Portugal MADELEINE McCANN: Missing from Praia da Luz, Portugal - 3 May 2007 - Age 3 (2 Viewers)

Madeleine Beth McCann (born 12 May 2003) disappeared on the evening of 3 May 2007 from her bed in a holiday apartment at a resort in Praia da Luz, in the Algarve region of Portugal. Her whereabouts remain unknown.[3] The Daily Telegraph described the disappearance as "the most heavily reported missing-person case in modern history".[4]

Madeleine was on holiday from the UK with her parents, Kate and Gerry McCann; her two-year-old twin siblings; and a group of family friends and their children. She and the twins had been left asleep at 20:30 in the ground-floor apartment, while the McCanns and friends dined in a restaurant 55 metres (180 ft) away.[5] The parents checked on the children throughout the evening, until Madeleine's mother discovered she was missing at 22:00.

Disappearance of Madeleine McCann - Wikipedia

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Scotland Yard Reveal Latest Findings in Search for Madeleine

In a world exclusive with the BBC, Scotland Yard reveals their latest findings in the search for Madeleine McCann

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MADELEINE McCANN: Missing from Praia da Luz, Portugal - 3 May 2007 - Age 3

Madeleine Beth McCann (born 12 May 2003) disappeared on the evening of 3 May 2007 from her bed in a holiday apartment at a resort in Praia da Luz, in the Algarve region of Portugal. Her whereabouts remain unknown.[3]

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[noZme]

“All we have ever wanted is to find her, uncover the truth and bring those responsible to justice,” the couple wrote on their website. “We will never give up hope of finding Madeleine alive, but whatever the outcome may be, we need to know as we need to find peace.”

Scotland Yard Reveal Latest Findings in Search for Madeleine

In a world exclusive with the BBC, Scotland Yard reveals their latest findings in the search for Madeleine McCann

findmadeleine.com

Authorities have not released the suspect's name, but he has been widely identified by the German media as a 43-year-old Christian B, a convicted German child sex offender.

The suspect spent numerous years in Portugal, including in Praia da Luz around the time of McCann’s disappearance, and has two previous convictions for “sexual contact with girls.”

"The Op Grange team have had just short of 400 pieces of information through, in calls and emails," a British police spokesman told Britain's Press Association on Sunday

Madeleine McCann tips flood in after new suspect identified; probe into another missing girl

Hundreds of tips have poured into British police in the days after a new suspect was identified in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann as authorities in Germany are investigating if the man may have been involved with a similar crime.

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[kdg411]

 

[GrandmaBear]

I was looking for news on another case and came across this. I have never heard of this news site so can't vouch for them, however, it is a good read or so I thought and it coincides with other recent news on this case.

Revealed: police suspect a hotel worker tipped Madeleine McCann’s kidnapper that her hotel room would be unlocked

Investigators suspect the kidnapper of Madeleine McCann may have been tipped off that she'd be unattended in an unlocked hotel room during dinner

knewz.com

 

[GrandmaBear]

I should add to the above though that why does going to dinner, each evening nearby mean the hotel room will be unlocked? I don't quite get that? Well, I don't get that at all actually. I get it would tell people that the family is dining and the children may be alone, but not the unlocked door. What am I missing?

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

IF it is true...maybe this hotel worker had seen the family return to the room without needing to unlock the door? They just walked right in? OR maybe overhearing a conversation. "Hey I'm going to go check on the kids can I have the key?" "Oh you don't need the key it's unlocked."

 

[GrandmaBear]

IF it is true...maybe this hotel worker had seen the family return to the room without needing to unlock the door? They just walked right in? OR maybe overhearing a conversation. "Hey I'm going to go check on the kids can I have the key?" "Oh you don't need the key it's unlocked."

Yeah, I don't know. It sounded from the article as if seeing the log book would tell someone it was unlocked but I truly don't understand that. It would show what time they were out to dinner and I guess an employee could possibly provide a master key but it just sounded as if it was the book and employees knowing it was unlocked and even anyone seeing the book laying around... Did they perhaps trust staff to go in and check on the kids while they dined? The last thing most parents would do is leave kids in an unlocked motel room for any reason and out of country? IF it is true is also something to wonder about. This case I have always been very undecided about, one can listen to one show, etc. and believe one way and another and believe another way. I feel much the same in the Jon Benet Ramsey case. I hope they are onto something here but part of me says it seems just a bit too convenient and lucky after all of these years... However, he is one they had looked at and he certainly seems to have similar crimes that fit.

