NANCY & JOEY BOCHICCHIO: Mother & daughter shot at Town Center mall, FL - 12 Dec 2007

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2007 Boca Raton mall murders: Watch what police have to say

The slayings of Nancy Bochicchio, 47, and her daughter, Joey Bochicchio-Hauser, 7, shocked the community and drew national attention. They were found bound and shot in an SUV in the parking lot of the Town Center mall shortly before midnight Dec. 12, 2007.

Boca Raton police, in an interview with the Sun Sentinel and a video released Tuesday, are updating the public on what’s known about the Bochicchios’ case and a separate kidnapping likely carried out by the same man.

As the 10-year anniversary nears, finding the killer remains a high priority.

“We’re still working this. We’re going to continue to work this,” says Police Capt. Matthew Duggan, whose agency has combed through more than 2,000 leads. “And if you know something, please come forward.”


According to police’s timeline:

— About 2 p.m., Nancy and Joey entered the mall.
— At 3:11 p.m., they’re seen on surveillance video leaving the mall from the Sears entrance.
— At 3:14 p.m., there was a call from Nancy Bochicchio’s phone to 911, but it immediately hung up. A dispatcher called back within a minute but got no answer.
— At 3:19 p.m., Bochicchio is seen on video surveillance withdrawing money from an ATM right by the mall. “She’s seen taking the money out, and there appear to be people in the back seat of the car,” Duggan says.

Police determined that right after the money was withdrawn, the SUV was back at the mall, with the engine running. Later that night, a mall security guard noticed Bochicchio’s black 2007 Chrysler Aspen parked near the south side of Sears at the mall.

Officers found Nancy and Joey dead, both of them with single gunshot wounds to their heads. “It was apparent to us that they had been, what amounted to, executed in the rear of the vehicle,” Duggan said.

“What was unique about the case is it appeared that they had been bound in a pretty unique manner,” he said. The restraints included handcuffs, zip ties and goggles.

Boca Raton police instantly saw similarities to a kidnapping case that happened at the mall months earlier. “We immediately knew that there were definitely links between that case and the August case,” Duggan says.

 
This is such an odd one. If just a robbery of $500 but the perp returns them to the mall bound and dead .. and leaves vehicle running.. I would almost say it was personal and robbery was a cover/misdirect... And why take them back versus leaving vehicle and then anywhere after arm thing... Or was atm at or near mall...
To me it seems like a sick predator who gets/got a kick out of it. Being that this case is likely connected to several others. Robbery as the only motive? I doubt it, IMO.

The ATM was "right by the mall". BBM below.
— At 3:11 p.m., they’re seen on surveillance video leaving the mall from the Sears entrance.
— At 3:14 p.m., there was a call from Nancy Bochicchio’s phone to 911, but it immediately hung up. A dispatcher called back within a minute but got no answer.
— At 3:19 p.m., Bochicchio is seen on video surveillance withdrawing money from an ATM right by the mall. “She’s seen taking the money out, and there appear to be people in the back seat of the car,” Duggan says.

Police determined that right after the money was withdrawn, the SUV was back at the mall, with the engine running. Later that night, a mall security guard noticed Bochicchio’s black 2007 Chrysler Aspen parked near the south side of Sears at the mall.

Not likely personal with connections to other cases.

Probably a long shot but I hope that maybe they have DNA (he was inside 3 vehicles, after all) and familial DNA will get a hit one of these days.

And again, why did he stop suddenly? Did he realize there were much easier ways to get money? Or was this something else entirely.
 
To me it seems like a sick predator who gets/got a kick out of it. Being that this case is likely connected to several others. Robbery as the only motive? I doubt it, IMO.

The ATM was "right by the mall". BBM below.


Not likely personal with connections to other cases.

Probably a long shot but I hope that maybe they have DNA (he was inside 3 vehicles, after all) and familial DNA will get a hit one of these days.

And again, why did he stop suddenly? Did he realize there were much easier ways to get money? Or was this something else entirely.
Good points.

I knew the case from back when but only read the recent post on an old case and memory wasn't fresh.

