I have all the docs in this case if anyone is interested. You may already have them I am just learning to get around in here! Very cool site. I have the autopsy's as well and can link them if I am allowed to .. thanks
Thanks for joining up with us!Welcome. Yes, I'm sure that would be fine and I'm sure a mod will confirm that. Docs to a case are always okay! I hope you will like it here and will free to join in any discussion on any case.
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I am looking at them on a phone and it lets me enlarge them by putting two fingers on the screen and separating the fingers. I don't know if you are on a phone so your device may not have that function. The bullet wounds described in Monique's details clearly show her defensive wounds.I can't read them, maybe others can.
I've heard the info from multiple sources now with the documents though.
Didn't see the need to link them all.
I think she had an abrasion too but not sure how they tell if that was from this incident.
It sure went out the window for many who thought she was only shot once. I never fell for that as it was total speculation just because they didn't say how many times they were shot, who first or anything else (LE I mean).
We have a new member that actually put up all docs in the case. So I'm going to take a look at those.I am looking at them on a phone and it lets me enlarge them by putting two fingers on the screen and separating the fingers. I don't know if you are on a phone so your device may not have that function. The bullet wounds described in Monique's details clearly show her defensive wounds.
Ok, well I hope you can read them. I don't necessarily want to read them but we had heard about the defensive wounds so i just read that bit only.We have a new member that actually put up all docs in the case. So I'm going to take a look at those.
I've never been to Discord, not even sure what it is lol. Have heard of it though.I accidentally deleted the entry where I asked about dropping the above docs, I am sorry about that, new to the site. I have many more docs related to this case and tons of research ... I run 4 discords for 4 diff creators so I research sooooo many cases, current and old all day lol... let me know if you would like mor info .. I am so glad to be here ...None of the Discords I work allow any drama either, so this is refreshing to find ... loving reading all the comments
I just started on her autopsy report and yes, it's nice and clear and scrollable and all.I am looking at them on a phone and it lets me enlarge them by putting two fingers on the screen and separating the fingers. I don't know if you are on a phone so your device may not have that function. The bullet wounds described in Monique's details clearly show her defensive wounds.
They are the different pages of each autopsy report just so you know, they aren't all that long, to read them all at all.How nice to have all those documents available to us! I appreciate you taking the time. I can’t look from my phone because I’m running out of data and needing a new phone, (which is in the works.) I will check on them when I’m on my computer again.
I can’t download anything onto my phone right now. It’s really bad.They are the different pages of each autopsy report just so you know, they aren't all that long, to read them all at all.
I know you've been having issues with it. I just meant when you can, don't think because it is several downloads that anything is all that long, they aren't.I can’t download anything onto my phone right now. It’s really bad.
She had a 1 year old so it may have been a nursing bra if she was still breastfeeding. Also, I don't think it is unusal to wear a necklace ( like a gold or silver chain with a locket) all the time. I have one with a small silver heart locket with tiny pics of my kids aged about the same (1 and 4) that I used to wear all the time when they were young.I just started on her autopsy report and yes, it's nice and clear and scrollable and all.
But I'm not even partway through and I see she was clothed?!! I guess I thought particularly with her she'd have been sleeping. And figured Spencer may have been too since he was found near the bed. Haven't gotten that far but she's clothed right down to a bra. That is "clothed". Not in nightwear.
Even sleeping? I wouldn't want anything that could wrap around my neck when I was sleeping? She had two shirts on, not sure it would be a nursing bra, hardly easy access to the bra with two shirts. It was winter so two shirts can make sense but most don't wear two to bed, you have blankets then and the warmth of your partner. Putting it all together, I find her state of dress kind of odd.She had a 1 year old so it may have been a nursing bra if she was still breastfeeding. Also, I don't think it is unusal to wear a necklace ( like a gold or silver chain with a locket) all the time. I have one with a small silver heart locket with tiny pics of my kids aged about the same (1 and 4) that I used to wear all the time when they were young.
Yeah I wore the locket all the time when the kids were young. Many years ago now. Also this was December so extra clothes wouldn't be unusual IMO, if she was still feeding the 1 year old at night or early morning.Even sleeping? I wouldn't want anything that could wrap around my neck when I was sleeping? She had two shirts on, not sure it would be a nursing bra, hardly easy access to the bra with two shirts. It was winter so two shirts can make sense but most don't wear two to bed, you have blankets then and the warmth of your partner. Putting it all together, I find her state of dress kind of odd.
See, I'm just the opposite, I wouldn't keep something around my neck like that while sleeping, for another thing besides it tightening if tossing and turning, is that it might damage it. I get it though. I'd keep a ring or bracelet on if something like of that importance but not a necklace.Yeah I wore the locket all the time when the kids were young. Many years ago now. Also this was December so extra clothes wouldn't be unusual IMO, if she was still feeding the 1 year old at night or early morning.
I am just saying what i did when the kids were very young and I breastfed. The locket i wore was a very fine silver chain so was no danger. The nursing bra gave good support but easy access to a feeding infant. I have also noticed a current trend for mothers to breastfeed for quite a while these days, too.See, I'm just the opposite, I wouldn't keep something around my neck like that while sleeping, for another thing besides it tightening if tossing and turning, is that it might damage it. I get it though. I'd keep a ring or bracelet on if something like of that importance but not a necklace.
It's hard to say but I still think if nursing yet (and many don't after a year old, some do, some don't), she wouldn't complicate that with two shirts imo. Why wear the bra to bed either, the child would have easier access if she had no bra on and her to give access. Plus the necklace on and two shirts. It's put all together that to me doesn't make sense.
Maybe she gets up when Spencer does and gets ready for the day and maybe they all go to bed early. I don't know...
I just know I had not seen anyone mention this. I live in arguably colder weather than Columbus, OH and my entire life I've not slept in two shirts or layers. During the day, sure I might have two on but not at night. I dind't wear two layers during the 26 below we just had and weeks of below zero.
To me she was getting dressed and hadn't quite finished or for some reason her pants were off. It didn't say night gown or anything either, it was two shirts. Plus if you're that cold, you wear pajama pants too in cold climes.