Who is the LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER? *ARREST JULY 2023*

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Who is the Long Island serial killer? This is a general discussion thread about this terrifying case.


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I get it. I needed to be reminded it was for the burner phone and then I realized I did know of that before. Hard to keep all in mind in various cases sometimes. I know I have troubles with it.
Yeah, the fact that he used burner phones was the last thing on my mind, never mind how he paid for them, lol.
 
Well although I said IMO, when you see Spota and Burke both serving prison terms, it makes me feel stronger than just an opinion. Turning a blind eye comes to mind.
Why would they turn a blind eye?
To my knowledge, those two didn't cover-up for or help other people, only each other, lol.
 
Well although I said IMO, when you see Spota and Burke both serving prison terms, it makes me feel stronger than just an opinion. Turning a blind eye comes to mind.
So you mean you think he knew someone say in the PD or some such? And they knew it was him or felt it was pointing to him at least and purposely buried things? Not sure if that's what you mean but if it is, that has crossed my mind too over the years. I mean they were so bad that it was hard to decide if they were involved or just covering or most people figure Burke just didn't want anyone so close like the feds to find out what HE was up to and they put it down to that and figure that's all it was. I've always wondered though.

It's the problem with corrupt cops and such and it's why in my opinion they need to keep their noses clean because otherwise people never know if they are simply covering up their own wrongdoings or it goes deeper and they are part of something and so on.

i've been back and forth on it over the years. Gilbert REALLY bothers me. I get she could have been on drugs, given drugs but I just don't feel like that's what her phone call was, never have.

Vergata, enter a cop, if a true story swinging with Mr. and Mrs. CB. Picking up a down and out prostitute. BUt here we have a cop again.

I've kind of tried to stay out of the weeds of all that stuff lately because it just well, I'm not sure, I mean CB appears to be mostly a lone wolf with his planning document and you name it and picking women up on his own supposedly when wife and kids gone and using his own home most likely and so on, but yeah I mean it's hard to ignore and a blind eye could be one thing for sure.

I think of him as not having many friends but he77 they allegedly hung out at the swinger's club and so on. We honestly don't know if that is fact as for some reason, Tierney nor anyone seems to have wanted to verify this story yet one way or another.

I really don't want to go into this stuff lol but another thing that's possible is CB and Burke likely both cruised for prostitutes. Maybe they encountered each other, or knew the other did so as well is all I mean. I mean CB also called escorts, etc. but there are hints he also cruised IF true right?

I dont know. This stuff has been looked at or thought about off and on over time here (even before) and I dont know if we will ever get an answer. I used to get the impression there is an entire group doing these things, parties, hookers (sorry sex workers) and such on Long Island at least for sure but I think a lot of that came from John Ray. I just recall it was a pervasive thought that was out there from somewhere even way back before this thread. I guess the other problem is it isn't too hard to believe... Because PLUS looking at Burke for instance and his sex obsessions... I mean these men are heads of things...

I guess I'm trying to talk through it and see if I get anywhere but i never do--it's been a discussion for a long time...

I guess one thing I'd say is when one person has something on another or they both do on the other, much less a bunch of people on each other, then what happens......? You either all keep your mouths shut and cover for someone or you are going down too.... Because any can rat the other out but you all are doing bad things so ideally you just shut up, blind eye, cover....?
 
Why would they turn a blind eye?
To my knowledge, those two didn't cover-up for or help other people, only each other, lol.
I dont know. I just posted a bit about it. Hey they had cops too covering for them and so on. Supposedly some of the bad ones are still left and there.

I guess it is a good reason and lesson why cops and heads of departments and you name it need to be clean. I'm not much of a conspiracy person but we sure see it used lately in a case or two against them and for a defense, etc.

There's been a LOT of talk in this one over the years. And well my opinion of the NYC area is pretty low but then I remind myself that it's a huge metropolis and is it realistic...

BUT a lot of bad has gone down there and it is a major epicenter and this focuses a lot here on Manhattan, Long Island, Suffolk County definitely.... Sex workers. Escorts.

I don't know....

What I do know is the evidence seems to be pretty solid on CB/RH. So I got away from the weeds of this other stuff and try to stay with that but it's all still there. I mean even that atty Asa was instantly with, they all connect...

LOL I give up. It's just like for instance Daybell, there is possibly a lot more beyond but right now these cases are narrowed down to CB/RH and the evidence seems to be there solidly. However, the way evidence or tips were missed and a corrupt admin and you name it, is still there. Rumors. More.