Hard to believe it was all about $500 bucks and then you kill a mother and daughter. Imo. No need at all to do that so what was it about?

On the other hand there are criminals that would and probably even with getting $100 or they'd do it for getting no $$.

I wondered if it was by the mall, I couldn't recall.

In MOST cases, I lean as you probably know to personal. I'm not saying there aren't random stranger crimes as there sure are, tons of them but a mom and daughter and he/they got money...

I don't want to point a finger but it could have been a hit. Robbery/ATM thing a cover.

To me leaving the vehicle running I find significant. That's odd. Someone wanted them discovered, the crime discovered?

That too leads me to personal and a few thoughts as to the reason for that. WHY would you leave it running? Or did the mother manage to drive it back and leave it running and then she died...? I don't think so. I haven['t refreshed on this case but I don't recall ever thinking that. The perp/s did right?
 
That too leads me to personal and a few thoughts as to the reason for that. WHY would you leave it running? Or did the mother manage to drive it back and leave it running and then she died...? I don't think so. I haven['t refreshed on this case but I don't recall ever thinking that. The perp/s did right?
Well, in the other case with the Jane Doe and her son...he made her drive to the ATM. (The SAME ATM he made Nancy go to.) But on the way back, he told her to pull over and get in the back seat. And then HE drove them back to the mall.

When she got in the back of the vehicle is when he handcuffed her wrists, zip-tied her ankles and neck (to the headrest), and used darkened out glasses so she couldn't see. Nancy also had handcuffs on her wrists, zip-tied ankles and neck (to the headrest), and darkened out goggles. She and Joey were found shot in the back seats of the vehicle.

I don't think it was personal. The other case was just too similar.
 
Well, in the other case with the Jane Doe and her son...he made her drive to the ATM. (The SAME ATM he made Nancy go to.) But on the way back, he told her to pull over and get in the back seat. And then HE drove them back to the mall.

When she got in the back of the vehicle is when he handcuffed her wrists, zip-tied her ankles and neck (to the headrest), and used darkened out glasses so she couldn't see. Nancy also had handcuffs on her wrists, zip-tied ankles and neck (to the headrest), and darkened out goggles. She and Joey were found shot in the back seats of the vehicle.

I don't think it was personal. The other case was just too similar.
Sorry I guess I missed there was another similar case. Just popped in on this old one with the new posting on it. Or I forgot if I knew. Not sure.

Yeah, that's too hard then to believe otherwise unless someone personally connected had ties to both or wanted to make it look like the other perp to throw suspicion away from the personal connection and in another direction but that's a reach I know.

Kids were killed in both??? Was the other case also a low amount on the ATM withdrawal? Generally you can't get a lot of cash though from an ATM unless doing multiple withdrawals and/or using more than one card.

Why kill tie them and all AND kill them? To I guess ensure no witnesses BUT ATMs have cameras, so do malls. He did the darkened glasses thing to not see him right? Odd. I almost think the thrill then was the kills and the money just a side thing and a bonus and his way of having his own "thing". I mean this sounds almost serial killer-ish. His MO, his sick game...Always a mother with a child... I know you're only talking two crimes but still a similarity also. Clearly the mall didn't have enough or good enough cameras. No hint on how he came to be there, him approaching the vehicle and where he came from, what he drove, etc....?

I guess I thought I was just reading about one crime and that made me think the ATM run was just to throw off LE and I leaned personal. Knowing there were two similar crimes throws that all out the window. So same mall and same ATM?
 
Kids were killed in both??? Was the other case also a low amount on the ATM withdrawal? Generally you can't get a lot of cash though from an ATM unless doing multiple withdrawals and/or using more than one card.
Mother and son survived in the first case.
She took out 3 increments of $200 and was told to take out another but was declined (hit her limit) after the $600. (Nancy took out $500.)

