I’m watching a live report that Rob Reiner and his wife were stabbed to death in Brentwood and it might’ve been by Rob‘s son. Still waiting for verification.
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The Murder of Rob and Michele Reiner in Brentwood, California (3 Viewers)
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I’m watching a live report that Rob Reiner and his wife were stabbed to death in Brentwood and it might’ve been by Rob‘s son. Still waiting for verification.
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I've provided a link up thread for the info.
GrandmaBear
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I've looked things up on this myself back when this "debate" started. In a bit of depth so I've said what I've found and already knew a lot of as well.
If Nick is qualified, he is qualified for a PD and he's not taking money away from anyone. That's on the State as to funding. Also, big murder trials like this get different PDs than say an OWI would. Hardly the same. What do you think Kohberger cost the little county in ID? Or Daybell cost counties in two states and that's without all the cost of LE and security even and going to get them in HI and security for trials, arrangements for press and more? Let's not even add in all the experts.
It's not germane to this trial, again Nick qualifies or he doesn't for PDs. Same as anywhere.
GrandmaBear
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I watched a show that had a LOT of info about Nick and the Reiners throughout his years. He was reading from some article or publication. I got in there late (it was a live) so I never heard where it came from. If anyone comes across such, please link it, I'd like to read it and I am sure others would as well. It had a LOT of background stories and events.
The show also had news on Tepe but I didn't catch what source that came from either, he did say he has requested the actual affidavit it came from. It too was some article and not the one already linked which was good but this one had a bit more in it too.
I'll try to go back and find the show and see if it was named where the articles came from if I get a chance. Just saying in the meantime if anyone comes across these things, please link them.
The show also had news on Tepe but I didn't catch what source that came from either, he did say he has requested the actual affidavit it came from. It too was some article and not the one already linked which was good but this one had a bit more in it too.
I'll try to go back and find the show and see if it was named where the articles came from if I get a chance. Just saying in the meantime if anyone comes across these things, please link them.
GrandmaBear
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GrandmaBear
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Pretty interesting.
GrandmaBear
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An example:
Living life as a “functional addict” was Reiner’s ideal situation, said De Carlo. “I think that’s what he really wanted. Like, ‘Maybe one day, once I’m old enough, my parents are just going to step aside and realize that I can do drugs, and it’s not going to destroy me.’”
But as much as he wanted to escape his parents’ rules, he “needed his security blanket of living in a comfortable house where he could make a mess or leave dirty dishes out and not have to make his bed because someone else would take care of it,” De Carlo said.
Living life as a “functional addict” was Reiner’s ideal situation, said De Carlo. “I think that’s what he really wanted. Like, ‘Maybe one day, once I’m old enough, my parents are just going to step aside and realize that I can do drugs, and it’s not going to destroy me.’”
But as much as he wanted to escape his parents’ rules, he “needed his security blanket of living in a comfortable house where he could make a mess or leave dirty dishes out and not have to make his bed because someone else would take care of it,” De Carlo said.
GrandmaBear
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I've thought this is more about drug usages, entitlement, a child that never has adulted, enabling, etc. rather than schizophremia and all of the things in that article just confirms it even more so for me.
He WANTS to use always, never tried which I also thought, and resents his parents and wants out from under them BUT wants a home, money and someone else to clean up the messes.
Love and enabling do not work, love does not conquer all. He's a manipulative now lethal killing brat.
Of interest also throughout is that he was functional other than when he did certain drugs. There are examples throughout his life, even having a sense of humor, some personality, etc.
Sad when Rob said had he known what could happen with one kid, he'd have never had any.
It's a must read imo.
He WANTS to use always, never tried which I also thought, and resents his parents and wants out from under them BUT wants a home, money and someone else to clean up the messes.
Love and enabling do not work, love does not conquer all. He's a manipulative now lethal killing brat.
Of interest also throughout is that he was functional other than when he did certain drugs. There are examples throughout his life, even having a sense of humor, some personality, etc.
Sad when Rob said had he known what could happen with one kid, he'd have never had any.
It's a must read imo.
GrandmaBear
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There's more by the same newswoman, haven't found that one yet and don't know the title so if anyone can or does, link that too. Talks of a turkey leg at Thanksgiving, their tradition, etc. I tried to search but now am being asked to pay for the Post article.
By Amy Kaufman, starts out being called How friend describe Rick Reiner. I can maybe link it but I can't read it so if anyone could help or copy and past things it would be great.
