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Karen Read accused of backing into boyfriend and leaving him to die *NOT GUILTY* (Guilty of OUI) (5 Viewers)

Yeah, a common and stupid tactic by D attys showing too they think people stupid. They are basically testifying and trying to insert falsehoods as facts.

I reread your post and see what you meant now. And agree. Boy this guy gave it back. I mean he didn't cross lines but he allowed NONE of such to go on. I'd take him as an expert any day.
 
Tresir said:
So how many witnesses will D have? How many did they have in the first trial?
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I have no idea but I figure this much, first of all there is basically no one on her side she can call that can offer much substantive if any, they will have some experts and the rest will likely be mostly hostile witnesses, they may call Higgins or Proctor or the "former friends" she has screwed over or tried to. Jmo. They will draw it out though, it's what they do. They want the P case forgotten of course.
 
Lets say they call 50%, at least, thats 48 people. At 5 a day that's 10 days, so at the very least it will be another 2 weeks IMO.
 
Tresir said:
This article has a copy of the D witness list drawn up in March 2025. 91 people on it. This month an additional 4 witnesses were added. The names are in documents in this link.

www.nbcboston.com

Who will Karen Read's defense team call to testify? See the full list

Karen Read's defense team is expected to call its first witnesses this week. But who could they call to testify? Here's a closer look.
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Yeah i said it would be long. That's ridiculous imo as a list. It's what defenses like these guys do though. Typical and expected imo.

It's been her choice. It's been shown flat out that she did this, and that she lied, imo.

She could have, had they been willing, made a deal--never seen anything so ridiculous--ever.

It isn't like she knows herself innocent, she does NOT. And their story is a made up fantasy made to fit facts, not the other way around.

Jmo. I know all don't agree.
 
Tresir said:
I am getting trial fatigue.
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I cannot believe how many this time are going on at the same time. Of course the more currently publicized ones but tons of others too. I've seen it before but I don't think ever to this extent. Old ones, newer ones, you name it. Some are not being televised like Rogers, some are largely ignored as people who cover are on the better known ones, more current.

It's so ridiculous how the timetables end up all the same. It's like the courts do a part of summer and take the rest of the year off or some darned thing. Then what usually happens, at least what I've seen through the years, is a few months from now all is dull and not moving a bit.
 
www.cbsnews.com

Prosecution rests in Karen Read trial after 23 days of testimony

The prosecution rested its case Thursday after dozens of witnesses in the Karen Read trial as her defense attorneys will now begin calling witnesses.
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Will Karen Read testify?​

Unlike Read's first trial, the prosecution attempted to use her own words against her by playing various media interviews throughout the trial.
Read was asked while leaving court on Thursday if she plans to testify.
"TBD," Read said, adding that the defense expects its case to last 1.5 to 2 weeks. Read did not testify during her first trial.
Read said Matthew DiSogra, a digital forensic expert, will be the defense's first witness to take the stand.
When asked how she would sum up the prosecution's case, Read responded, "Unjust."

Who did the Karen Read prosecution not call?​

There were several differences in what witnesses the prosecution called in Read's second trial compared to the first. Adam Lally, the lead prosecutor in the first trial, called more than 60 witnesses, compared to 38 called by Brennan.
 
www.cbsnews.com

Karen Read's defense attorneys begin their case at trial; judge to rule on Michael Proctor's text messages

The Karen Read trial is now in the hands of the defense, which called its first witness Friday.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

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Testimony in Dedham's Norfolk Superior Court started at about 9:30 a.m. after Judge Beverly Cannone met with the attorneys. You can stream the trial live on CBS News Boston or in the video player above.
Read is accused of hitting her Boston police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe with her SUV and leaving him to die in the snow in Canton in January 2022. She has pleaded not guilty to charges of second-degree murder, manslaughter while operating under the influence of alcohol, and leaving the scene of personal injury and death. Her first trial in 2024 ended in a mistrial due to a hung jury.