Why kill tie them and all AND kill them? To I guess ensure no witnesses BUT ATMs have cameras, so do malls. He did the darkened glasses thing to not see him right? Odd. I almost think the thrill then was the kills and the money just a side thing and a bonus and his way of having his own "thing". I mean this sounds almost serial killer-ish. His MO, his sick game...Always a mother with a child... I know you're only talking two crimes but still a similarity also. Clearly the mall didn't have enough or good enough cameras. No hint on how he came to be there, him approaching the vehicle and where he came from, what he drove, etc....?
Mother in the first case was interviewed and said she was extremely cooperative, thinking it was the best chance of getting out of the situation alive.
Nancy is thought to have fought back (at least one of her restrains was broken), which may have angered him.
I agree he had a "thing". He definitely targeted mothers with children, probably thinking they'd be more cooperative. Maybe he was just after the money and didn't "want" to kill them. Could be why he stopped. Or he thought the pressure would be on after murder (instead of "just" carjacking & robbery).

I guess I thought I was just reading about one crime and that made me think the ATM run was just to throw off LE and I leaned personal. Knowing there were two similar crimes throws that all out the window. So same mall and same ATM?
The two mothers and children were from the same mall and taken to the same ATM. Randi Gorenberg, the first woman, didn't have an ATM card so she never withdrew any money.

Randi also was carjacked from the same mall's parking garage. Which is suspicious obviously but there are also a lot of differences in her case. She was shot and pushed from her vehicle passenger's seat 5 miles from the mall. But how many perps are going to be operating under the same MO from the same location within months? Could the "difficulties" with the single woman led him to abduct mothers with their children?
 

Cold case murders in Palm Beach County: 10 homicides where the killer hasn't been found​

Nancy and Joey Bochicchio, died Dec. 12, 2007​

Nancy Bochicchio and her daughter Joey were found dead in an idling SUV at the Town Center at Boca Raton mall.


Nancy Bochicchio, 47, and her 7-year-old daughter, Joey, were found shot in an SUV idling in the parking of the Town Center at Boca Raton mall. The mother and daughter were found bound with plastic ties and handcuffs.

Detectives discovered that the Bochicchios had been abducted, taken to an ATM and forced to withdraw $500. The murders occurred months after Randi Gorenberg was abducted from the same mall.

Randi Gorenberg, died March 23, 2007​

A flyer offering a reward for information in the murder of Randi Gorenberg provided by PBSO at a press conference noting the anniversary of the murders of and Cynthia Moffett Thursday, March 23, 2017. The two Palm Beach County women were killed on March 23, one year apart. The murderers have never been found.


Someone killed Randi Gorenberg following a shopping trip to Town Center at Boca Raton. Her body was dumped in the parking lot of the South County Civic Center west of Delray Beach, about 5 miles northwest of the mall.

A witness described hearing gunfire, then seeing a woman pushed out of the passenger side of a black Mercedes-Benz SUV. The SUV, later identified as belonging to Gorenberg, was found that afternoon in the parking lot of Home Depot near Atlantic Avenue and Jog Road.
 

'The Missing Piece:' Unraveling mystery of Boca Raton mall murders 17 years later​

If you say the names Randi Gorenberg or Nancy and Joey Bochicchio to anyone who's lived in Boca Raton for a long time, you will likely see them think back and start to remember tragic events from 2007. That's been my experience each time we've talked with someone for the purposes of a documentary about the 2007 fatal attacks tied to the Town Center at Boca Raton.

There are three incidents spanning about nine months chronicled in the WPTV documentary "The Missing Piece." All three crimes involve mothers who were shopping at the busy, high-end mall in the middle of the day.


There are several questions with no definitive answers when considering three incidents from 2007 with ties to the Town Center at Boca Raton – one of them being, is it the dark and sinister work of one killer?

We spoke with multiple law enforcement officials to dissect that question for the WPTV documentary "The Missing Piece."

"Are they all three connected? There's a possibility," Springer said. "I mean, you look at the odds of, what's the possibility of three people being taken from the mall in the same year?"

Springer is the lead detective in the Randi Gorenberg case from March 2007.

"You have to keep an open mind," Springer said. "When you're working a homicide, you never get tunnel vision."

For Springer, it's hard to overlook the similarities.

"The one I keep coming back to is that they're all three connected, that whoever was doing it had picked the Town Center mall as a place where there's a great hunting ground for victims," Springer said when asked about his prevailing theory. "If you want to look at similarities, there was no apparent sexual assault or attempted sexual battery of any of the victims."