 

[Guess Who]

Yeah, I don't know. It sounded from the article as if seeing the log book would tell someone it was unlocked but I truly don't understand that. It would show what time they were out to dinner and I guess an employee could possibly provide a master key but it just sounded as if it was the book and employees knowing it was unlocked and even anyone seeing the book laying around... Did they perhaps trust staff to go in and check on the kids while they dined? The last thing most parents would do is leave kids in an unlocked motel room for any reason and out of country? IF it is true is also something to wonder about. This case I have always been very undecided about, one can listen to one show, etc. and believe one way and another and believe another way. I feel much the same in the Jon Benet Ramsey case. I hope they are onto something here but part of me says it seems just a bit too convenient and lucky after all of these years... However, he is one they had looked at and he certainly seems to have similar crimes that fit.

I think the parents in the group most likely had been drinking and got loud with their plans and actions. IIRC, there were a few of them that opted out of the monitoring devices and had cycles of each other taking turns checking on the kids in the various rooms and left their rooms unlocked to make it easier on them. It wouldn't take much to figure out what was going on if one just paid attention. Also the refusal of the offer for the monitors themselves could have raised the flag to somebody from the resort itself.

 

[Guess Who]

I think the parents in the group most likely had been drinking and got loud with their plans and actions. IIRC, there were a few of them that opted out of the monitoring devices and had cycles of each other taking turns checking on the kids in the various rooms and left their rooms unlocked to make it easier on them. It wouldn't take much to figure out what was going on if one just paid attention. Also the refusal of the offer for the monitors themselves could have raised the flag to somebody from the resort itself.

I sure don't get the leaving the kids in the rooms unattended and unlocked for any reason. The McCanns compared it to going out "in the garden" (what we know as our back yards) while the kids were sleeping. Well, most of us that would do that would make sure the front door is locked, wouldn't we? We are also most likely within earshot if not even sight. It was nothing like that. They couldn't see the room from where they were and certainly couldn't see or hear anything if the kids needed anything or had an emergency. These were educated people, too.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I think the parents in the group most likely had been drinking and got loud with their plans and actions. IIRC, there were a few of them that opted out of the monitoring devices and had cycles of each other taking turns checking on the kids in the various rooms and left their rooms unlocked to make it easier on them. It wouldn't take much to figure out what was going on if one just paid attention. Also the refusal of the offer for the monitors themselves could have raised the flag to somebody from the resort itself.

That rings a distant bell, checking on other kids in other rooms. They had an option of monitors? Not sure that I knew that. I have seen on trips to other countries where people are way too trusting. On the other hand, who would even leave children alone in an unlocked room at night in a motel in this country even, much less a foreign country? And at 3 and younger in their case? Not trying to be judgmental but it is a stretch and at least poor judgment. I realize the restaurant/dining area was nearby but 180 feet isn't exactly dining on your patio. Locked and/or monitored would be one thing, and a bit more understandable, but even that is risky. And with older children, it would be a bit more understandable. The fact that they offer monitors throws me. Do they commonly have or encourage parents to go out poolside, to dine, etc. with a monitor while their children are asleep? Quite honestly, that right there would put my radar up.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I sure don't get the leaving the kids in the rooms unattended and unlocked for any reason. The McCanns compared it to going out "in the garden" (what we know as our back yards) while the kids were sleeping. Well, most of us that would do that would make sure the front door is locked, wouldn't we? We are also most likely within earshot if not even sight. It was nothing like that. They couldn't see the room from where they were and certainly couldn't see or hear anything if the kids needed anything or had an emergency. These were educated people, too.

I think you will agree educated people often means nothing when it comes to common sense or parenting. I also can even grant that most of us learn as we go even if we thought we knew, when we first become parents, theirs were young, they did not even have one yet who had been through the toddler years. However, I dare say most new parents overworry and overprotect. Personally, I would never take my children to a foreign country when young, not knocking every country but I just would not. If one of my children were going to do that with my grandchildren I would have a fit. But then, that's me.
I either did not realize or did not remember they couldn't even see the room. I figured or pictured that they could, albeit from a distance, perhaps see a patio door and if lights came on, etc. I picture an interior door with a key lock and a patio door. It was ground floor wasn't it or is my memory wrong on that? Or was the locked key door on the exterior?

 

[Guess Who]

That rings a distant bell, checking on other kids in other rooms. They had an option of monitors? Not sure that I knew that. I have seen on trips to other countries where people are way too trusting. On the other hand, who would even leave children alone in an unlocked room at night in a motel in this country even, much less a foreign country? And at 3 and younger in their case? Not trying to be judgmental but it is a stretch and at least poor judgment. I realize the restaurant/dining area was nearby but 180 feet isn't exactly dining on your patio. Locked and/or monitored would be one thing, and a bit more understandable, but even that is risky. And with older children, it would be a bit more understandable. The fact that they offer monitors throws me. Do they commonly have or encourage parents to go out poolside, to dine, etc. with a monitor while their children are asleep? Quite honestly, that right there would put my radar up.

