JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events

• April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
• December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
• February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
• February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
• June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
• July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
• August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
• September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
• September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
• September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
• September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
• October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
• October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
• October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
• October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
• Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
• November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
• November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
• December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
• December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
• December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
• January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
• January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee

The latest timeline in the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell cases - East Idaho News

REXBURG — Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua "JJ" Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

www.eastidahonews.com

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Chad and Lori Vallow Daybell are both serving life sentences in Idaho for murdering their families.

Keep up-to-date on this case at Crimewatchers.net!

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[GrandmaBear]

 

[GrandmaBear]

Live. 15 minutes in. On the LDS and more.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Interesting SHOW.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I am going to have to do a rewatch of this one. It went a bit off the main subject for awhile as his career has covered a lot of things. However, some of it is the subject most stay away from in this case.

I think Nate needs to decide if he is going to get to the real stuff or not. At least I'm noticing that lately.

 

[Kimster]

It's worth it for the reasons I guess that we both have stuck with this, but she is hard to take. At least it has been for me. She gets very amped up towards the end.

I totally get you and I'm struggling, just don't need her, imagine how the families feel if they see this if we do, but getting her b.s. and mindset I guess I feel I should.

Kind of seeing this entire thing out I guess. She hasn't talked almost throughout the yrs. or been able to.

A good part of it is I think she is just a has been and pretty easy to see through her imo. I guess she can get her prison ladies as part of her new cult/club.

I also don't like her being given these platforms but I guess we can say she got to say her piece and she can't complain. NOW she needs to as I think someone said above STFU.

And I am not one to cuss.

I broke down and watched it because it kept popping up in my feed. I really don’t have anything kind to say about her.

 

[Kimster]

Yeah IF a juror in this one hasn't caused a big problem.

I want her to stop getting platforms. She can't say now she hasn't had her chance to tell her side as we have both Dateline and this AZ news place. I mean I haven't even been able to watch the last minute and one half, I can't imagine how the families feel.

I don't disagree with all sides getting their side out. To a point. But in this one in a fairly rare thing, we KNOW a ton of the evidence and her side is NOT believable and she has been CONVICTED and sentenced to three life sentences. Enough.

I love Nate and I get news is news but this thing of chasing jurors with 50 cameras in their face I really don't agree with. I get that someone or most will do it regardless. LET them process and then try to contact. Hey, I'm one of the first to watch it so don't get me wrong if they get comments from a juror or family member after trial.

But it is a hard thing and I'm for justice first and people who it hits so hard with need some moments.

The juror that was on with both Nate and Justin said I think in both she hasn't even come off the trial yet or down from it. My words. I don't think she knew a thing but she even was stumbling over words and being careful.

It's a pipe dream but I wish they would leave all alone until they've had some time. Kay too, one could tell she was being nice being on with Justin and you name it but one could just tell she'd rather have had some time. I think she and Larry appreciate the coverage and the help it gave so they acquiesce but to thank all that covered, but one can just tell, they really are not ready for it.

Does she know about that juror’s comment? At least knew about it when she did that last interview? Because she kind of alluded to it.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I broke down and watched it because it kept popping up in my feed. I really don’t have anything kind to say about her.

I really do get it, I mean I could barely get through the last five minutes of it for hours. And it was only like a 21 minute video! I did think you should as we both really have done this case from day one and like her or not, it does show who she is, what victims dealt with and so on. I don't LIKE giving her air time believe me. Colby was on if I recall late last night, my sleep is so messed up I can't even keep things straight lately, but I know he is not happy about them giving her a platform and I don't disagree. It is very unfair they have to keep hearing this sh*t and going through it. Part of me does say though let her say her piece, she has had her chance, she used excuses to avoid the hard questions, well too bad Lori, you had your chance, and then take the platform away for good. I think I watched Nate and he was saying she won't talk to him but he'd like to talk to her. I want it all to STOP, can't imagine the families.

Not a big fan of the donut videos Nate has been doing but I guess it is an overall news channel lol. Not a fan of all reporters chasing the jurors either quite honestly. I don't think he got the interviews or as many as hoping for but who knows...

But yeah, I don't like watching her either but felt it necessary as to the glimpse into her I guess. I DO want them to take all platforms away now though. She had her chance, more than once. She alluded to another interview, wanting that reporter to get her statistics. OMG, NO.

I've hated a lot of defendants but boy she is right up there at the top having to listen to her! Knowing what she did!

 

[GrandmaBear]

Does she know about that juror’s comment? At least knew about it when she did that last interview? Because she kind of alluded to it.

Yeah, I'm not sure? She acts in every interview as if she can't see any news in jail, has no idea what anyone said and so on, but then there are times to doubt that. I've felt like maybe Summer or her mom, maybe an inmate's bf, or a guard, let her know things that are said or happening? She acts all coy about not knowing but not sure I buy it as there yes, have been moments I wonder... AS to the juror's comment, yeah, seemed she might have had a clue as to it... I can't fully remember, it wasn't right out there if I recall but a hint of it...? I remember worrying about it, I know that, that she knew.

Sorry, my sleep has been very messed up and all the cases and memory also, just not great lately.

Rachel Smith at least I know this and recall it has said this is no automatic retrial, let's PRAY such doesn't happen.

I also recall (some things stick lol) it was entirely clear she is not going to lay down or plead guilty to Brandon. Because she's innocent of everything, don'tcha know? God she is hard to stomach.

 

[Tresir]

Yeah, I'm not sure? She acts in every interview as if she can't see any news in jail, has no idea what anyone said and so on, but then there are times to doubt that. I've felt like maybe Summer or her mom, maybe an inmate's bf, or a guard, let her know things that are said or happening? She acts all coy about not knowing but not sure I buy it as there yes, have been moments I wonder... AS to the juror's comment, yeah, seemed she might have had a clue as to it... I can't fully remember, it wasn't right out there if I recall but a hint of it...? I remember worrying about it, I know that, that she knew.