There was one difference when it came to the Gorenberg case. Unlike the August abduction of Jane Doe and the December killings of Nancy and Joey Bochicchio, Gorenberg was not restrained.

"Randi could have been just a learning experience," Springer said. "Maybe he had everything set to do that and then it fell through. So, then he thought, 'Well if I take a woman with a little child, I can control them a lot easier than I could a single woman who's probably going to fight.'"

Retired FBI Special Agent John MacVeigh investigated the three cases and believes all three are connected to one killer.

"Yes, because, you know, the coincidences are way too close," he said. "Nothing before has happened there and nothing after has happened there."

MacVeigh said he doesn't believe the attacks were about money.

"I think the money was just a derivative, a benefit," he said. "I think it's more of a control (thing). You know, you have somebody who is taking the opportunity to control the women."

Springer also believes the motive is rooted in control.

"I still believe that, because to me, there's just not that much money," Springer said. "I mean, he went to a lot of work for a little bit of money."

Boca Raton police Detective Scott Hanley agrees.

"Do I think the motive would have been just the cash? No," he said. "I think there was more to the suspect's planning and, you know, organization that was done on the case."

Why did it stop?

"If someone did something this heinous, cold they have fled? You know, that's a theory," Hanley said. "Could the person still be living in the area and just either changed their modus operandi as to how they're committing crimes? They could have stopped committing crimes. You know, there's a lot of different theories out there on where the suspect could be."
 

Documentary links Swedish killer to infamous unsolved Boca Raton mall murders. Police say he’s not the guy​


A Swedish serial shooter named Peter Mangs lived in Boca Raton on and off and frequented the Town Center mall around the same time as the infamous Boca Mall murders took place, according to a new documentary, which claims that Mangs could be the killer police have been looking for over the last 16 years.

A three-part series called “Under the Radar” follows a Swedish documentarian named John Mork and a former investigator, now TV personality, Jim Rathmann as they seek to unravel clues left by Mangs, a musician-turned-killer, about murders that he may have committed in Florida and for which they say he was never charged.

The documentary, named for one of Mangs’ unsettling songs, was released Tuesday on the ViaPlay streaming service, which “specializes in the best in Nordic and European crime dramas, thrillers, dramedies, and documentaries.”

Mangs is often described as a “lone wolf terrorist” who typically targeted immigrants in racially motivated shootings across the Swedish city of Malmo. Researchers believe he began his radicalization in South Florida. He is now in prison in Sweden, where at least 15 killings are linked to him.

His father, Rudolf Mangs, who researchers believe may have contributed to his radicalization with his own anti-immigrant sentiment while the two were in Florida, still lives in Boca Raton, according to the documentary team.

Mork and Rathmann use pictures, song lyrics and letters from Mangs about his time in Florida to conclude that seven unsolved murders in places from The Keys to Plantation could be linked to him. But out of all the cases they bring up, they believe the Boca Raton mall killings have the clearest connection to Mangs, who spent time in the mall, according to a friend’s diaries, often stayed with his father, who lives minutes away, and shares a resemblance, some say, to a sketch artist rendering of the possible killer.

Mork became obsessed with Mangs and kept up correspondence with him through letters, ultimately planning to confront him in prison and get him to confess to the crimes, but that never happened.

Eventually, Mork and Rathmann took their findings to the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office and Boca Raton Police, the lead agencies on the Town Center mall murders. In the documentary, detectives appear open to the theory. However, they later determined that there was no connection between Mangs and the murders, spokespeople for the Sheriff’s Office and Boca Raton Police told the South Florida Sun Sentinel.

“We don’t have evidence to support he is our suspect,” said Teri Barbera, a spokesperson for PBSO. “(Detectives) are not willing to give me anything specific, but we have no evidence to support that he’s our suspect ultimately, so he’s been ruled out.”

Mork and Rathmann argued that police shut them out and may have never fully investigated their leads, which include an abandoned house near the Spanish River drawbridge that Mangs led them to through clues and where they claim there could be human remains.