I don't get it, either. My kids would have been right there with me anywhere I went, especially if out of country where you know nothing about everything. They either get drug along with you or you do without. What if they simply fell and got seriously cut or something? What if they got up looking for you and wandered out? At home, they would know where to look. I might feel a bit different if it was a situation where you could easily see/hear the front door, but it wasn't.

 

[Guess Who]

I think you will agree educated people often means nothing when it comes to common sense or parenting. I also can even grant that most of us learn as we go even if we thought we knew, when we first become parents, theirs were young, they did not even have one yet who had been through the toddler years. However, I dare say most new parents overworry and overprotect. Personally, I would never take my children to a foreign country when young, not knocking every country but I just would not. If one of my children were going to do that with my grandchildren I would have a fit. But then, that's me.
I either did not realize or did not remember they couldn't even see the room. I figured or pictured that they could, albeit from a distance, perhaps see a patio door and if lights came on, etc. I picture an interior door with a key lock and a patio door. It was ground floor wasn't it or is my memory wrong on that? Or was the locked key door on the exterior?

The UNlocked key door was on the exterior, but you couldn't see the entry from where they were. I think you could almost see it, but not see it and not ground floor. The other details were too long ago for me to remember.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I don't get it, either. My kids would have been right there with me anywhere I went, especially if out of country where you know nothing about everything. They either get drug along with you or you do without. What if they simply fell and got seriously cut or something? What if they got up looking for you and wandered out? At home, they would know where to look. I might feel a bit different if it was a situation where you could easily see/hear the front door, but it wasn't.

I thought of that too. One has to worry at home as well but one can set up their home and have routines, etc. and safeguard. I thought of what if Madeleine got up, the older one and filled a bathtub, unlocked a door, tried to lift one of the younger siblings, etc., all sorts of things could happen. That is why imo most mothers have great fears when their children are little because quite simply you cannot be awake 24/7. To me, if you are going to take your children on a trip anywhere, but particularly another country, you had better plan on it being their vacation first, not yours, you better have a ton of energy to be present 24/7 and eagle eyed and never have a lax moment, particularly in a hotel situation. They had a bunch of couples? Well take turns if nothing else. One person each night can't go to dinner but stays with the kids or anything on that order. Have money? Take some extra trusted help with you. I hate being that judgmental and I am sure they likely regret their choices, but again I could understand to a point if they could see the place, the door was locked, they took a monitor, etc., and at these childrens' ages? Hard to comprehend. The unlocked door is the hardest to comprehend.

 

[GrandmaBear]

The UNlocked key door was on the exterior, but you couldn't see the entry from where they were. I think you could almost see it, but not see it and not ground floor. The other details were too long ago for me to remember.

That's me. I followed it back when quite a bit but it was a long time ago and I forget. Thanks for what you do remember.

 

[Whatsnext]

Only one of the couples had a Baby monitor with them, the others chose that sketchy checking system, even though the resort offered a babysitter service.smh

 

[GrandmaBear]

Only one of the couples had a Baby monitor with them, the others chose that sketchy checking system, even though the resort offered a babysitter service.smh

Boy, I am sorry to judge, but that is really difficult to understand.

 

[Guess Who]

Only one of the couples had a Baby monitor with them, the others chose that sketchy checking system, even though the resort offered a babysitter service.smh

I really don't get that. I wouldn't have been able to enjoy myself. Why not at LEAST use the monitor?

 

[Cousin Dupree]

Yeah, I don't know. It sounded from the article as if seeing the log book would tell someone it was unlocked but I truly don't understand that. It would show what time they were out to dinner and I guess an employee could possibly provide a master key but it just sounded as if it was the book and employees knowing it was unlocked and even anyone seeing the book laying around... Did they perhaps trust staff to go in and check on the kids while they dined? The last thing most parents would do is leave kids in an unlocked motel room for any reason and out of country? IF it is true is also something to wonder about. This case I have always been very undecided about, one can listen to one show, etc. and believe one way and another and believe another way. I feel much the same in the Jon Benet Ramsey case. I hope they are onto something here but part of me says it seems just a bit too convenient and lucky after all of these years... However, he is one they had looked at and he certainly seems to have similar crimes that fit.

In hindsight it was stupid, but it is what it is. I can't put all the blame on the parents. They've been through hell.

 

[GrandmaBear]

In hindsight it was stupid, but it is what it is. I can't put all the blame on the parents. They've been through hell.

Without a doubt. What they deal with has to be horrendous.

 

[Kimster]

In hindsight it was stupid, but it is what it is. I can't put all the blame on the parents. They've been through hell.

This is exactly how I feel about it.