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CA ORRIN WEST & ORSON WEST: Missing from California City, CA - 21 Dec 2020 - Age 3 & 4 *GUILTY* (18 Viewers)

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I respond to many journalists where they blur the line of opinion & fact so it needed to be addressed & apparently my email was read and taken seriously.

In a lot of high profile cases the media frenzy wears down and then the rumors start flying. So, unless the Chief publically states the facts, then disregard all the other drama and leave it for another site to run with. ;)
I suspect that journalist, etc. and station probably got a few emails etc. and perhaps even a call from the Chief himself. I am tickled to hear from you they took it down or took it out, I did not know that but it already has went haywire and I am sure most do not know that.

I for sure am not trying to bring the drama here, I remark on it to show how crazy it is elsewhere about this case in the event someone does not or has not followed the case reads and has only heard a thing or two elsewhere from some of this sh*tstorm going on out there and in this case it was a media article so it would not be unlikely that someone would believe it. Even that place called JT says if it is in MSM or something affiliated, etc. it is allowed as if or like that is more factual which I don't find it to be much of the time these days.

His deal imo was no opinion piece. I never believed that remark from the start though. I did not attack it though or state he was lying but I did question why no Chief on video stating that when he had video of the Chief stating other things. I think I can guess what he thinks would leave him some wiggle room about the way he likely would say he interpreted something or to defend his lack of intent to purposefully give the wrong impression but I won't go into it. No point.

Very irresponsible journalism if you ask me unless the Chief actually stated such. I don't believe he did without proof to the contrary.
 
All reporting needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Whether intentional or non-intentional, the news isn’t always truthful. I know for a fact because I’ve had a couple of articles written about me and neither one of them was factual in its entirety. And both of them were written a long time ago, so it was before today’s fake news frenzy.
 
All reporting needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Whether intentional or non-intentional, the news isn’t always truthful. I know for a fact because I’ve had a couple of articles written about me and neither one of them was factual in its entirety. And both of them were written a long time ago, so it was before today’s fake news frenzy.
with my local case it became a common comment as to "that's what I said, but that's NOT what I said!". meaning that the media edited their interviews to where the context was totally different than what the actual conversation was, and then the media wondered why nobody would talk to them after a while.
 
All reporting needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Whether intentional or non-intentional, the news isn’t always truthful. I know for a fact because I’ve had a couple of articles written about me and neither one of them was factual in its entirety. And both of them were written a long time ago, so it was before today’s fake news frenzy.
We had that in our baby case. There were two things at different times that were incorrect, they were not huge but still gave the wrong impression. I have noticed for probably about two years, I don't think there is ever a case, something is not wrong in the coverage and some times two publications will totally conflict on a "fact". I can't decide what it is some times, misinterpretation or sloppy reporting, etc. Yet it happens in almost every case and is frustrating.

In this one though, that remark was so big to people I think it was intentional if not true. It came later too, as if it was saved for the later report they hyped for that day.
 
with my local case it became a common comment as to "that's what I said, but that's NOT what I said!". meaning that the media edited their interviews to where the context was totally different than what the actual conversation was, and then the media wondered why nobody would talk to them after a while.
I am hearing that more in some of these cases too from people complaining if they were on camera and about what they said and how it was taken. You can tell sometimes too. Some edits are so smooth but others you can almost tell where it jumps, changes or something is just a bit different. Maybe the person is in a bit of a different position, the conversation seems to have changed or shifted too abruptly, etc.

It goes to show you how a statement taken out of context can be "false". It makes me think of one thing I do not like about court. This is why attorneys try to keep your answer to just the answer with no explanation because then there is no context for the jury. You have to hope that your counsel will remember or know to ask on cross so you can explain.
 
with my local case it became a common comment as to "that's what I said, but that's NOT what I said!". meaning that the media edited their interviews to where the context was totally different than what the actual conversation was, and then the media wondered why nobody would talk to them after a while.
Bingo! This is exactly what I experienced in my interviews with the Register Guard.
 
"And then do you know what she said to me next?? I KILLED HIM!" Now edit/take off the first sentence and what do you have if the remainder is what is played with the person saying it on TV news channel?

Not a real example but just thinking about it and showing how a statement actually made can be "false" and yet the person stating it was not lying. Personally, when it is done to sensationalize, etc., I think it is the worst of irresponsible journalism. And yeah, why would people continue to talk to reporters if that happens or keeps happening when they or others do talk to them?
 
