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I can't say I am surprised. I do not get why people are doing this. From what I have seen most of the "crime chasers" are staying on the street or in the empty lot but I guess I can't say that we can know none are going on the property at night or anything. The problems early on were vandalism and that was more likely by angry people over the children missing. There are neighbors and cameras so not sure why or how anyone would be doing this. IF they are.
This is a great viewpoint. I hadn't heard about them returning any prior children however after adoption is complete this makes the most sense unfortunately. It has bothered me that the adopters recently bought this new home with only 3 bedrooms yet had 6 children. It would be interesting to know if they are still receiving benefits for these 2 boys even after reporting them missing.
I personally think they are dead. I guess it just strikes me like more than a few cases where children have not been seen for awhile and then parents or someone claims they went missing at a later time. Also, I just think it is the most common sadly. While there is much theory out there about selling children, they still lose the adoption pay I imagine, well, at least if it is known they are gone. Even though three is trafficking, we certainly do not find that to almost ever be the case in most cases of missing children this age.
The thing is there were apparently two foster boys who were returned and that then would leave them with four children for the three bedroom home. Now in my opinion, where that stems from was an interview by a Youtuber with a neighbor in Bakersfield who was getting the adoptive grandmother and adoptive mother mixed up a lot. I feel she may have meant the grandmother.
Someone that is under the delusion they will get out.
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I don't know where they are getting that last part about the Chief stating the other four children saying they saw the boys on the 19th.Again, security footage is nothing we didn't already know. But now the detectives are commenting on it so it's "new". But they also now say that the other children did NOT see the boys the day they disappeared, or the day before.
New Security Cam footage on the days before West boys went missingNew Security Cam footage on the days before West boys went missing
Four-year-old Orrin West and three-year-old Orson West from California City have been missing now for five weeks now. The California City Police Chief is now speaking on security camera footage from a neighbor, from the day the boys went missing. Police Chief Walker says the security cam...
Four-year-old Orrin West and three-year-old Orson West from California City have been missing now for five weeks now.
The California City Police Chief is now speaking on security camera footage from a neighbor, from the day the boys went missing. Police Chief Walker says the security cam footage is consistent with the statements from Trazell and Jacqueline West.
The security camera footage shows on Dec. 21 at 5:33 P.M., Trazell starts looking for the boys around the neighborhood.
Jon Walker, Police Chief for the California City Department, says the boys' adoptive parents claim they left their California City house on Dec. 19 with their six children, to go do Christmas shopping in Bakersfield.
Security camera footage from a neighbor shows an adult holding the door open while four children go into the van. Then later that day two adults, which appear to be Trazell and Jacqueline West, come back to the house without any kids.
Chief Walker says the parents claim they dropped off four of their children, not including Orrin and Orson, at a family member's home that day. Walker says Dec. 19 was the last day the other four children say they saw Orrin and Orson.
Same here. Only because of the fact that only four children got in the van that day.
I was off line most of yesterday and am trying to catch up now. Have watched a few Youtubes where the same thing is being reported but so far it is coming off this same article that states the Chief said the other children said the last time the other kids saw the boys was the 19th and yet I still have not seen a video of the Chief saying that. I saw the one remarking on the other parts of the video and the timeline but not that statement. If the Chief is on film saying that part and I have missed it, someone please let me know where. So far I have yet to find it other than that one article that states that and thus far that is what people are going by elsewhere is that article. I am still looking and watching.
Oh if anything is wrong with it, I am pretty sure they will be hearing it from LE or something. I am not sure there is anything wrong at all, I just wish I could find the part of any interview where the Chief stated that. I have not looked long enough to be sure it was not stated. I guess I am just saying I am not going to log it as fact just yet for me.
Second chance adoptions usually happen when something pops up that wasn't fully disclosed initially. For instance, it may be that an older child has been adopted into a family with younger children and it gets bad. Typically, these children are legally placed up for adoption again. I dunno anything about illegally surrendering children. Any type of financial incentive follows the child.
I knew a couple who adopted a teen and she was a LOT of trouble for them and they "gave her back". I don't know the circumstances on how that was accomplished, I just know I was surprised that is an option.
It is interesting to learn these things as far as the legal processes and even the ones that are not legal. If there is one thing this case is doing out there, it is bringing some real light to adoption, trafficking, financial incentives, and many other issues, etc. that many did not formerly know. Whether any of it applies to this case remains to be seen but it sure seems these two were in it for the paycheck in most people's opinion from what I see. I lean that way hard as well.
How must this feel for a child...