OK Searching for my missing father STEPHEN MURPHY: Missing from Tulsa, OK - 2 May 1976 - Age 19

Searching for my father, Stephen Lee Murphy. No one had seen or heard from him 1976. No missing person report was filed until I filed one July 2022. Last anyone had contact with him he was 19 years old. He served in the Marine Corps from 1975-1984 when he was discharged out for AWOL and Misconduct. I tried to get his OMPF with no luck. Detective out of Tulsa Oklahoma is awaiting their request for his military file. If anyone knows him or has had any contact with him, I would appreciate knowing. I appreciate any help and suggestions. Thank you all so much


 

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Geez. You're grandmother said he was just "Gone"?. I find that odd too. Especially from a mother. I get the feeling they know more than they are saying. IDK what, And I am not trying to accuse them of anything.
I've thought that about his sister for about a year now. I can't ask his mother since she has passed. But sadly she never responded to any of my letters over the years.
 
That law changed alot. That was ridiculous. Finding her remains in 1983, Only to.sit there unidentified for decades. I don't think they will ever find her killer. I never heard it mentioned they had evidence at all from the perpetrator.
I haven't either. I recently googled her
 
His only family other than me, is a sister and 2 brothers and one uncle. His uncle is up in age and took what he said that he would be ok. One of his brother's has lot of health issues. Other brother didn't really know about him til I contacted him, he is a few years younger than I am. His sister is my age and trusted what her mother said. That he was just gone.
Well I am off to bed. I've been up for 20 hours. I will keep checking here and I am going to read up on everything on the internet to know everything on this. I do that with everything. It's not that I doubt you. Don't get me wrong. I saw already your work into this. PM me anytime if you want to. It was great to meet you. :D I'll read up this weekend when I can.
 
Well I am off to bed. I've been up for 20 hours. I will keep checking here and I am going to read up on everything on the internet to know everything on this. I do that with everything. It's not that I doubt you. Don't get me wrong. I saw already your work into this. PM me anytime if you want to. It was great to meet you. :D I'll read up this weekend when I can.
Thank you so much.
 
I've thought that about his sister for about a year now. I can't ask his mother since she has passed. But sadly she never responded to any of my letters over the years.
I wasn’t much younger than your father when your father went missing. There was a disconnect in some families in those years, including my own. If you didn’t believe in following the ways of the prior generations, then sometimes you could be “disowned”. Maybe that’s what happened. I know in my family “hippies” were not tolerated at all. We didn’t have anyone go AWOL from the Armed Forces, but I’m sure that would’ve been a kiss of death as well. It was more common then to associate your own reputation with your kids reputation, and I think some of that stigma has lessened over the years. At least it seems that way to me. So that might be why they said “he just left”.
 
No. I don't understand why she never responded to my letters. I was very polite.
Bums me out when I’m being polite and other people are not. Please don’t think this is a reflection on you.

Submitting your DNA was the best thing you could’ve done. I’m so glad that’s been done! Organizations like the DNA Doe Project are becoming more and more prevalent as time goes on and more and more on identified remains are being identified. I can’t even keep up with it anymore. It used to be a snails pace 10 years ago. Also there are professionals that have photogenic memories like I can’t believe, like Carl Koppelman. If he sees a reconstruction that looks anything like your dad, he will be all over it. Because you filed at NamUS, I know he’s already seen the photo.
 
I wasn’t much younger than your father when your father went missing. There was a disconnect in some families in those years, including my own. If you didn’t believe in following the ways of the prior generations, then sometimes you could be “disowned”. Maybe that’s what happened. I know in my family “hippies” were not tolerated at all. We didn’t have anyone go AWOL from the Armed Forces, but I’m sure that would’ve been a kiss of death as well. It was more common then to associate your own reputation with your kids reputation, and I think some of that stigma has lessened over the years. At least it seems that way to me. So that might be why they said “he just left”.
So true. I can confirm this. My older brothers far more than my older sisters my parents had difficulty with and difficulty understanding. Peace, love, anti everything that was the norm, drugs, long hair, easier sexuality and free love, running away with friends, etc. it was a difficult time between generations. . Our family came through it but there were rifts, long ones through those years and even in some later years, the later years being the late 70s/early 80s. So many in late 60s to mid 70s hitchhiked, left home, "lived off the land", etc. that it isn't surprising the number of missing or UIDs from the 70s honestly. It saddens me, some just trusting in all or anyone they encountered imo. My brothers didn't embrace all of these things but some and parents were just the opposite, many having come through the wars, the depression, having pride in country, etc. The era of the Vietnam war in the 60s and 70s as well and draft dodging and more. On the flip side, that free behavior had some joining the military due to the consequences of fathering a child unmarried, telling their parents or having to pay child support.

