I’m watching a live report that Rob Reiner and his wife were stabbed to death in Brentwood and it might’ve been by Rob‘s son. Still waiting for verification.
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The Murder of Rob and Michele Reiner in Brentwood, California
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I’m watching a live report that Rob Reiner and his wife were stabbed to death in Brentwood and it might’ve been by Rob‘s son. Still waiting for verification.
GrandmaBear
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I am still finishing the one I linked.
Rob lived in emotional denial. Michelle wanted to call the cops, he said no. She realized and she lived in truth it says. She had said things to a friend even three months before. Of course all sources are unnamed. Rob lived in scripts, fantasy and denial.
Spiritual advisers, alternative therapies, etc. too.
This is why I don't usually follow Hollywood type cases. Most of them don't live in the real world. It's like some alternate universe.
I'm forming a picture the more I hear.
It IS the defense starting the PR to make Nick sympathetic too... As if he's the victim. Give me a break.
Rob lived in emotional denial. Michelle wanted to call the cops, he said no. She realized and she lived in truth it says. She had said things to a friend even three months before. Of course all sources are unnamed. Rob lived in scripts, fantasy and denial.
Spiritual advisers, alternative therapies, etc. too.
This is why I don't usually follow Hollywood type cases. Most of them don't live in the real world. It's like some alternate universe.
I'm forming a picture the more I hear.
It IS the defense starting the PR to make Nick sympathetic too... As if he's the victim. Give me a break.
GrandmaBear
Former Member
This sounds like he was definitely in the house but would go into the guest house at times to isolate. Apparently Michelle saw it, looked into long term care facilities, etc. Stayed with Rob despite him not being on the same page.
Again, like most things sources aren't named but they claim sources close.
She canceled lunch dates, locked doors, jumped at any noise. Michelle.
To me after hearing a lot, it's also about not wanting people to know and image.
She also had a journal....
Jeez. Probably won't listen to the rest tonight either. Listening to bits at a time.
I have nothing but I do not envy Hollywood types or people at all. Never.
Again, like most things sources aren't named but they claim sources close.
She canceled lunch dates, locked doors, jumped at any noise. Michelle.
To me after hearing a lot, it's also about not wanting people to know and image.
She also had a journal....
Jeez. Probably won't listen to the rest tonight either. Listening to bits at a time.
I have nothing but I do not envy Hollywood types or people at all. Never.
GrandmaBear
Former Member
Take this for what it's worth which is probably a grain of salt. There is so much out there and clickbait in this thing.
Just watched a short that said Rob left all assets to his adopted daughter of Penny Marshall and that all he left his bio kids is usage rights to the mansion.
Says Tracy did it all on her own and never used nepotism or her father's name. That she moved in across the street and helped take care of Nick, getting him to rehab, etc. I thought Romy lived across the street? They both did?
The whole thing seemed canned and faked and like AI or something was reading it. That's why I'm not linking it.
I only mention it to ask if anyone else has heard these things and if there is any basis to them?
Just watched a short that said Rob left all assets to his adopted daughter of Penny Marshall and that all he left his bio kids is usage rights to the mansion.
Says Tracy did it all on her own and never used nepotism or her father's name. That she moved in across the street and helped take care of Nick, getting him to rehab, etc. I thought Romy lived across the street? They both did?
The whole thing seemed canned and faked and like AI or something was reading it. That's why I'm not linking it.
I only mention it to ask if anyone else has heard these things and if there is any basis to them?
Cousin Dupree
Keep Others Safe
I have actually been told by a mental health professional that chronic drug usage can create schizophrenia. That’s been a known issue for a long time.
However, if the reports are true about his childhood, I still think he could’ve had organic schizophrenia that was just exasperated by chronic drug usage.
GrandmaBear
Former Member
Hard to say. I've heard that too by the way and it definitely can worsen it too.
I await further info on it, the when and at what age he was thought to have first had such, when diagnosed and so on. Whether using or SP came first and so on.
I don't trust much Hollywood or where a lot of power and money are concerned. This case has gone overboard also with the clickbait and from just about everyone under the sun who makes any kind of living by any kind of news, both longtimers and new ones popping up all of the time.
Nick isn't going to gain my sympathy easily and doubtful at all.
