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Discussion on Serial Killers, Spree Killers, Mass Killers, And single event killers. (4 Viewers)

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To start. I have always found Serial Killers fascinating. What makes them do what they do?. I know I am not the only one. This is the place to talk about it. I'll start. Who do you find the most fascinating and why?.
 
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You know I listened to her but can't recall if she explained it or not. She did say there were TWO different blankets and made it clear she was not talking of the ONE in one case but ANOTHER one. I'd have to guess it was in a photograph OR in items they dug up but more likely the photograph because I do recall her or the show's host saying or both that she has seen pictures that NONE OF US HAVE.
I remember her talking about two blankets- both in photos Rader took- but one is of no evidentiary interest, it just happened to appear in the photo that Kerri recognized was taken in her grandparent's basement. (I think it was the grandparent's basement, lol! It was the grandparent's or their own.)

So the years don't match...? I thought the laundry deal was one of these new ones they are looking at, is it Garber or the other one? I am getting confused. Who is Rathbun? And are they known to be looking at him for that or is she mentioned just by Kerri?
Garber is the case in Missouri that authorities are looking into as a potential BTK case and to my knowledge, that's the case in which a blanket could be evidence of such..
Re Rathbun, do you remember Kerri describing a woman pushing some sort of a cart or buggy with laundry who went missing and was later found murdered somewhere near or under a bridge? I hadn't known of the case until she spoke about it and I haven't been able to find any info to speak of about it. Anyway, if LE's looking into that case, I'm not aware of it.
 
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Are you saying you aren't blocking the name but the site or mods are or something? I don't know what case is being referred to since it doesn't show.
Yeah, I don't know what's causing asterisks to appear. Sorry about that. Below is a link to articles about the case.
http://genealogytrails.com/kan/sedgwick/***ers.html
 
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Is there a word or part of a word that is a "cuss word" in the link? Some naughty language gets censored, regardless of if it's included in a different word.

My suggestion? Insert the link as part of a hyperlink. Type something like LINK IS HERE. Then highlight it, click the little "insert link" button, and paste the link and click Insert. That may bypass the censoring.
 
I remember her talking about two blankets- both in photos Rader took- but one is of no evidentiary interest, it just happened to appear in the photo that Kerri recognized was taken in her grandparent's basement. (I think it was the grandparent's basement, lol! It was the grandparent's or their own.)


Garber is the case in Missouri that authorities are looking into as a potential BTK case and to my knowledge, that's the case in which a blanket could be evidence of such..
Re Rathbun, do you remember Kerri describing a woman pushing some sort of a cart or buggy with laundry who went missing and was later found murdered somewhere near or under a bridge? I hadn't known of the case until she spoke about it and I haven't been able to find any info to speak of about it. Anyway, if LE's looking into that case, I'm not aware of it.
Yeah I forget one is like black and white checked and the other black and red and white or grey and white and red or some such. She emphasized to not confuse them, she wasn't talking of the one blanket but another one. I don't know, there has been so much I admit confusion. I know about the laundry woman but am not straight on whether it is this case, that case or the other case. I don't remember anything about a bridge. I THOUGHT when she talked of this blanket she was talking of these they are looking into, Garber, who is the other Kinney or something and then there was a new one she couldn't talk of or some such but the blanket I thought related to the two they are talking of these days.

I probablly have it mixed up but in my defense, she was talking of the blanket in the same show she was talking Garber, etc. and other murders and I thought it related to one of those two.
 
Yeah, I don't know what's causing asterisks to appear. Sorry about that. Below is a link to articles about the case.
That didn't work for me either. Try separating the letters of the name of the case. For instance if I talk of Rader's serial killer name, and don't want it searched by him, I put B T K although honestly I try never to use his SK name. If I talk the feds I sometimes put the f e d s.
 
I almost didn't but then when I realized it was a clip as she said and not that long I did. I personally feel he is okay as he is BUT yes it is sad, the loss he had and who he thought is brother was and then came to deal with is heartbreaking. I idolized my much older siblings growing up. I can tell he did the same. He visited his bro in Seattle, we used to visit my sister in Mpls. on summer break. I still remember much fondly, his memories must be tainted now as he kind of said.