“Boca Raton PD’s gonna need to speak to what it is that they have or have not done,” Rathmann said. “I know we provided them some information they didn’t know before.”

Mork’s interest in Florida is spurred by a confession that he says Mangs once made to a psychiatrist who got to know him over the course of his time in prison. He told her that he had killed two people in Florida.

The psychiatrist never got the chance to speak to him about this again before she died, but she told Mork about the confession. Thus began his expedition from Sweden to South Florida.


What was Mangs up to?​

By the time 2007 had rolled around, Mangs had already begun to kill. He fatally shot two men in Sweden in 2003, both chosen at random, because of their Arabic sounding last names, according to Gardell. But he was far from done.

Two years after the Boca Raton mall murders, in 2009, Mangs began a yearlong shooting spree in Sweden. He shot at immigrants, Muslims and Jews, with the idea that the crimes would start a race war. His only known white victim was a 20-year-old woman, who he shot three times late at night while she was sitting in a car with a man of foreign descent. Mangs later said that his goal was to punish a white woman for betraying her race.

Mork and Rathmann believe Mangs had the means and motive to commit the Town Center mall killings, which could have been racially motivated despite the victims being white. They say that passport information provided by Swedish authorities puts Mangs in Florida at the time of the murders, while diary entries and photos show that he had spent time at the mall, among other locations linked to unsolved deaths. Similar to the killings in Boca Raton, Mangs had taken one of his victims’ cards and pin codes, according to the documentary.

Multiple people interviewed in the documentary said that the sketch created with the help of Jane Doe looks eerily similar to Mangs. Though he was bald in many of his pictures, he did have a ponytail around the time of the murders, Mork said.

A sketch of the suspect in the Town Center mall murders next to a picture of Peter Mangs. (A Rabbit Hole productions/Courtesy)

“Some of his motivation was robbery, too,” Rathmann said. “You know, ‘give me your credit card numbers, what’s the pin,’ things like that … so that fits when you take what he did in Sweden to what he does in the United States. There’s a lot of similarities that can link him to both.”

But the mall killings also appear to diverge from Mangs’ modus operandi. In Sweden, Mangs often shot from hiding places or far away, and did not kidnap his victims. Even though he lived near the Town Center mall, the zip ties used on the victims were purchased in Miami. And nearly all of Mangs’ known victims had darker skin.

Mork thinks if his goal was to start a race war, Mangs could have committed the mall attacks to instill fear in the community.

“The thing with lone wolf strategy is to make the public fear, you know, create chaos,” he said. “Nobody should be able to feel safe, and the victim doesn’t always have to be a certain ethnicity.”

Throughout the documentary, Mork and Rathmann meet with notable figures in local law enforcement and present them with their evidence, including Palm Beach County State Attorney Dave Aronberg and lead detectives on the Boca Raton mall case.

They also hired Michael Gauger, a former chief deputy at the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office who was acquainted with the investigation at the time, as a consultant to help them dig up information. Gauger introduced Mork and Rathmann to PBSO Detective Bill Springer, the lead investigator in the Gorenberg case.

Mork and Rathmann also met with Boca Raton Police later, though they described the meeting as tense: The detectives barely spoke a word or made a facial expression when they presented the evidence, Rathmann said.

“They just looked at us like they’re burning a hole right through us,” he said. “So I don’t know if they just don’t want the fact that there’s outsiders that came in and helped out with the case, and I’m not trying to speak negatively to it, it just was very odd in actions.”

Ultimately, detectives in both agencies decided Mangs was not the guy, according to spokespeople.

“I didn’t hear exact reasons why, but nobody thought there was involvement in it,” Gauger told the South Florida Sun Sentinel.

Barbera also declined to get into specifics, citing the active investigation, though she said that detectives had evidence to indicate that Mangs was not the suspect. She also seemed to think that he was not in the area at the time of the murders.

“Whatever evidence they got from the scene, this individual is not their suspect,” Barbera said.



Mork and Rathmann haven’t given up on the idea that Mangs has victims in South Florida. They are now working on season two, following up on their investigations in the area and focusing on another relative of Mangs who also lived nearby but who they declined to identify for now.