That being said, I don't think the parents maybe handled things the best or were always on the same page by any means BUT when one member of a family has something like SP, or uses drugs or both, it absolutely wrecks the family no doubt, and all becomes about them. What he's doing, what he's not doing, what he may do next, whether he is safe, whether he is dangerous, not letting them near anything of value or money and on and on and on.
GrandmaBear
Former Member
Not my fave for some reasons but he's always a sane voice and my reasons are not related to his take on most things.
And he touches on a "Dopey" show with Nick on it... I hadn't seen. Have others?
And he touches on a "Dopey" show with Nick on it... I hadn't seen. Have others?
Mel70
I miss you Oreo.
That is the first time I have heard her name since the beginning of this.
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GrandmaBear
Former Member
Every bit of news, and there has been a LOT of course and clickbait, etc. if they mention the adopted and Penny at all, it is in passing. Not a hint of whether the other kids are close to her, whether she would inherit from Rob, whether he still cared or saw her, etc. Until this one I mentioned. It seemed like pure clickbait and maybe not accurate BUT... WHY is she never mentioned. By the stepsiblings, etc. and other people?
If the police had been called it could have prevented the murders.
Tragic: Conan O'Brien Could Have Saved Reiners' Lives if He Hadn't Ordered Guests Not to Call the Police When Nick Spun Out of Control© Michael Loccisano / Getty Images; David Livingston / Getty Images
Comedian and late-night host Conan O'Brien might or might not have cause to regret his decision.
We cannot know his motives, so we will not speculate. But it seems clear that a different decision from O'Brien might have produced a different result.
According to the U.K.'s Daily Mail+, multiple guests present at the comedian's Dec. 13 Christmas party have come forward to report that an argument between 78-year-old Hollywood legend Rob Reiner and his troubled son, 32-year-old Nick Reiner, grew so heated that one guest suggested calling the police, only to have O'Brien refuse.
"They got in an argument, the father and son," one source recalled. "It got so bad and loud someone wanted to call the police to report it.
"But Conan stepped in and said, 'It's my house, my party, I'm not calling the police.' He talked them out of calling the police," the source added.
Hours later, Nick allegedly slashed the throats of both his father, Rob, and mother, 70-year-old Michele Singer Reiner.
Could O'Brien have prevented the murders?
"When the s*** was hitting the fan," a second source recalled, "somebody said we need to call the police. The conversation was about getting this kid put into a mental-health hold."
That second source confirmed O'Brien's refusal to notify authorities.
"Conan O'Brien stepped in and said, 'No, I don't want the police at my house,' the source added. "It makes sense; who wants the cops showing up creating a scene? But the argument between Rob and Nick was pretty intense."
Meanwhile, the first source speculated about how O'Brien must have taken the news of the Reiners' eventual murder.
"Only the murderer is responsible," the original source said. "But it must be gut-wrenching for Conan to learn that this is how things turned out. I'm sure that night is replaying for him over and over. It's just so awful and sad."
On the whole, the guests' recollections raise several questions.
First, why did Rob Reiner engage in a public argument with his mentally disturbed son? Even if you feel intense frustration, as the elder Reiner undoubtedly did, what good could a confrontation do? After all, yelling at someone with a mental illness seems like the definition of pointless.
Perhaps President Donald Trump wrote too much and too soon about his famous Hollywood antagonist's tragic demise. Still, the president had it right when he noted that the legendary actor and director had anger issues.
Second, what explains O'Brien's refusal to call police?
If the comedian acted out of deference to the Reiners -- not wanting to embarrass them by involving law enforcement in a family dispute -- then one could understand the motive.
If, however, O'Brien acted from mere pride -- thinking primarily of himself, his house, and his party -- then he has much on which to reflect with shame.
Finally, did liberalism play a role in the evening's tragic events?
By all accounts, Nick Reiner had exhibited erratic behavior throughout the evening. But the elder Reiner -- the one presumably not suffering from mental illness -- also allowed the argument to grow into an unseemly public confrontation when he ought to have known better.
Thus, did O'Brien fail to act because liberals abhor accountability? Did he fail to act because liberals loathe the police? What evidence do we have that liberals would even recognize bad behavior if they saw it?
Of course, we cannot answer these questions. We can only pray that O'Brien, for his sake, had the right motives, and that the Reiners have finally found peace.