Mel said the names and who the siblings were has been kept very quiet, I wonder why he has changed that. Maybe he thought it is just the time, just adding to others showing what the families of the killer deal with.
He had "Sisters". So at least 2. IIRC There was only one brother. Allegedly, As a teenager he raped a sister. Louise Bundy was in such denial. Saying he was the perfect son. Yeah. Like torturing cats, And setting up tiger traps that a girl fell into and sliced open the outside of her leg. I can understand a parent not wanting to accept their son is a kidnapping, Rapist of even of a 12 year old, Necrophiliac. But came the time investigators brought a voice tape of his confessions. Then she had to. But right after the tape was done she said..."Who wants apple pie and ice cream?". I never heard anything about her being harassed. But I am sure she was. Louise lived with her parents. She got pregnant. A big no no then. So her parents raised him saying they were his parents and Louse was his sister. The father was a serviceman in the
war and not much is known about him. Well.....Teddy found his birth certificate and the information he was legally adopted. He said that traumatized him. As if that was a viable reason to do what he did l
Then he said it was pornography. He admitted in his last days he did it "Because I wanted to".
 
Interesting again. The sketch of the woman in the green dress they think is a woman from Galena Kansas possibly...
I was wondering how I heard of Galena, KS. It was a legend of a famous bordello that catered to miners. The madam and 2 men are said to have murdered approximately 30 men. Then threw them down mine shafts. When I looked it up. I can't think of another reason I would have heard of a Kansas town of 1,000 people.
 
He had "Sisters". So at least 2. IIRC There was only one brother. Allegedly, As a teenager he raped a sister. Louise Bundy was in such denial. Saying he was the perfect son. Yeah. Like torturing cats, And setting up tiger traps that a girl fell into and sliced open the outside of her leg. I can understand a parent not wanting to accept their son is a kidnapping, Rapist of even of a 12 year old, Necrophiliac. But came the time investigators brought a voice tape of his confessions. Then she had to. But right after the tape was done she said..."Who wants apple pie and ice cream?". I never heard anything about her being harassed. But I am sure she was. Louise lived with her parents. She got pregnant. A big no no then. So her parents raised him saying they were his parents and Louse was his sister. The father was a serviceman in the
war and not much is known about him. Well.....Teddy found his birth certificate and the information he was legally adopted. He said that traumatized him. As if that was a viable reason to do what he did l
Then he said it was pornography. He admitted in his last days he did it "Because I wanted to".
What the mother does even though seeming to be denial and simply an oh all is fine (denial) who wants pie kind of persona, is seemingly innocent and passive. However, in its way it is so dangerous and contributed I would think to an atmosphere of no matter what he did, it would all be ignored and a surface picture would be maintained without question. This didn't happen, that didn't happen, or if faced to see it did happen, one minute later we will forget it, sweep it under our Bundy rug, and it's gone, never to be brought out again and now let's go get some dinner shall we? The perfect son and no matter what he did, he wash still perfect. In some way it almost would make one think did he keep pushing the boundaries to see if no matter what, he wash still perfect. He was a surface acting person too, all polished, friendly, etc. right, while underneath that Bundy rug, he is evil personified. I don't know what I am saying except there is something there. due to the mother, etc. Not an EXCUSE but a knowing he coudln't go too far as to where she was concerned or a testing of if anything would shake her belief in her perfect son?

So was this brother we see now also considered perfect? Were the sisters?

Clearly this was a cover up family, concerned about what society would think which is ironic. Concealing an out of wedlock birth, a rape of a sister, torture of cats, etc., that isn't denial even I don't think, it is a way of doing things probably well instilled from at least the grandparents on down, probably expected and even demanded. We aren't any psych experts but she probably felt a lot of guilt over Ted and the fact she got pregnant with him and couldn't be his "known" mother? I assume the adoption was by his grandparents you mean? I seem to recall that...

