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That's debated a lot. Most say no. There is a whitish area but it sure does not look like marks children would make, more like faint blotches. To me it looks more like cement or concrete dust or fading of patio concrete, etc. Maybe even desert dust or some such...
If I were LE, I'd be asking to see the chalk and see if they can get DNA from it.
Yes, that's what makes me wonder if it is chalk because they didn't take it. Some are outright saying it is but there is no way to tell that I can see, not that I am good with enhancing pics or anything. It could be anything white and kind of that shape. I am not sure the scale is right either but it's hard to tell, cameras give funny angles sometimes.
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I saw this last night and am not sure what I think about it. Personally, the way it sounded to me in what I heard was she contacted the PI because she had not heard back from the PD. I would imagine the PD checked it out or knew it could not be and I don't think they usually respond to tipsters with what they learn. I don't put much faith in it because of that. Jmo.Bill Garcia, a private investigator for more than 30 years started working on the missing boy's case of Orrin and Orson West, last Saturday.Private investigator searches for missing boys in Tehachapi after tip
Bill Garcia, a private investigator for more than 30 years started working on the missing boy's case of Orrin and Orson West, last Saturday. The four and three-year-old were last seen by the adoptive parents at their home in California City on December 21. Garcia says he met a woman in...
Garcia says he met a woman in California City who said her mother saw the boys at the Albertson's parking lot in Tehachapi on December 23.
"She said that once she saw the news report about the missing boys, that she was sure that, that was the boys, with these two adults, which were both male," Garcia, Owner of Bill Garcia Investigative Services, said.
He says the woman claims one of the men was African-American and the second one could have been, he says they were in their 20s to 30s and dressed normally.
"She claimed that she saw them walking for the Albertson's through the parking lot and each person had a hold of one of the boys' hands, but there wasn't any deliberate attempt to move away from them or anything like that, it seemed normal," Garcia, said.
He says the woman contacted California City Police and has not heard back. Eyewitness News also contacted California City Police and has not heard back.
Garcia tells Eyewitness News he thinks the best place to look for Orrin and Orson West is in rural isolated parts of Tehachapi, like Sand Canyon and surrounding areas.
That's what this is looking like and I gather he is posting online. I am unaware of where but maybe FB or some such, no idea. Yet there are a lot of things being said about LE and that area too.
Yeah exactly. I don't think there's any issue with reporting the tip to the PI, just to make sure it was looked into. But if LE had to respond to every tipster to say, "Yes, we checked out your tip," that could get a bit tedious and waste their time. Not only that, but the tip was two men (so clearly not the parents) holding the hands of two boys, in public, calmly and not under duress or acting suspiciously, just 2 days after they were reported missing?
I have been so into this case to the point that some of the stuff out there is ticking me off and it is really getting crazy. I don't know much about this PI just knew I heard his name before and he was involved in a few other known cases. It almost makes me think of a lawyer who seeks the news, like Geragos, Patterson, etc. I am not saying he is like that but it sounds like from the day he started he was sharing where he was going, etc. So what is his real purpose? I don't know.
This truly is amazing! I wonder how much extra money this city has it it’s disposal? That’s a huge chunk of money for a small city.Amazing to see the community coming together for these boys.
Reward for missing boys increases to $100K
CALIFORNIA CITY — The amount of reward money for the location of the missing 3-year-old Orson and 4-year-old Orrin West increased to $100,000 Wednesday as both Victory Baptist Church andwww.desertnews.com
Reward for missing boys increases to $100K
The amount of reward money for the location of the missing 3-year-old Orson and 4-year-old Orrin West increased to $100,000 Wednesday as both Victory Baptist Church and West Coast Realty offered $10,000 to the already established combined $80,000.
Residents Ron and Kim Smith are offering $10,000 through Victory Baptist Church, while the other $10,000 comes from West Coast Reality.
Ron Smith, Victory Baptist's pastor, said the reward came with the policy of "information resulting in bringing the boys home." The reward would be covered by the Smiths directly through the church.
"I hope that something helps to bring those boys home alive," Smith said, adding keeping the boys in the news continues to help. He added the reward offered by West Coast Reality comes with the same criteria as the church's.
Smith said he is "really grateful" for West Coast's support, adding the business and its owner Leland Krelle "have helped some of the kids that are going through tough times" in California City.
GreenStone Cannabis Dispensary and Preferred Towing, owned by Rick Smith, have offered $10,000 each for information leading to the finding of the two boys. Additionally, Murphy's Pools and Spas offered $5,000.
California City's city council approved a $25,000 amount for information leading to the arrest and conviction of those involved in the boys' disappearance. The extended family of the boys' adopted parents on Monday, added $30,000 to the total amount.
I tend to lean that way too. However, there is a lot of scuttlebutt out there about this police chief. People (some) also claim this is a "privately owned" police department and more. Lots of talk about all of the missing from this fairly small city. Trafficking. Supposedly Kern County, CA is one of the worst in the nation and Bakersfield itself as well. However, I rarely see a case where when there are not instant results people don't start wondering if LE is doing their job and talk starts... I have done it myself on occasion or at least wonder. I don't generally go as far as this is going with the talk about the police, corruption, etc.
I actually had a relative who lived in Bakersfield and I can't remember the years. He was out there maybe in the late 70s/early 80s? He had always dabbled in drugs but ended up overdosing big time out there. I guess it doesn't mean anything about the area but I would say he was caught up with people or a party scene that was way different than where he came from. He was young and while no one made him do it, I am not one to ever say that, we all have a mind of our own, it was not a good move. He did survive and moved back.
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Interesting and it fits a lot of what is being said out there about Bakersfield. There is also a lot of talk about Cal City and a high number of missing children and adults for its size.I remember especially Bakersfield having alot going on behind the scenes..
Bribes, kickbacks, falsifying reports: BPD officer claims corruption
A Bakersfield police officer is accusing captains in the department of crime and corruption. Chris Messick said he’s witnessed commanding officers break the rules. Messick, who said he’s been suspended without pay pending termination, shot a cellphone video confession at his home in Bakersfield...