I'll tell you one thing I do think is that to be in LE or over LE even should have some high requirements but we don't. I think it should be one of the highest requirement kind of jobs. Of course then there are appointments and some are elected and it can be anyone... but lol thats another subject entirely.
 
Updated April 2025
Karen Vergata missing Feb 14th 1996
Alicia Reynolds, 2nd March 1996, VA
Tanya Denise Jackson, 26, found 28th June 1997 (aka "Peaches" - due to a tattoo) and her two-year-old daughter Tatiana Marie Dykes (aka Baby "Peaches" ) found in April 2011, both were identified in April 2025 by Nassau County LE.
Victoria Camara, 2003
Misty Marie Saens, 2003
Jodi Marie Brewer, 19 Aug 2003
Lindsay Marie Harris, 2003
Jessica Edith Louise Foster, 2006
(Above 5 victims from Las Vegas )
Tracy Ann Roberts, 23, Oct 2006
Kim Raffo, 35, 21st Nov 2006
Barbara Breidor, 42, Nov 2006
Molly Dilts, 19, Nov 2006
(Above four victims from Atlantic City )
Cherries (2007)
Tanya Rush (2008)
Shannan Gilbert May 2010 disc Dec 2011
Asian male discovered April 2011
Aaliyah Bell, Rock Hill, SC Nov 2014
So just bringing this list forward again. So if CB stopped killing in LI , was it around 2012? After Shannon Gilbert was found and Burke and Spota had been jailed.
 
I think it might be a good idea to post this article. It has probably been posted before but is good to recap.


"Loyalty was currency, and at one 2015 meeting Mr. Spota said that any police officers who flipped were “dead,” and “would never work in Suffolk County again,” according to court records. The “men in charge” — Mr. Burke, Mr. Spota and Mr. McPartland — called themselves “the administration,” Mr. Hickey testified.

Detectives who knew of the 2012 assault of the man, Christopher Loeb, who had stolen Mr. Burke’s duffel bag, testified that they were afraid to come forward in part because Mr. Spota, Mr. McPartland and Mr. Burke were powerful and could retaliate against them and their families.

“If you crossed Tom Spota, Chris McPartland, Jimmy Burke, you crossed all,” Mr. Hickey, who pleaded guilty to conspiracy to obstruct justice for his role in the scheme, testified at trial. “They will destroy you. Personally, financially, criminally. They will go after your family.”

He added, “They know no bounds.”

Mr. Loeb had been burglarizing cars when he took the bag from Mr. Burke’s vehicle. Among the bag’s contents were sex toys, cigars, and pornography on DVD — items the chief of one of the largest police departments in the United States did not want anyone to know he had.

When Mr. Burke found out that Mr. Loeb had been apprehended and his items had been recovered, he drove to Mr. Loeb’s home. He retrieved some of his property, which according to protocol should have been cataloged as evidence, and then drove to the police station where detectives he had handpicked were interrogating Mr. Loeb. Mr. Burke then physically assaulted Mr. Loeb, who had already been slapped by the detectives.

In court on Tuesday, Mr. Loeb, 34, stood before the judge “as a man with purpose,” he said. “Nobody should have this much power,” he read from a prepared statement. “Thomas Spota should spend the rest of his life behind bars.”

Mr. Loeb suggested every case Mr. Spota tried be re-evaluated, and said the former district attorney had “infested Suffolk County with corruption.”

Witnesses described Mr. Spota’s relationship with Mr. Burke as akin to a father and son, or a mentor and protégé. Mr. Hickey called Mr. Spota “Burke’s fiercest defender and protector.” During closing arguments, Mr. Spota’s lawyer, Alan Vinegrad, referred to the former police chief as, “Tom Spota’s professional child, of sorts.”

“Wanting to help Jimmy Burke is not a crime,” Mr. Vinegrad said. “Being a concerned professional parent of sorts, believing your professional child would never have done such a crazy and stupid thing as walking into a police station house in broad daylight and assaulting a prisoner, being concerned is not a crime.”

Per Mr. Hickey’s description, Mr. McPartland and Mr. Burke were best friends. It was a different dynamic, but a significant one.

“Chris would be the first person that Burke would turn to when he was in trouble,” Mr. Hickey said.

The convictions of Mr. Spota and Mr. McPartland followed a series of high-profile corruption cases on Long Island.