Tragic: Conan O'Brien Could Have Saved Reiners' Lives if He Hadn't Ordered Guests Not to Call the Police When Nick Spun Out of Control© Michael Loccisano / Getty Images; David Livingston / Getty Images
Comedian and late-night host Conan O'Brien might or might not have cause to regret his decision.
We cannot know his motives, so we will not speculate. But it seems clear that a different decision from O'Brien might have produced a different result.
According to the U.K.'s Daily Mail+, multiple guests present at the comedian's Dec. 13 Christmas party have come forward to report that an argument between 78-year-old Hollywood legend Rob Reiner and his troubled son, 32-year-old Nick Reiner, grew so heated that one guest suggested calling the police, only to have O'Brien refuse.
"They got in an argument, the father and son," one source recalled. "It got so bad and loud someone wanted to call the police to report it.
"But Conan stepped in and said, 'It's my house, my party, I'm not calling the police.' He talked them out of calling the police," the source added.
Hours later, Nick allegedly slashed the throats of both his father, Rob, and mother, 70-year-old Michele Singer Reiner.
Could O'Brien have prevented the murders?
"When the s*** was hitting the fan," a second source recalled, "somebody said we need to call the police. The conversation was about getting this kid put into a mental-health hold."
That second source confirmed O'Brien's refusal to notify authorities.
"Conan O'Brien stepped in and said, 'No, I don't want the police at my house,' the source added. "It makes sense; who wants the cops showing up creating a scene? But the argument between Rob and Nick was pretty intense."
Meanwhile, the first source speculated about how O'Brien must have taken the news of the Reiners' eventual murder.
"Only the murderer is responsible," the original source said. "But it must be gut-wrenching for Conan to learn that this is how things turned out. I'm sure that night is replaying for him over and over. It's just so awful and sad."
On the whole, the guests' recollections raise several questions.
First, why did Rob Reiner engage in a public argument with his mentally disturbed son? Even if you feel intense frustration, as the elder Reiner undoubtedly did, what good could a confrontation do? After all, yelling at someone with a mental illness seems like the definition of pointless.
Perhaps President Donald Trump wrote too much and too soon about his famous Hollywood antagonist's tragic demise. Still, the president had it right when he noted that the legendary actor and director had anger issues.
Second, what explains O'Brien's refusal to call police?
If the comedian acted out of deference to the Reiners -- not wanting to embarrass them by involving law enforcement in a family dispute -- then one could understand the motive.
If, however, O'Brien acted from mere pride -- thinking primarily of himself, his house, and his party -- then he has much on which to reflect with shame.
Finally, did liberalism play a role in the evening's tragic events?
By all accounts, Nick Reiner had exhibited erratic behavior throughout the evening. But the elder Reiner -- the one presumably not suffering from mental illness -- also allowed the argument to grow into an unseemly public confrontation when he ought to have known better.
Thus, did O'Brien fail to act because liberals abhor accountability? Did he fail to act because liberals loathe the police? What evidence do we have that liberals would even recognize bad behavior if they saw it?
Of course, we cannot answer these questions. We can only pray that O'Brien, for his sake, had the right motives, and that the Reiners have finally found peace.
Mel70
I miss you Oreo.
Oh ffs. Nick. In the clink until after the 1st. I hope I definitely. His behavior to me. He knew what he was doing.
Mel70
I miss you Oreo.
Why write an article then speculating?If the police had been called it could have prevented the murders.
Tragic: Conan O'Brien could have saved Reiners' lives if he hadn't ordered guests not to call the police when Nick spun out of control
Story by Michael Schwarz
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Tragic: Conan O'Brien Could Have Saved Reiners' Lives if He Hadn't Ordered Guests Not to Call the Police When Nick Spun Out of Control© Michael Loccisano / Getty Images; David Livingston / Getty Images
Comedian and late-night host Conan O'Brien might or might not have cause to regret his decision.
We cannot know his motives, so we will not speculate. But it seems clear that a different decision from O'Brien might have produced a different result.
According to the U.K.'s Daily Mail+, multiple guests present at the comedian's Dec. 13 Christmas party have come forward to report that an argument between 78-year-old Hollywood legend Rob Reiner and his troubled son, 32-year-old Nick Reiner, grew so heated that one guest suggested calling the police, only to have O'Brien refuse.