At least I THINK that's the one. I don't know if it is like a part 1 and 2 or what. It looks like the same article but I read all of that one and this part I'm seeing now on the YT coverage was not in it.
Anyhow. Maybe if I use a different browser I can get in. No idea. Not sure I am going to try further right now.
By Amy Kaufman, starts out being called How friend describe Rick Reiner. I can maybe link it but I can't read it so if anyone could help or copy and past things it would be great.
At least I THINK that's the one. I don't know if it is like a part 1 and 2 or what. It looks like the same article but I read all of that one and this part I'm seeing now on the YT coverage was not in it.
Anyhow. Maybe if I use a different browser I can get in. No idea. Not sure I am going to try further right now.
GrandmaBear
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I'm just going to watch the YT show covering it again and the parts I missed.
He was so entitled he once called a family housekeeper to get him at a friend's house "across town" so he could be brought back to use his own bathroom in the guesthouse. Is something in this 2nd article.
He was so entitled he once called a family housekeeper to get him at a friend's house "across town" so he could be brought back to use his own bathroom in the guesthouse. Is something in this 2nd article.
GrandmaBear
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OMG. He threw a tantrum at Thanksgiving and called all the guests freeloaders at his house (Rob's and Michelle's home). I'm just going to link the YT video that covers every bit of it and shows the articles as he reads them.
GrandmaBear
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Good Lord what a drugged up brat but then Rob smiles and says after Nick's also saying he was not grateful for the effing food and just says well, that was easy to understand.
Is that how you would have reacted? Asking anyone. I sure wouldn't have. You have guests over and maybe family too and you just smile and say something like that? Everyone's saying in turns how grateful they are for this or that until it gets to Nick who is grateful for nothing.
THIS imo is the true Nick. He's a lost cause and has had more chances and more enablement and entitlement than anyone could EVER wish for. He deserves to die in prison. Manipulative, lying, evil little self entitled pr**k.
While I feel very much for Rob and Michelle, I entirely disagree with their way of handling him. And while I admired Rob's talents, I didn't disagree with him much on anything else. No one though deserves to deal with this but they certainly did not have to provide him with maid service and everything else for God's sake or put up with his behavior.
I have always seen to it my kids or grandkids have a roof over their head, at different intervals in life if needing help, and I won't see them without heat, electric, water, food, etc. but provide that for Nick and tell him you will send a meal down anytime you eat if need be, BUT nothing else. Let him live in his own squalor and find his own way if he wants anything else in life OR cut the cord.
You don't hand money or anything else. Not things he can hock. Nothing.
He tries to destroy a holiday, he gets escorted out. If he gets worse or physical you call 911.
It's all Nick's fault but they way they raised him and the way they handled him throughout life came back and bit them in the most awful way.
With a fair court, judge, system and with the prosecution doing a good job, he is going away for good. And he should. So the public can be safe and so that he has no luxuries any longer. Ever again.
Sorry but it's extremely angering reading this along wit the show I am rewatching.
Is that how you would have reacted? Asking anyone. I sure wouldn't have. You have guests over and maybe family too and you just smile and say something like that? Everyone's saying in turns how grateful they are for this or that until it gets to Nick who is grateful for nothing.
THIS imo is the true Nick. He's a lost cause and has had more chances and more enablement and entitlement than anyone could EVER wish for. He deserves to die in prison. Manipulative, lying, evil little self entitled pr**k.
While I feel very much for Rob and Michelle, I entirely disagree with their way of handling him. And while I admired Rob's talents, I didn't disagree with him much on anything else. No one though deserves to deal with this but they certainly did not have to provide him with maid service and everything else for God's sake or put up with his behavior.
I have always seen to it my kids or grandkids have a roof over their head, at different intervals in life if needing help, and I won't see them without heat, electric, water, food, etc. but provide that for Nick and tell him you will send a meal down anytime you eat if need be, BUT nothing else. Let him live in his own squalor and find his own way if he wants anything else in life OR cut the cord.
You don't hand money or anything else. Not things he can hock. Nothing.
He tries to destroy a holiday, he gets escorted out. If he gets worse or physical you call 911.
It's all Nick's fault but they way they raised him and the way they handled him throughout life came back and bit them in the most awful way.
With a fair court, judge, system and with the prosecution doing a good job, he is going away for good. And he should. So the public can be safe and so that he has no luxuries any longer. Ever again.
Sorry but it's extremely angering reading this along wit the show I am rewatching.
GrandmaBear
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I agree, I sure would have tried to. I think honestly they were too nicey nicey with Nick and manipulated or felt guilty when he had outbursts at him and so on.