In 2017, former Suffolk County Conservative Party head Edward Walsh was convicted of wire fraud and theft of government services — crimes committed while serving as a lieutenant for the Suffolk County Sheriff’s Department. Two years later, across county lines, former Nassau County Executive Edward P. Mangano and his wife, Linda, were convicted of federal corruption charges that included bribery and wire fraud. Mr. Spota and Mr. McPartland were convicted months later.

The prosecution’s case against Mr. Spota and Mr. McPartland involved a web of phone records, which prosecutor Lara Treinis Gatz said showed Mr. Burke making calls from cellphones that were not his, while Mr. Spota was concerned that his communications were being bugged.

“These people are prosecutors,” Ms. Gatz said during the trial. “They are acutely aware of investigative techniques and how to thwart them.”

Mr. Hickey was the detectives’ direct supervisor and as such could communicate with them without raising suspicion. He was a strategic choice, prosecutors said, because he had a history of alcoholism and lying that would make it easy for defense attorneys to discredit his testimony in the courtroom.

But that plan also backfired. The jury believed Mr. Hickey’s account.

Speaking outside the courthouse after the sentencing on Tuesday, Nicole Boeckmann, an assistant U.S. attorney who prosecuted the case, said Mr. Spota and Mr. McPartland had corrupted the institution they led.

“Their insidious alliance with James Burke, and their willingness to protect him at all cost, perpetuated the notion that prominent public officials, no matter how corrupt, are untouchable — that they are above the law,” Ms. Boeckmann said. “Today, we know that not to be true.” "
 
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I managed to copy this article. It is interesting background and fills in some blanks in the investigation. This was written before Peaches was identified.

CULTURE

A serial killer eluded police for years. We finally understand why.

Netflix’s new docuseries Gone Girls delivers a scathing verdict on the investigation into the Gilgo Beach murders.
by Aja Romano
Updated Apr 10, 2025, 5:19 PM GMT+1

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The stretch of Ocean Parkway on Long Island Shore where many of Rex Heuermann’s alleged victims were located.
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Aja Romano

Aja Romano writes about pop culture, media, and ethics. Before joining Vox in 2016, they were a staff reporter at the Daily Dot. A 2019 fellow of the National Critics Institute, they’re considered an authority on fandom, the internet, and the culture wars.
The arrest of Rex Heuermann, allegedly the infamous Long Island serial killer, makes for riveting drama in Netflix’s latest true crime docuseries Gone Girls — but while the series focuses on the victims and sheds light on Heuermann himself, viewers may find themselves more fascinated by another important facet of the investigation: just how close the case came to never being solved at all.
The new series from Liz Garbus spends time on LISK’s first four located victims and the long search for justice their families undertook. These women — Melissa Barthelemy, Amber Lynn Costello, Maureen Brainard-Barnes, and Megan Waterman — were originally known as the “Gilgo Four” because they were all found along the same stretch of Long Island’s Ocean Parkway near Gilgo Beach in 2010 and 2011 during a search for another missing woman, Shannan Gilbert.
In 2023, Heuermann was arrested for the murders of the Gilgo Four. Since Gone Girls wrapped, he’s been charged with three additional murders — those of Jessica Taylor, Valerie Mack, and one woman, Sandra Costilla, who’d long been thought to be the victim of an entirely different serial killer. Because these arrests happened after or near the end of Gone Girls filming, the documentary doesn’t spend much time at all on these three women. It spends even less time on LISK’s four other probable victims, three of whom are currently still unidentified. With the investigations into the first seven murders wrapping up, it’s uncertain what will happen to these final four cases.
Here’s a look at the main new details we learned from the docuseries and more about what we didn’t.