"They got in an argument, the father and son," one source recalled. "It got so bad and loud someone wanted to call the police to report it.
"But Conan stepped in and said, 'It's my house, my party, I'm not calling the police.' He talked them out of calling the police," the source added.
Hours later, Nick allegedly slashed the throats of both his father, Rob, and mother, 70-year-old Michele Singer Reiner.
Could O'Brien have prevented the murders?
"When the s*** was hitting the fan," a second source recalled, "somebody said we need to call the police. The conversation was about getting this kid put into a mental-health hold."
That second source confirmed O'Brien's refusal to notify authorities.
"Conan O'Brien stepped in and said, 'No, I don't want the police at my house,' the source added. "It makes sense; who wants the cops showing up creating a scene? But the argument between Rob and Nick was pretty intense."
Meanwhile, the first source speculated about how O'Brien must have taken the news of the Reiners' eventual murder.
"Only the murderer is responsible," the original source said. "But it must be gut-wrenching for Conan to learn that this is how things turned out. I'm sure that night is replaying for him over and over. It's just so awful and sad."
On the whole, the guests' recollections raise several questions.
First, why did Rob Reiner engage in a public argument with his mentally disturbed son? Even if you feel intense frustration, as the elder Reiner undoubtedly did, what good could a confrontation do? After all, yelling at someone with a mental illness seems like the definition of pointless.
Perhaps President Donald Trump wrote too much and too soon about his famous Hollywood antagonist's tragic demise. Still, the president had it right when he noted that the legendary actor and director had anger issues.
Second, what explains O'Brien's refusal to call police?
If the comedian acted out of deference to the Reiners -- not wanting to embarrass them by involving law enforcement in a family dispute -- then one could understand the motive.
If, however, O'Brien acted from mere pride -- thinking primarily of himself, his house, and his party -- then he has much on which to reflect with shame.
Finally, did liberalism play a role in the evening's tragic events?
By all accounts, Nick Reiner had exhibited erratic behavior throughout the evening. But the elder Reiner -- the one presumably not suffering from mental illness -- also allowed the argument to grow into an unseemly public confrontation when he ought to have known better.
Thus, did O'Brien fail to act because liberals abhor accountability? Did he fail to act because liberals loathe the police? What evidence do we have that liberals would even recognize bad behavior if they saw it?
Of course, we cannot answer these questions. We can only pray that O'Brien, for his sake, had the right motives, and that the Reiners have finally found peace.
Leave him alone.
Mel70
I miss you Oreo.
Exactly. No mention of her whatsoever
GrandmaBear
Former Member
The inserting of political sh*t in any of this is not something I even take note of.If the police had been called it could have prevented the murders.
Tragic: Conan O'Brien could have saved Reiners' lives if he hadn't ordered guests not to call the police when Nick spun out of control
Story by Michael Schwarz
• 4d
Tragic: Conan O'Brien Could Have Saved Reiners' Lives if He Hadn't Ordered Guests Not to Call the Police When Nick Spun Out of Control© Michael Loccisano / Getty Images; David Livingston / Getty Images
Comedian and late-night host Conan O'Brien might or might not have cause to regret his decision.
We cannot know his motives, so we will not speculate. But it seems clear that a different decision from O'Brien might have produced a different result.
According to the U.K.'s Daily Mail+, multiple guests present at the comedian's Dec. 13 Christmas party have come forward to report that an argument between 78-year-old Hollywood legend Rob Reiner and his troubled son, 32-year-old Nick Reiner, grew so heated that one guest suggested calling the police, only to have O'Brien refuse.
"They got in an argument, the father and son," one source recalled. "It got so bad and loud someone wanted to call the police to report it.
"But Conan stepped in and said, 'It's my house, my party, I'm not calling the police.' He talked them out of calling the police," the source added.
Hours later, Nick allegedly slashed the throats of both his father, Rob, and mother, 70-year-old Michele Singer Reiner.
Could O'Brien have prevented the murders?
"When the s*** was hitting the fan," a second source recalled, "somebody said we need to call the police. The conversation was about getting this kid put into a mental-health hold."
That second source confirmed O'Brien's refusal to notify authorities.