None of it excuses or even explains of course what Ted was. I sense in Crybaby Shrek's case there is something in that family too. It just nags at me, just the surface facts. There is such little info which I find interesting like on his father dying, and how, and how his mother raised them after. Apparent his father (and mother or just father?) lived with his parents (grandparents) as adults in the Long Island home and more.... His father died young and there is no hint his mother ever remarried. How did she support and raise her children? If I recall correctly, an obit could be found on the grandfather but not on the father. An aerospace engineer and a carpenter. I'm very tired and very befuddled lol, went to bed at 9 and up at midnght, I can't even recover when I finally get a day off after working six long ones but do we even know if his parents were married?? I think we do because there are siblings so they must have been, etc. but I am just saying there's such a lack of info. This is a HUGE case and with all the sleuths out there, nothing much has come out or been found out about his father's death, more info on his brother in SC who had the vehicle, etc. It is all so ODD. One thing I do know is that house has never changed hands or been sold and not been in the hands of a Heurman for decades on end if EVER since it was built.. Until now at least. He may still own it but it is now occupied by his wife, not a blood Heurman male...

I'm sidetracking but not really since this is an SK thread. We started with Rader and came to Bundy and now I am talking Shrek. LOL.
 
The first three letters of the family's name spell a slang word for homosexual male.
I just woke up. Up at midnight, back to bed at like 4:30 and up again now. I must be overworked, overtired, etc. because for the life of me I just read this and not a single word pops into my head except one that covers homosexuality generally and that's the only word I am coming up with. Is it the word that also means happy/fun? And it can't be said?
 
Yeah I forget one is like black and white checked and the other black and red and white or grey and white and red or some such. She emphasized to not confuse them, she wasn't talking of the one blanket but another one. I don't know, there has been so much I admit confusion. I know about the laundry woman but am not straight on whether it is this case, that case or the other case. I don't remember anything about a bridge. I THOUGHT when she talked of this blanket she was talking of these they are looking into, Garber, who is the other Kinney or something and then there was a new one she couldn't talk of or some such but the blanket I thought related to the two they are talking of these days.

I probablly have it mixed up but in my defense, she was talking of the blanket in the same show she was talking Garber, etc. and other murders and I thought it related to one of those two.
Well you know there were two Surviving The Survivor episodes I've seen in which she spoke of some of the same cases/evidence but yes, the blanket is potentially linked to the Garber case. The thing is, in some of Rader's photographs, he'd re-enacted crime scenes and it's believed he re-enacted the Garber crime scene based on what the actual crime scene looked like. Now as I understand it, in the re-enactment photo, there's a blanket that wasn't at the actual scene and so it's at least speculated that it had been there but that he took it with him.
 
Well you know there were two Surviving The Survivor episodes I've seen in which she spoke of some of the same cases/evidence but yes, the blanket is potentially linked to the Garber case. The thing is, in some of Rader's photographs, he'd re-enacted crime scenes and it's believed he re-enacted the Garber crime scene based on what the actual crime scene looked like. Now as I understand it, in the re-enactment photo, there's a blanket that wasn't at the actual scene and so it's at least speculated that it had been there but that he took it with him.
I do recall a lot of this per Kerri comes from the pictures and the fact they are re-enactments and so the ones that aren't known as crime re-enactments, they figure ARE also re-ensactments. Didn't recall though if that was how the blanket belief came about so that makes sense. And she claimed it is NOT the one known of but another one. Right?

Does anyone hear mind, you included, if hereon we refer to Surviving the Survivor as STS? Because it is a pain in the butt to type each time imo lol and it is the show Kerri is constantly on so it would save some trouble. I type well but for some reason that one seems like a royal pain in the butt to type every time I want to refer to them which is a fair amount of the time again, because she is a regular on their show. :)
 
I just woke up. Up at midnight, back to bed at like 4:30 and up again now. I must be overworked, overtired, etc. because for the life of me I just read this and not a single word pops into my head except one that covers homosexuality generally and that's the only word I am coming up with. Is it the word that also means happy/fun? And it can't be said?
Lol! The British used it as a slang word for a cigarette.
 
Lol! The British used it as a slang word for a cigarette.
OMG I had to google it and THEN like BAM. Haven't heard that word in so long. And slow on the uptake, man I need more than a day off here and there a month. I still don't get why the program would * it. I mean I just used the name Nassau and the word arse so to speak is in it. Let's see if I say the buyers dickered over the item. Will it * out dick? I mean the name isn't just those three letters is it? So I know the first three then right? Can you give me the ending? As I don't want to go google that word only, Lord knows what results I will get.
 

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