Local authorities could have solved the murders much, much earlier than they did

For years, the Suffolk County Police, under the leadership of longtime Chief James Burke, fielded criticism for botching the LISK case, even as the case became national news, an infamous true crime mystery, and a frequent topic of true crime docuseries— even a previous Netflix docudrama. But just how badly they botched it didn’t become clear until the investigation was in new hands.
Once the old guard was no longer in the picture, the new investigation ramped up with remarkable speed. In 2018, a new police chief took over and promptly restarted the investigation. In 2020, authorities released the most famous piece of evidence in the case — the belt buckle found at the Brainard-Barnes crime scene. Then, in 2021, came yet another new police chief, Rodney Harrison. Shortly after assuming office, he announced a new task force dedicated to solving the crime.
Harrison’s task force, working from an abundance of phone records tied to the suspect’s trove of burner phones, identified Heuermann within just six weeks of starting to look for him.
Why, under Burke’s tenure, in one of the highest-profile serial killer cases in American history, wouldn’t police have done the bare minimum and traced the phone records of a suspect?
Gone Girls makes clear that the answer boils down to hubris and corruption. Between May 2010 and December 2011, the time between when Shannan Gilbert went missing and was ultimately found, authorities had actively investigated the case, repeatedly searching the marshlands along the shore and eventually locating the remains of 11 victims, including Gilbert. Yet progress stalled when Burke, a longtime protégé of the county prosecutor Thomas Spota, took office in 2012. Burke spent years refusing to work with the FBI, which, according to the documentary, had initially taken the lead on investigating the phone records. When communication between the feds and the cops broke down, so, too, it seemed, did the investigation itself.
But Burke had bigger problems. He spent most of his tenure as police chief attempting to cover up the brutal beating of a suspect after a bizarre 2012 incident. The suspect, Christopher Loeb, allegedly stole a gym bag full of sex toys and porn from Burke’s SUV, not realizing it belonged to the police chief.
Burke reacted by sending a horde of officers to Loeb’s residence to arrest him and locking him up for the next 48 hours. Burke visited Loeb’s house himself and removed a litany of items, including sex toys. He and other officers physically assaulted Loeb repeatedly, denied him access to his attorney, threatened to arrest and sexually assault Loeb’s mother, and choked him to unconsciousness, all while falsifying police reports about the arrest, according to court records.
Burke’s efforts to obstruct the FBI’s investigation into the beating ultimately led to criminal convictions for himself, longtime county prosecutor Thomas Spota, and the former anti-corruption bureau chief. Multiple members of the Suffolk police force were forced to resign and faced charges over the scandal.
The LISK investigation was clearly a casualty of Burke’s corruption and the war between the police and FBI. After the investigation finally re-righted itself, however, results came fairly swiftly. Prosecutors are moving forward with the charges concerning the murders of seven of Heuermann’s alleged victims, and the triumphant task force has recently expanded to tackle other unsolved cases.

Who were the LISK victims not examined closely in Gone Girls?

Gone Girls conducts interviews with the families and friends of many of LISK’s known victims, but it mainly focuses on those of the Gilgo Four. Three additional women have been formally tied to Rex Heuermann: Jessica Taylor, Valerie Mack, and Sandra Costilla, although currently no court date has been set. Also found in the Long Island marshes that Heuermann used as a dumping ground were four more people — all of whom haven’t, as of yet, been served a chance for justice: “Peaches” Doe and her daughter, “Ocean Parkway Doe” (sometimes called “Asian Doe”), and Karen Vergata. Here’s what’s known about these victims.

Jessica Taylor

Jessica Taylor.
Jessica Taylor.
Remembering Jessica Taylor Facebook page
A vibrant 20-year-old who loved singing, bike-riding, and working with inner-city children, Jessica Taylor went missing while working near Port Authority in Manhattan in July 2003. Because her partial remains were found in Manorville, Long Island, later that same month, she was long thought to be a possible victim of another area serial killer, John Bittrolff. It wasn’t until 2011, when more of her remains were found near other LISK victims along Ocean Parkway, that police tied her to LISK.

Valerie Mack

Valerie Mack.
Valerie Mack.
Find a Grave page for Valerie Mack
24-year-old Valerie Mack lived and worked in Philadelphia before she went missing in October 2000, only for her remains to be found in Manorville a month later. Known for years as “Jane Doe No. 6,” Mack, who also went by Melissa Taylor, spent time in the foster care system and bounced around homes in her teens. She eventually received her identification in 2020 via forensic genealogy. She had never been reported missing.
It’s unclear where Mack was when she encountered LISK; at the least, her connection to Philadelphia suggests the possibility that he may have sought victims over a much wider geographic region than previously understood.

Sandra Costilla

Sandra Costilla.
Sandra Costilla.
Remembering Sandra Costilla Facebook page
Originally from Trinidad and Tobago, Costilla was 28 and living in New York City at the time of her murder in 1993. Her remains were discovered in Southampton that same year. In a reflection of an era when marginalized victims were treated with much less sensitivity than they are now, authorities described her as a “drifter.” Costilla was thought to be one of Bittrolff’s victims, so much so that in 2014, after his arrest, press reported him as a suspect in her case — but DNA and trace evidence eventually matched her to Heuermann.
Prior to Costilla being tied to LISK, the earliest known LISK murder was in 1996. Costilla’s murder raises the possibility of more victims over a longer period.

