilbert was finally found in Dec 2011 but we don't know how or when she died. She was found not far from Charles Peter Hackett's home.

We also don't know if CB continued stalking and killing after then, but found a different stalking and disposal area. We know his vehicle went to SC where he owned a property. I do find it hard to believe he just stopped after so many years.
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Indeed, "and what" and in this latest instance, add to it so what? lol.
 
Tresir said:
I think it was Amber Costello where they had the vehicle description on file and hadn't followed it up.

I think they had the Karen Vergata info too as it was a cop who picked her up from jail.
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That's right; I was thinking of Costello but said Taylor.
Anyway, yeah, I don't know how much effort there was, if any, in trying to identify the vehicle / vehicle owner.
You know, this circumstance with that particular lead reminds me of what happened in the Delphi case with the info from that conservation officer re Allen being the man on the bridge.
 
Tresir said:
That is Hackett calling Marie Gilbert we were talking about. He supposedly said he used his wife's phone to call, but yeah what if he used Shannon's phone? Did LE find Shannon's phone when they found her belongings and body?
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Okay. It was hard to catch up, you guys have been BUSY on this thread lol. I know about that and Hackett's nasty call. Never really thought of it being Shannon's phone but honestly she was calling 911 and such so yeah, where is it.....? Her case bothers me to no end and like I said, I just cant go down into such all again at least not right now but I recall plenty on hers, I knew without even reading it about the wayward girls home call, that's one thing never forgot of course. I always just thought he found the land line number but interesting though re her phone..... I recall so much re her, but finer details are harder to recall in some of these.

Like I said earlier, it's kind of downright weird CB called victim familes and Hackett did THIS too. I can't NOT say that's kind of odd...
 
Regina said:
That's right; I was thinking of Costello but said Taylor.
Anyway, yeah, I don't know how much effort there was, if any, in trying to identify the vehicle / vehicle owner.
You know, this circumstance with that particular lead reminds me of what happened in the Delphi case with the info from that conservation officer re Allen being the man on the bridge.
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Lol I noted right off too when catching up--Costello is one victim I mostly have straight--that you said Taylor.

Not sure exactly what you mean re Delphi and this--are you saying they were lost tips or tips that magically came about? Not sure how you mean that part?

Two of the people Costello knew (at least two) talked of him and the vehicle, ogre like man, etc.
 
Regina said:
My take his initial involvement is that he thought he could be of help to Gilbert when she was located.
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Oh, that's not my take at all... Never has been. So on that one, we are kind of going to hopefully agree to disagree lol. It happens with us on occasion. These are WEIRD people imo. These men, the various ones in this case/cases and Gilbert particularly. Home for wayward girls?? She for one was not a child. Just for starters.
 
GrandmaBear said:
Lol I noted right off too when catching up--Costello is one victim I mostly have straight--that you said Taylor.

Not sure exactly what you mean re Delphi and this--are you saying they were lost tips or tips that magically came about? Not sure how you mean that part?

Two of the people Costello knew (at least two) talked of him and the vehicle, ogre like man, etc.
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I'm saying that like in Delphi, the investigative file contained info that led to the break in the case years later.
 
Regina said:
So re Hackett, it wasn't until after Alex made contact with Hackett that Hackett spoke with the mother.
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Sounds very familiar, not doubting. Still, why?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he is connected to CB/RH necessarily. Or anything like that but she was a grown woman not a wayward girl. And all the men in that case are downright ODD. And he is one of them.
 
Regina said:
I'm saying that like in Delphi, the investigative file contained info that led to the break in the case years later.
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And meaning, you think it magical, or crooked, some tip appeared....? I guess that's what I'm asking. OR on the other hand that LE just missed such and didn't do well with the tips?
 
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