They hope that, at the very least, the documentary might jog someone’s memory.

“Maybe there’s something they saw, maybe they recognized Peter,” Rathmann said. “Maybe somebody had a strange interaction with Peter back in that time that would help connect. You never know where you’re going to get that one little piece of information that puts it all together.”
 
If that psychiatrist was alive she should be charged and lose her license. What right did she have to share a patient's confession to someone who is not LE at minimum.

I am going to guess only after she died, he figured he could claim she told him this.

The man is still alive so she'd definitely have no right to "tell" some documentation filmmaker or whatever he is about this.

And imo he has no right to use it and call the show a documentary when there is nothing to back it up at least in my quick read. And was provided to him when it should NOT have been IF even true.

I'll reserve my opinion, based on that, on whether I'd think it worth watching. The answer can be guessed. Jmo.
 

17 YEARS LATER: Murders of Nancy and Joey Bochicchio in Boca Raton remain unsolved​

There's a heaviness in the South Florida community of Boca Raton as Thursday marks 17 years since the murders of Nancy and Joey Bochicchio.

Boca Raton police detectives confirmed to WPTV News anchor Ashley Glass there have been tips called in about the case as recently as a few weeks ago.

"As technology changes and evolves regarding DNA testing, this case is continuously being reevaluated. We remain optimistic that technological advances will lead our investigators to a breakthrough in the investigation," said Jessica Desir, a spokesperson for the Boca Raton Police Department.
 

A string of murders and kidnappings at a luxury Florida mall share one common feature: Retired FBI Agent​

It has been 18 years since a South Florida neighborhood was rocked by a series of killings and a kidnapping at a local mall, and a retired FBI agent who worked on the investigations for more than a decade believes the crimes are linked and that the killer is still “out there.”

Randi Gorenberg and Nancy Bochicchio, mother of two, and her 7-year-old daughter Joey were murdered after shopping at the Boca Raton Town Center Mall, and another woman, Jane Doe, was kidnapped with her 2-year-old son, all within nine months in 2007.

“I heard about them just like everybody else on the news, and it was just horrible,” retired FBI Agent John MacVeigh, who investigated the three cases for 10 years, told Fox News Digital. “We contacted Boca Police Department, knowing that it was something that, you know, we could assist.”


As a private investigator, MacVeigh saw a common thread in all three attacks on the local mall.

“The suspect was trying to control women,” he explained. In both the Jane Doe and Bochicchio cases, the suspect used a pair of blacked-out swim goggles, as well as other material, to bind and control the victims.

MacVeigh said another repeated detail was the time of day. All three crimes took place in “broad daylight” and “right around the same time.”

“It’s not a small little coincidence. There’s not … one or two small things. This is an accumulation of things,” he added, referring to the related details among the cases.


Although two people of interest were first identified in the Bochicchio case, police say all three cases remain unsolved, and MacVeigh believes the crimes are linked.

“It’s just so hard to believe that it’s not the same person,” MacVeigh said. “Three of these incidences … in the same area, and very similar. Here you have a very affluent mall … and, you know, you are targeting people that you suspect have money.

“While there is presently no physical or forensic evidence directly linking this case to any other investigations, there are enough similarities to lead Boca Raton investigators to believe this case is related to the August 7, 2007, Town Center Mall carjacking incident,” the Boca Raton Police Department states on its website, referring to the Bochicchio murders being related to the Jane Doe abduction.

MacVeigh said he continues to receive calls from detectives who are still looking for new clues and working on the case now.

“As technology changes and evolves regarding DNA testing, this case is continuously being reevaluated. We remain optimistic that technological advances will lead our investigators to a breakthrough in the investigation,” Jessica Desir, a spokesperson for the Boca Raton Police Department, told WPTV last month regarding the Bochicchio murders.

MacVeigh explained that, while the Boca Raton Town Center Mall may have stronger security measures in place today, a killer is still “out there, probably committing other crimes.
 
None of these women were raped were they if I recall? I wonder how unusual that is with a man who does this for control of the women... He thinks the motive was control anyhow.
 

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