Defense calls crash reconstruction expert​

The first witness called by the defense attorney Alan Jackson was Matthew DiSogra, a digital forensics expert who specializes in car data and crash reconstruction.
DiSorga said he analyzed prosecution witness Shanon Burgess' original report on data from Read's Lexus SUV on the night she allegedly hit and killed O'Keefe. Burgess had testified that Read drove in reverse around 12:32 a.m., almost the exact same time O'Keefe's cellphone stopped moving.
Jackson asked DiSogra whether O'Keefe could have locked his phone prior to the reverse event recorded on Read's car. DiSogra said no, the "lock event" happened after.
But when taking into account Burgess' updated report an how to calculate the difference between O'Keefe's phone clock and the SUV's clock, DiSogra noted that a few scenarios show that O'Keefe could have locked his phone before an alleged collision.
"Is there any ability to say to a degree of scientific certainty that the ... event occurred after the last physical interaction with John O'Keefe's phone?" Jackson asked.
"Yes, three out of the 30 possibilities would result in that," DiSorga said.
On cross-examination, special prosecutor Hank Brennan asked DiSorga why he didn't put together a report to show the basis of his opinions.
"Did you ever test Ms. Read's car?" Brennan asked. "Did you ever do any actual testing in this case?"
"No," DiSorga said.

Karen Read's defense​

Read said outside court on Thursday that the defense expects its case to last one-and-a-half to two weeks. Last year, the defense called all of its witnesses over the course of just two days.
It remains to be seen whether the defense will call key witnesses from the last trial who were not called by the prosecution this time around, including former 34 Fairview Road homeowner Brian Albert, federal agent Brian Higgins or fired Massachusetts State Police trooper Michael Proctor.
A WBZ-TV legal analyst expects that Jackson will handle the majority of the defense's case.

Karen Read's lawyer asks judge for not guilty finding​

Before jurors entered court on Friday, Jackson moved for a required finding of not guilty on all charges, a typical motion at this stage of a trial. He argued that there's no evidence that a collision occurred between Read's SUV and O'Keefe.
"No reasonable jury could find Karen Read guilty," he said. "This case never should have been brought in the first place."
Brennan countered that "any reasonable person could find that her conduct that night created a plain and strong likelihood of death."
Cannone immediately denied the defense's motion.

Michael Proctor's text messages​

The prosecution on Friday filed a motion opposing any efforts by the defense to call four witnesses to the stand who were in group chats with Proctor, arguing that the testimony would be "inadmissible hearsay."
"Michael Proctor is available to testify and could authenticate and perhaps adopt and acknowledge the statements sought to be introduced," prosecutors wrote.
In the first trial, Proctor admitted he sent "unprofessional and regrettable" text messages about the case, including texts that called Read a "whackjob [expletive]" and saying "hopefully she kills herself."

Prosecution rests in Karen Read case​

The final witness for the prosecution was crash reconstructionist Judson Welcher, a biomechanical engineer for Aperture LLC who was subject to intense cross-examination by the defense. Welcher's testimony included videos that showed him dressing up like O'Keefe on the night he died and performing tests with an SUV similar to Read's Lexus.
Before resting, Brennan played a documentary interview clip for the jury. In the video, Read remembers a conversation she had with defense attorney David Yannetti shortly after O'Keefe's death.
"Did he come and hit the back of my car, and I hit him in the knee and he's drunk and passed out and asphyxiated or something?" Read said in the clip. "You know, what if I ran his foot over, or what if I clipped him in the knee and he passed out or went to care for himself and threw up or passed out?"
 
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OMG Brennan is dismantling the defense "expert". I already was seeing through him on direct and now Brennan has him. He is NOT going to lie for the defense I will give the guy that. He did no tests, he is not certified in certain things and more and all of it is getting pointed out. The defense and KR have to be melting. They clearly tried to put someone up they purposely didn't ask to do and perform key tests and research. This guy follows the P ending with an exceptional expert and he is SO weak.

It's laughable, almost sad for the D though because it's so blatant. The guy was hired by D but wasn't asked for much and he is pretty much saying that when asked by Brennan.
 
Cousin Dupree said:
Now that the defense is up I'll try to catch reviews on "Closing Arguments"
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That's what you do with everything, watch one side. Only believe one side. No offense, but no surprise.

If Closing Arguments give anything to the defense today with their own witness, they are lying because their own witness was a loss for them and the only way you'd know that is by watching it.

Just saying.

A TOTAL loss and a big fail I think to put him up right after someone so good. And he was NOT going to lie for the defense, I will give him that.
 
GrandmaBear said:
That's what you do with everything, watch one side. Only believe one side. No offense, but no surprise.

If Closing Arguments give anything to the defense today with their own witness, they are lying because their own witness was a loss for them and the only way you'd know that is by watching it.

Just saying.