We never had any of that but my parents were absolutely mortified as was grandma when one of my brothers lived with an older woman with a child and dated her or "lived together" was the term that was NOT okay and against the rules. Now everyone does can you imagine? He was probably like 19 and she 22 or 23 with a 4 year old son. My youngest sister and I were forbidden from walking a few blocks to see them (but did so anyhow., that just made us wonder what the big deal was and we loved going there and playing with her little boy and thought they were so cool they had their own apartment, etc. in town). I cannot even believe today this was my parents or that was that time period but it was. It was shocking, you didn't do that, family didn't want to be judged by neighbors and more for their teens or adult young chlldren behaving in such a way. Uhm they weren't harming anyone, there are far worse things but it all was very shocking this rebellion to that generation. They pushed peace and such things all while in total turmoil at home with their parents, no peace in that respect...

Anyhow.... Most came through it but things happened in those years I don't doubt that families slid under the rug or made choices that seemed maybe they thought the best decision for what they were dealing with and then years later how do you come back from it.... Or admit it... So did their adult children make choices that some probably stayed with (like drugs) and some grew out of and matured.

I don't know enough here, just have been reading to get the gist of it but it does sound as if there may have been some rift or hard feelings and then stubbornness too may have set in (a LOT of that in my family in those years, still some traces today...), the stubbornness part)...

I know none of this helps, just a post to kind of touch on those years and how it isn't necessarily anything nefarious which is a good thing, hopefully he is still living or did have a good life...?
 
I wasn’t much younger than your father when your father went missing. There was a disconnect in some families in those years, including my own. If you didn’t believe in following the ways of the prior generations, then sometimes you could be “disowned”. Maybe that’s what happened. I know in my family “hippies” were not tolerated at all. We didn’t have anyone go AWOL from the Armed Forces, but I’m sure that would’ve been a kiss of death as well. It was more common then to associate your own reputation with your kids reputation, and I think some of that stigma has lessened over the years. At least it seems that way to me. So that might be why they said “he just left”.
I do understand that. Originally I just wanted to find him and his family for medical insight. But the need to know why and where he has been has only deepened my need to continue to search.
 
Bums me out when I’m being polite and other people are not. Please don’t think this is a reflection on you.

Submitting your DNA was the best thing you could’ve done. I’m so glad that’s been done! Organizations like the DNA Doe Project are becoming more and more prevalent as time goes on and more and more on identified remains are being identified. I can’t even keep up with it anymore. It used to be a snails pace 10 years ago. Also there are professionals that have photogenic memories like I can’t believe, like Carl Koppelman. If he sees a reconstruction that looks anything like your dad, he will be all over it. Because you filed at NamUS, I know he’s already seen the photo.
I know it wasn't me for her not responding. That lies on her. Had she responded she would have known a good granddaughter,plus great granddaughters and great great grandchildren. She lost out on that.
 
So true. I can confirm this. My older brothers far more than my older sisters my parents had difficulty with and difficulty understanding. Peace, love, anti everything that was the norm, drugs, long hair, easier sexuality and free love, running away with friends, etc. it was a difficult time between generations. . Our family came through it but there were rifts, long ones through those years and even in some later years, the later years being the late 70s/early 80s. So many in late 60s to mid 70s hitchhiked, left home, "lived off the land", etc. that it isn't surprising the number of missing or UIDs from the 70s honestly. It saddens me, some just trusting in all or anyone they encountered imo. My brothers didn't embrace all of these things but some and parents were just the opposite, many having come through the wars, the depression, having pride in country, etc. The era of the Vietnam war in the 60s and 70s as well and draft dodging and more. On the flip side, that free behavior had some joining the military due to the consequences of fathering a child unmarried, telling their parents or having to pay child support.