Linda who most here I think are familiar with from It's a Crime had Dutyron on last night. I did not see the live but watched it later. A few things are touched on but most of the video then is on this case. He is a sane voice in the frenzy out there and he touches on that frenzy and the things that don't matter or don't matter as much as some think they should. She is good too, as we know, and is not one that has ran with any of the crazy stuff, but she comes at it of course as a civilian where he comes at it from an LE viewpoint. Anyhow, worth a watch. Imo. Not saying it has new info, just a good look at it and what LE is likely doing, etc.

 
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All reporting needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Whether intentional or non-intentional, the news isn’t always truthful. I know for a fact because I’ve had a couple of articles written about me and neither one of them was factual in its entirety. And both of them were written a long time ago, so it was before today’s fake news frenzy.
And exactly what were these articles about you?. :sneaky:
 
"And then do you know what she said to me next?? I KILLED HIM!" Now edit/take off the first sentence and what do you have if the remainder is what is played with the person saying it on TV news channel?

Not a real example but just thinking about it and showing how a statement actually made can be "false" and yet the person stating it was not lying. Personally, when it is done to sensationalize, etc., I think it is the worst of irresponsible journalism. And yeah, why would people continue to talk to reporters if that happens or keeps happening when they or others do talk to them?
That is a great example and exactly 'why' they do it. Sensationalism sells. They are also good at throwing a headline out that sounds much better than the story the actual article tells.
 
The first one did. They twisted it around to make it sound like I was judging those who previously served in the position, which I did not.

The second interview about my son was just inaccurate, but not necessarily bad. :)
That's the way it was here. There was no reason why to change what they said. It added nothing really most of the time except it sounded more sensational and a few times there was no reason that we could figure out. They went through more work editing it differently than if they would have just left it alone.
 

Family of missing California City toddler brothers say they are being harassed​

Wanda West, the toddler's grandmother, told ABC News that the brothers' adoptive parents Trezell and Jacqueline West were "really good parents."

The Wests reported the incident on Dec. 21, 2020, telling authorities the boys disappeared while playing in the backyard of their home.

Since then, the "extended adoptive family" of the boys have endured a lot of harassment, according to a statement published by Jamal Watkins, Trezell West's oldest brother.

"What has continued is the alarming number of threats of physical violence (including death threats), intentional harassment and misinformation being perpetuated by groups ... and other individuals," Watkins said in the statement.

"This behavior being targeted towards the adoptive Grandparents, Aunts, Uncles, and Cousins of the missing boys is misguided at best because none of us are persons of interest or suspects in terms of the disappearance."
 

Family of missing California City toddler brothers say they are being harassed​

Wanda West, the toddler's grandmother, told ABC News that the brothers' adoptive parents Trezell and Jacqueline West were "really good parents."

The Wests reported the incident on Dec. 21, 2020, telling authorities the boys disappeared while playing in the backyard of their home.

Since then, the "extended adoptive family" of the boys have endured a lot of harassment, according to a statement published by Jamal Watkins, Trezell West's oldest brother.

"What has continued is the alarming number of threats of physical violence (including death threats), intentional harassment and misinformation being perpetuated by groups ... and other individuals," Watkins said in the statement.

"This behavior being targeted towards the adoptive Grandparents, Aunts, Uncles, and Cousins of the missing boys is misguided at best because none of us are persons of interest or suspects in terms of the disappearance."
They have been and it is beyond anything I have almost ever seen. Presumably much of it is legal the harassment and yelling f the people stay on the sidewalks, as to threats those may refer to that or something else. I can't believe though there are statutes like disturbing the peace or a public nuisance, etc.

I don't know if the grandparents know anything or had anything to do with anything, there is no evidence of it, but what people are doing to them I think it not helping and unnecessary.
 
They have been and it is beyond anything I have almost ever seen. Presumably much of it is legal the harassment and yelling f the people stay on the sidewalks, as to threats those may refer to that or something else. I can't believe though there are statutes like disturbing the peace or a public nuisance, etc.

I don't know if the grandparents know anything or had anything to do with anything, there is no evidence of it, but what people are doing to them I think it not helping and unnecessary.
It reminds me of what the Anthony family went through.
 
It reminds me of what the Anthony family went through.
That case has crossed my mind with this. I think it is probably very similar with the outrage and people almost "camped" out there yelling, etc. It may be a bit different in that at times it does seem a Youtuber or two get involved with it with more of the intent to get views, attention and help their channel. JMO and not all, but a few. The thing that is hard to understand is they yell about the grandparents not searching and yet they are not either, they are standing there yelling about it. I don't know... I guess I see nothing productive in it.
 

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