"Conan O'Brien stepped in and said, 'No, I don't want the police at my house,' the source added. "It makes sense; who wants the cops showing up creating a scene? But the argument between Rob and Nick was pretty intense."
Meanwhile, the first source speculated about how O'Brien must have taken the news of the Reiners' eventual murder.
"Only the murderer is responsible," the original source said. "But it must be gut-wrenching for Conan to learn that this is how things turned out. I'm sure that night is replaying for him over and over. It's just so awful and sad."
On the whole, the guests' recollections raise several questions.
First, why did Rob Reiner engage in a public argument with his mentally disturbed son? Even if you feel intense frustration, as the elder Reiner undoubtedly did, what good could a confrontation do? After all, yelling at someone with a mental illness seems like the definition of pointless.
Perhaps President Donald Trump wrote too much and too soon about his famous Hollywood antagonist's tragic demise. Still, the president had it right when he noted that the legendary actor and director had anger issues.
Second, what explains O'Brien's refusal to call police?
If the comedian acted out of deference to the Reiners -- not wanting to embarrass them by involving law enforcement in a family dispute -- then one could understand the motive.
If, however, O'Brien acted from mere pride -- thinking primarily of himself, his house, and his party -- then he has much on which to reflect with shame.
Finally, did liberalism play a role in the evening's tragic events?
By all accounts, Nick Reiner had exhibited erratic behavior throughout the evening. But the elder Reiner -- the one presumably not suffering from mental illness -- also allowed the argument to grow into an unseemly public confrontation when he ought to have known better.
Thus, did O'Brien fail to act because liberals abhor accountability? Did he fail to act because liberals loathe the police? What evidence do we have that liberals would even recognize bad behavior if they saw it?
Of course, we cannot answer these questions. We can only pray that O'Brien, for his sake, had the right motives, and that the Reiners have finally found peace.
Conan was worried about his own party and how it went it would seem to me.
Did a one of them care after what was become allegedly a pretty big blow up to check on Rob and Michelle after they left, or see them home or even check the next morning? To say to both chill down and separate Nick from the parents for the night etc.? Some friends. That being said, I'm not the biggest fan of how it seems Rob dealt with Nick in life and how Nick imo played them.
GrandmaBear
Former Member
Everything indicates it. Agree.
I don't know but if LE had been called then the knife attacks may not have subsequently happened. It sounds like a pretty major altercation was taking place and i guess it spilled over and continued back at the residence or Nick was enraged by the row and took revenge by killing them while they slept. It's clearly the motivation for the slayings anyway.
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GrandmaBear
Former Member
I agree that the row is now sounding big. At first, I think because of names, power, image some were playing it down. Conan's party is "THE" party (don't ask me why as no idea) and he didn't want any such thing happening there, LE called or his party to be affected. It does sound like a FEW have more of a conscience.
I don't know if it still would have happened or not, we will never know I guess, but no one did a thing and apparently some were stopped from doing anything. But they too, if enough of a concern or conscience should have made their excuses, left, and did something about it and checked on the safety of the parents.
A lot of this is why I generally don't do "Hollywood" cases. I was into this one from the start, about the only time I do follow one. I have to be caught up in the beginning or I basically never do.
We all have regrets in life and things we had done differently and hindsight is 20/20 but image is such a factor there and at such a party. Some seemed to worry and car but they even did not follow through.
They are just people whether they think themselves above or not. What really matters in this world? People imo. I mean I suppose to some making history might or being a "somebody" but in the long run...?
I'm not getting a great pic of Rob either these days but imo Nick was a manipulative spoiled brat who kept it all about him.
Cousin Dupree
Keep Others Safe
I think Conan was trying to let the Reiners deal with it. They'd dealt with him before and no murders happened. If the cops had been called it may not have stopped anything. I think Rob would have resisted having his kid arrested.
GrandmaBear
Former Member
Possibly. All of that may be true, may have happened, if and if etc. Conan dealt with Nick a lot? Haven't seen that. And Rob may have resisted or talked with influence poewr and money about his adult son beyond his 20s being arrested we won't ever know right?
I didn't know Conan was used to it. I'd like to know more. Link?
They all have phones and any one of then could have called the cops if they were concerned. But they didnt. They didn't need the host's permission.
Maybe threats were made perhaps? Did they all leave together I wonder?