They did send him places. Places with yoga, pools, and perks. That "kid" imo learned how to manipulate his parents from an early age. Probably even before the drugs.
GrandmaBear
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@Kimster I'll say this, I know you didn't want to watch their "joint" movie but it was pretty tame considering all Nick really has done and for how many years. It did end with him using which maybe one is to intuit the boy in the movie kept using but I'm thinking it may have been a glimpse into their lives but it sure didn't show all and if was just "based" loosely around their lives allegedly.
If you read what i linked or watch the vid of the other part, Nick coudln't get the movie off the ground, was supposed to first be a sit com, then an hour long weekly thing I think then Rob helped and shopped it around and no one would touch it or take it and so he produced it himself. It is a decent watch, I didn't regret watching it. It was no movie that would have won awards but if I knew nothing, it would have been a movie I didn't regret watching. There are true to life things in it imo like the throwing a brick through a church window...
I'm very glad these articles were published and sources contributed, some named, because it counteracts big time what Jackson was trying to say and do.
Nick Reiner needs to be locked up for life imo and the public safe from him.
If you read what i linked or watch the vid of the other part, Nick coudln't get the movie off the ground, was supposed to first be a sit com, then an hour long weekly thing I think then Rob helped and shopped it around and no one would touch it or take it and so he produced it himself. It is a decent watch, I didn't regret watching it. It was no movie that would have won awards but if I knew nothing, it would have been a movie I didn't regret watching. There are true to life things in it imo like the throwing a brick through a church window...
I'm very glad these articles were published and sources contributed, some named, because it counteracts big time what Jackson was trying to say and do.
Nick Reiner needs to be locked up for life imo and the public safe from him.
When I watched that interview with him and Rob where Rob says "I listened to the counselors, but I didn't listen to Nick" and saw the look on Nick's face, I felt like I could hear Nick's thoughts saying "I've got Dad right where I need him now".
GrandmaBear
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I so see the same thing and agree with what you are saying. He's a manipulative spoiled brat that used his parents to his advantage with their concern and nature of wanting to "fix" him and "help" him. He needs to rot and be away from the public and I doubt I will be changing that opinion. I'll consider things to the contrary but don't think I'm going to buy them if not major proof.
You never know where a sociopath might be born. Doesn’t matter if you’re rich or poor.
Cousin Dupree
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Candace DeLong puts it this way: Psychopaths are born, sociopaths are made. I think he's a Psychopath. The other kids seem fine.
Tresir
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This article gives a good insight. I think he is a sociopath based on what they say in this though. Both are ASPD.
Sociopathy and psychopathy are non-clinical terms used to describe distinct patterns of traits under the umbrella diagnosis of Antisocial Personality Disorder, or ASPD.
Psychopaths are often considered “born,” exhibiting a profound lack of emotion and remorse, making them cold and calculated manipulators.
Sociopaths are seen as “made,” with their behavior being more impulsive and erratic, stemming from environmental factors, though they may rarely show fleeting guilt.
More at link.
www.simplypsychology.org
Sociopathy and psychopathy are non-clinical terms used to describe distinct patterns of traits under the umbrella diagnosis of Antisocial Personality Disorder, or ASPD.
Psychopaths are often considered “born,” exhibiting a profound lack of emotion and remorse, making them cold and calculated manipulators.
Sociopaths are seen as “made,” with their behavior being more impulsive and erratic, stemming from environmental factors, though they may rarely show fleeting guilt.
More at link.
How Sociopaths Are Different from Psychopaths
Psychopaths and sociopaths both have antisocial personality disorder, but psychopaths typically lack empathy and are manipulative, often blending in with society. Sociopaths, however, are more likely to be impulsive, visibly erratic, and less able to form attachments with others.
www.simplypsychology.org
GrandmaBear
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I don't know. I think he was mostly "made". I don't take the other kids seeming fine to mean much. Nick talks of Rob not bonding with him when young as he did with his brother. He was raised by money imo more than care. He shows major acting on impulse imo. Drugs only exacerbated as did enabling and buying him out of any trouble he got into. He learned that the way to get attn and be the focus of the family was his unpredictable and awful behavior.
There's no hint the other kids ever got into drugs at all, at least not to the extent and type of drugs that Nick did. I think that's a major difference as well. No hint of numbers of rehab stints for them.
I can think of families where one went down the drug route and how entirely different they are than the other family members especially the types of drugs Nick did are going to have some major effects.