A TOTAL loss and a big fail I think to put him up right after someone so good. And he was NOT going to lie for the defense, I will give him that.
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They were saying that the defense probably won't call Proctor.
 
Cousin Dupree said:
They were saying that the defense probably won't call Proctor.
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I heard that as well, not entirely clear as to why. Any knowledge on that?

You know, this is your pet case but no offense, I think I've watched more of it and pretrial hearings than you. The actual stuff, not out of context. I of course can't in all cases, none of us can. It's far different though than watching recaps and sometimes I also have to depend on such.

This is a far different trial than the first. Brennan has done his job and they are leading, even after the D's first witness.
 
GrandmaBear said:
I heard that as well, not entirely clear as to why. Any knowledge on that?

You know, this is your pet case but no offense, I think I've watched more of it and pretrial hearings than you. The actual stuff, not out of context. I of course can't in all cases, none of us can. It's far different though than watching recaps and sometimes I also have to depend on such.

This is a far different trial than the first. Brennan has done his job and they are leading, even after the D's first witness.
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Yeah, I haven't been able to keep up. It seems stupid not to call him.
 
GrandmaBear said:
I heard that as well, not entirely clear as to why. Any knowledge on that?

You know, this is your pet case but no offense, I think I've watched more of it and pretrial hearings than you. The actual stuff, not out of context. I of course can't in all cases, none of us can. It's far different though than watching recaps and sometimes I also have to depend on such.

This is a far different trial than the first. Brennan has done his job and they are leading, even after the D's first witness.
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It's different for many reasons but mainly, the prosecution's focus was far more narrow.
The difference I see with the defense is that they didn't yell as much or as long at the prosecution witnesses.
(Seriously, it was so bad the last time, I actually felt dizzy and about that time, there was a juror who (also) wasn't feeling well.)
 
Cousin Dupree said:
Yeah, I haven't been able to keep up. It seems stupid not to call him.
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It does to me too. I mean for what they hope to try to do he is key imo. I'm not on the D side but will say that. Saw someone stupid say judge blocked but think that was typical internet junk by the KR fan club. I would like to know the reason though.

I have thought perhaps they have been unable to serve him maybe? I mean he would not be a willing D witness and would have to be served. That's one thought I've had...

I can talk both sides of this case, I made my decision long ago and nothing has changed it though. Doesn't mean I stilll don't want answers to things like this.

This is an entirely different trial. Brennan knew a lot of what to expect and he has laid that all in in their case this time ahead of time. Imo she has to be very worried right now as do they. With 90 something witnesses I think Tresir said they may try to flood with a lot of b.s. and get away from the P case but so far the solid witnesses are on the P side and they have been well prepared and he has laid the groundwork of already undermining the D case before the D is even up. I as a juror wouldn't fall for it.

From a well respected practicing D atty, the D gets one shot really and that's in a first trial. After that their chances drop phenomenally

As you likely know, my opinion also is this case is so overblown on both sides. I know we don't agree, or did not anyhow, but I have my opinion solidly formed. If this jury is truly untainted and knows little, she may well be convicted. Imo the best they can hope for is a hung jury.

I'm also sorry in that I find Ds disgusting when they try to get a story out via media but bitc* about publicity at the same time. It is SO hypocritical. I am also sorry that I find KR as disgusting as Lori Daybell even though their crimes are far different. She is like a brunette version of her to me. And she can't shut her yap but won't take the stand.

JUST my opinion. I've never had any issues agreeing that Proctor did not help here or of not perfect investigation. It just doesn't make her innocent to me and 50 people were not involved in some conspiracy. To me that is ridiculous. It's just a D using what they can to craft a story.
 
Regina said:
It's different for many reasons but mainly, the prosecution's focus was far more narrow.
The difference I see with the defense is that they didn't yell as much or as long at the prosecution witnesses.
(Seriously, it was so bad the last time, I actually felt dizzy and about that time, there was a juror who (also) wasn't feeling well.)
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The P is laying groundwork ahead of time for where the D may go is what I am seeing different in direct. The D is then in dangerous waters to go much into it on cross and so yes, some are very short. Alessi has with a couple thought he was some Perry Mason but it wasn't flying.

Their own first witness said he pretty much only addressed what Jackson asked him to do, another D technique. It ain't flying so far.

Not sure what your last sentence means or when you are talking of lol. Not been a great week here.
 
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