“Peaches” and “Baby Doe”

A tattoo of a bitten peach.
A tattoo of a bitten peach, from an unidentified woman.
Peaches Doe and Baby Doe Facebook page
It’s not known when “Peaches,” named for the tattoo she sported, went missing. Her remains were initially located in Hempstead Lake State Park in 1997. During the search for more LISK victims along Ocean Parkway in April 2011, more of her remains were found, along with those of her daughter, an unidentified toddler known as “Baby Doe.” The relatives were matched through DNA evidence, and both mother and daughter are believed to be LISK victims.
Authorities have recently traced Peaches’ possible roots to Alabama; she also may have ties to Forestville, Connecticut, via her tattoo.

Ocean Parkway Doe

Facial reconstruction of “Ocean Parkway Doe”
Facial reconstruction of “Ocean Parkway Doe” as they might have looked at the time of their disappearance.
Courtesy Gilgo Homicide Task Force
The fifth victim to be discovered, in April 2011, is an Asian person in their late teens or early 20s who was found wearing women’s clothes and is believed by many people to have been trans. (Heuermann’s internet searches revealed an interest in men as well as women, and in “Asian twinks.”) They’re frequently referred to in information about the case as an Asian male, though more recently they’ve been referred to as “Gilgo Beach Doe” or “Ocean Parkway Doe.”
Authorities believe this victim is likely from Southern China, of Han descent, had a height of between 5’3 to 5’9, and was between 17 and 23 years old. They are believed to have been killed around 2006 or later by a blow to the head. Like most of the other LISK victims, they are believed to have been a sex worker. In 2024, authorities finally produced an updated reconstruction of this victim that represented her as she seemed to be presenting herself when she went missing: as a woman.

Karen Vergata

Karen Vergata.
Karen Vergata.
Remembering Karen Vergata FB page
Thirty-four-year-old Karen Vergata last spoke to her family on Valentine’s Day 1996. Though her partial remains were discovered later that year on Fire Island, her family ran into repeated roadblocks in their quest to find her, even as “Fire Island Jane Doe” remained unidentified. Like several of the other victims, it wasn’t until more of her remains were discovered in April 2011 as part of the Gilgo Beach investigation that she was tied to LISK. She was eventually correctly identified. Authorities announced her identification in 2023, after using new DNA sampling.
Until Costilla was tied to LISK, Vergata was considered to be LISK’s earliest known victim. Now, with more potential victims still to be identified as belonging to LISK or another killer, the possibility of these murders going unsolved seems to have increased. We don’t know whether enough evidence will be found to tie Vergata to Heuermann or perhaps to another killer altogether.

The current phase of the LISK investigation has closed. From here, it may get harder.

At a March 12 press conference, Suffolk County DA Ray Tierney stated that the current phase of the LISK investigation, involving the first seven LISK victims, has closed. What happens to the remaining four associated victims now becomes uncertain.
“We’ll continue to look at those other murders, but we’re not going to ascribe them to one person or the other until we can prove it, and we’re not at the point of charging anyone yet,” Tierney said. He also declined to say whether investigators had identified the other “Doe” victims.
A spokesperson for the Suffolk County prosecutor’s office clarified to Vox that even if a victim has been identified, prosecutors typically will not make an identification public before officials have notified family members. Timing is also a consideration; officials held off on announcing the identification of one LISK victim, Karen Vergata, previously known as “Fire Island Jane Doe,” until after Heuermann’s arrest because they didn’t want to alert him to their activity in the case.
The task force responsible for identifying Heuermann has recently expanded to tackle other unsolved cases, including the remaining cases connected to LISK. However, as the spokesperson noted, older cases often have less evidence. Investigation is harder, too, when the victims are transient and/or vulnerable, as many of LISK’s victims were.
A spokesperson for the Suffolk County prosecutor reiterated to Vox that they don’t identify anyone as a possible perpetrator until they’re ready to charge them. When, or if, prosecutors will ever be ready to charge Heuermann in these other murders remains unclear.
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Because they used prostitutes themselves? Burke's girlfriend was a prostitute.
There just is a lot of crossover here. I mean the ones who would not investigate like him used prostitutes. CB at least was killing prostitutes. Burke too sure crosses over, was it him arrested not all that long ago and this time it was a male? So does CB per his searches. Both are into ANYTHING but CB/RH we know if the evidence is truth is a killer. Burke had a guy almost beat to death over taking his sex toys and laptop... So he'd probably kill if he had to.