We never had any of that but my parents were absolutely mortified as was grandma when one of my brothers lived with an older woman with a child and dated her or "lived together" was the term that was NOT okay and against the rules. Now everyone does can you imagine? He was probably like 19 and she 22 or 23 with a 4 year old son. My youngest sister and I were forbidden from walking a few blocks to see them (but did so anyhow., that just made us wonder what the big deal was and we loved going there and playing with her little boy and thought they were so cool they had their own apartment, etc. in town). I cannot even believe today this was my parents or that was that time period but it was. It was shocking, you didn't do that, family didn't want to be judged by neighbors and more for their teens or adult young chlldren behaving in such a way. Uhm they weren't harming anyone, there are far worse things but it all was very shocking this rebellion to that generation. They pushed peace and such things all while in total turmoil at home with their parents, no peace in that respect...

Anyhow.... Most came through it but things happened in those years I don't doubt that families slid under the rug or made choices that seemed maybe they thought the best decision for what they were dealing with and then years later how do you come back from it.... Or admit it... So did their adult children make choices that some probably stayed with (like drugs) and some grew out of and matured.

I don't know enough here, just have been reading to get the gist of it but it does sound as if there may have been some rift or hard feelings and then stubbornness too may have set in (a LOT of that in my family in those years, still some traces today...), the stubbornness part)...

I know none of this helps, just a post to kind of touch on those years and how it isn't necessarily anything nefarious which is a good thing, hopefully he is still living or did have a good life...?
Thank you so much for that insight. I truly appreciate it. He was 18 when I was born. My mother was 20. He graduated, married, had a kid, and joined the military all in one year, 1975. Plus his father passed away in 1973, his mother remarried in 1974. And from what I have gathered there was alcoholism running. Not counting the mental illnesses.
 
Thank you so much for that insight. I truly appreciate it. He was 18 when I was born. My mother was 20. He graduated, married, had a kid, and joined the military all in one year, 1975. Plus his father passed away in 1973, his mother remarried in 1974. And from what I have gathered there was alcoholism running. Not counting the mental illnesses.
I don't know anything but I can relate to the times and such. I married at 18 had two children and divorced at 23. Early 80s. My husband/ex was ill equipped to be responsible or a dad and never became a decent employed one or responsible parent. He also would often go missing. He was five years older than I and I was a naive teenager who grew up fast and had to. I was a responsible mom and someone had to be the responsible parent.

I don't know if any of that applies to your scenario at all but my MIL as well was no help. My MIL to her dying day helped her sons avoid things like child support, being served papers, their whereabouts, income if any, etc. all these decades after the same kind of games went on as her sons remarried or had more children.

On the other hand, that is a lot to have to deal with and responsibility to face. Even with mine, but I had to I guess is how I look at it and I have and he light years later never did.

In no way am I saying the same applies in your case, just an example on the bit I know based on what I had. My kids's dad never saw them after we divorced and yet had to wonder because they went to school with cousins, he lived in the rea, etc. It was very damaging to them to think their dad cared so little.

Again, not saying it is the case here.

So if I can ask (and never feel you can't say you'd rather not ansewr) your parents were married but young and your dad knew about you and was married to your mom when you were born? In other words, he knows he has a child? IF he is alive and something did not happen to him which is very possible from the few facts I have had time to read here. Like no word from him in decades even to his mother or siblings apparently.
 
I don't know anything but I can relate to the times and such. I married at 18 had two children and divorced at 23. Early 80s. My husband/ex was ill equipped to be responsible or a dad and never became a decent employed one or responsible parent. He also would often go missing. He was five years older than I and I was a naive teenager who grew up fast and had to. I was a responsible mom and someone had to be the responsible parent.

I don't know if any of that applies to your scenario at all but my MIL as well was no help. My MIL to her dying day helped her sons avoid things like child support, being served papers, their whereabouts, income if any, etc. all these decades after the same kind of games went on as her sons remarried or had more children.

On the other hand, that is a lot to have to deal with and responsibility to face. Even with mine, but I had to I guess is how I look at it and I have and he light years later never did.

In no way am I saying the same applies in your case, just an example on the bit I know based on what I had. My kids's dad never saw them after we divorced and yet had to wonder because they went to school with cousins, he lived in the rea, etc. It was very damaging to them to think their dad cared so little.

Again, not saying it is the case here.

So if I can ask (and never feel you can't say you'd rather not ansewr) your parents were married but young and your dad knew about you and was married to your mom when you were born? In other words, he knows he has a child? IF he is alive and something did not happen to him which is very possible from the few facts I have had time to read here. Like no word from him in decades even to his mother or siblings apparently.
Yes he knew about me. As did his mother. My mother was pregnant with me when they got married and his mother was a witness.
 
You mentioned alcoholism in his family. Did you learn about any domestic violence in his family? Was he last seen by the Marines?
 

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