RIght now I can't think of what it was with Spota but know both were bad but think I do have Burke straight right as to what facts on him I just mentioned?

Anyhow, it's a sad fact that all of those shennanigans by him or them cause a heck of a lot of questions here and the way tips were missed and you name it. And it makes it all strange and muddies the waters for sure.

There doesn't seem though to be much hint anyone was with CB in most of these murders. I guess that's where I try to stay mostly because all the other well, been gone through a lot over years but we never really get to a sure answer. I agree they could have maybe been covering for CB but he also kicked feds out, etc. and his buddies and crew may just not have been doing their jobs well nor giving a sh*t too. Just goofing off, taking their spoils and not doing their job as after all, just prostitutes right? I actually think that's just as likely.... I mean Burke couldn't have prisoners beat and such or do his thing if the feds were hanging around.... Right?
 
So just bringing this list forward again. So if CB stopped killing in LI , was it around 2012? After Shannon Gilbert was found and Burke and Spota had been jailed.
Could have been just because he saw how hot LE was on things like with Burke and Spota too, that LE was active, that things were heating up. Or I guess they could relate. Or he had a close call even that we wouldn't necessarily know about, meaning a woman fighting back, trying to pick one up, seeing an officer nearby, anything, wife started getting suspicious although I think that's unlikely lol the way she acts.
 
There just is a lot of crossover here. I mean the ones who would not investigate like him used prostitutes. CB at least was killing prostitutes. Burke too sure crosses over, was it him arrested not all that long ago and this time it was a male? So does CB per his searches. Both are into ANYTHING but CB/RH we know if the evidence is truth is a killer. Burke had a guy almost beat to death over taking his sex toys and laptop... So he'd probably kill if he had to.

RIght now I can't think of what it was with Spota but know both were bad but think I do have Burke straight right as to what facts on him I just mentioned?

Anyhow, it's a sad fact that all of those shennanigans by him or them cause a heck of a lot of questions here and the way tips were missed and you name it. And it makes it all strange and muddies the waters for sure.

There doesn't seem though to be much hint anyone was with CB in most of these murders. I guess that's where I try to stay mostly because all the other well, been gone through a lot over years but we never really get to a sure answer. I agree they could have maybe been covering for CB but he also kicked feds out, etc. and his buddies and crew may just not have been doing their jobs well nor giving a sh*t too. Just goofing off, taking their spoils and not doing their job as after all, just prostitutes right? I actually think that's just as likely.... I mean Burke couldn't have prisoners beat and such or do his thing if the feds were hanging around.... Right?
I have posted an update about Burke, Spota and McPartland, plus others i was unaware of. Read the two posts 3028 and 3029 to see their true involvement and how it prevented them apprehending LISK earlier.
 
Here is another link with a ton of info in it. I won't copy pasta as there is so much info. It's no wonder they had no time to catch a serial killer.

 
There just is a lot of crossover here. I mean the ones who would not investigate like him used prostitutes. CB at least was killing prostitutes. Burke too sure crosses over, was it him arrested not all that long ago and this time it was a male? So does CB per his searches. Both are into ANYTHING but CB/RH we know if the evidence is truth is a killer. Burke had a guy almost beat to death over taking his sex toys and laptop... So he'd probably kill if he had to.

RIght now I can't think of what it was with Spota but know both were bad but think I do have Burke straight right as to what facts on him I just mentioned?

Anyhow, it's a sad fact that all of those shennanigans by him or them cause a heck of a lot of questions here and the way tips were missed and you name it. And it makes it all strange and muddies the waters for sure.

There doesn't seem though to be much hint anyone was with CB in most of these murders. I guess that's where I try to stay mostly because all the other well, been gone through a lot over years but we never really get to a sure answer. I agree they could have maybe been covering for CB but he also kicked feds out, etc. and his buddies and crew may just not have been doing their jobs well nor giving a sh*t too. Just goofing off, taking their spoils and not doing their job as after all, just prostitutes right? I actually think that's just as likely.... I mean Burke couldn't have prisoners beat and such or do his thing if the feds were hanging around.... Right?
There were three bent LE right at the top. Spota was Burke's superior. McPartland was the Chief of the GCB (Government Corruption Board) . Read the article i posted at post 3033 - it has all the details of their prosecutions. The whole of Suffolk Police did what these three told them to do.
 
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