Sorry, my sleep has been very messed up and all the cases and memory also, just not great lately.

Rachel Smith at least I know this and recall it has said this is no automatic retrial, let's PRAY such doesn't happen.

I also recall (some things stick lol) it was entirely clear she is not going to lay down or plead guilty to Brandon. Because she's innocent of everything, don'tcha know? God she is hard to stomach.

There's no doubt in my mind she would not abide by any rules about not looking stuff up. She probably has people doing it for her and keeping her updated.
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[GrandmaBear]

There's no doubt in my mind she would not abide by any rules about not looking stuff up. She probably has people doing it for her and keeping her updated.
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I'd bet on the same. She is a liar through and through. She always acts dumb most of the time anyhow about knowing anything being said amongst the public and news YET she motioned against TV to not be there and for portraying her wrongly, making money off her or something on that order, my words as to how I take it. She is only in COUNTY jail. I mean Maricopa may be huge but it's still county, not prison. We also know Emma was giving her canteen money, etc. from Chad and relaying messages back in Idaho.

She's not as good of a liar as she has always thought. She's given hints she KNOWS about media and things said, but then she pretends to be clueless. Among other obvious lies about the deaths and you name it.

So yes, I agree. There are all sorts of ways she'd hear this info.

She does not get how irrelevant she has become in the outside world that she will never be in again if this world works as it should for once.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Okay I''m not sure if I know how to post a short so I can try after this but I can tell who from, Gigi from Pretty Lies says that someone emailed (not really clear on who) that Lori should get the info of what the juror said. I'm not real clear on whether the court is saying that or someone else. I'm going to try to link it.

In comments underneath it someone says this was the same juror that got in a bit of trouble for talking about SS, supposedly was texting his daughter, and someone called him a bit slow.I honestly don't know if that is fact as I've not watched anything the last couple of days--my days have been absolutely crazy, the last couple of them, not sure I am going to be able to check it out but wanted to mention.

Why are people pounding and doing stuff in this place in the middle of the night??!!!!!

Going to try.

 

[GrandmaBear]

A juror that did not think Lori was guilty. I haven't seen all yet but the very thought is scary although she has another conviction. Watched some of. Not all of, not been a good day.far from it.

One thing though he says early on is what DID convince him was that there was a text that said he changed the beneficiary before WE got rid of him.... Or something on that order. Have a bit of brain fog lately but that pretty sure I have right. Then he talks of a few things but another big thing to him was she said she left the home barefoot and video showed her in sandals--we have heard that one but just adding it as he needed to be convinced, he just did not see the conspiracy. Again have not watched all yet but interesting already--It is a few days old so maybe others alreadhy know--again not been my week whatsoever.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I'm further through it now and it's kind of mixed but of course worth it, I don't feel ever not worth it to hear from a juror but I don't like it when people chase jurors down either and she tries to kind of get him to talk about if he knew the day before and such, and I find it a bit of a mixed bag with her. It's good don't get me wrong, well worth a watch just to hear from him. I guess one just has to watch to see the questions and such and so on. And his answers. I'll leave it at that.

 

[Tresir]

I'm further through it now and it's kind of mixed but of course worth it, I don't feel ever not worth it to hear from a juror but I don't like it when people chase jurors down either and she tries to kind of get him to talk about if he knew the day before and such, and I find it a bit of a mixed bag with her. It's good don't get me wrong, well worth a watch just to hear from him. I guess one just has to watch to see the questions and such and so on. And his answers. I'll leave it at that.

This is the juror that said something to the effect that when he drove home the day before he thought about the 3 others murdered or some thing like that. When he spoke to Nate in the street.

 

[GrandmaBear]

This is the juror that said something to the effect that when he drove home the day before he thought about the 3 others murdered or some thing like that. When he spoke to Nate in the street.

I believe it was about three life sentences. It was with Nate?

 

[GrandmaBear]

I'm not through it yet, these days I have to do things in pieces if even at all but it's worth the watch, I'm getting near the end. I feel on some questions he kind of falters a bit but overall pretty good interview, etc. Still have to finish but close to it.

 

[Kimster]

A juror that did not think Lori was guilty. I haven't seen all yet but the very thought is scary although she has another conviction. Watched some of. Not all of, not been a good day.far from it.

One thing though he says early on is what DID convince him was that there was a text that said he changed the beneficiary before WE got rid of him.... Or something on that order. Have a bit of brain fog lately but that pretty sure I have right. Then he talks of a few things but another big thing to him was she said she left the home barefoot and video showed her in sandals--we have heard that one but just adding it as he needed to be convinced, he just did not see the conspiracy. Again have not watched all yet but interesting already--It is a few days old so maybe others alreadhy know--again not been my week whatsoever.

This guy bothers me because he said he doesn’t remember when he found out Lori was serving two Life sentences. He doesn’t remember? But he didn’t know anything else about the case at all? It doesn’t make sense to me.

 

[Kimster]

I thought this juror was more credible. I do have to say I’m not familiar with this podcaster although I’ve heard that the families really like her. Why does she continue to turn her camera on and off? It’s annoying because I get distracted wondering what she might be doing. Thankfully I’m listening more than watching.

 

[GrandmaBear]

This guy bothers me because he said he doesn’t remember when he found out Lori was serving two Life sentences. He doesn’t remember? But he didn’t know anything else about the case at all? It doesn’t make sense to me.

The last thing any of us want is to see anything overturned.

Did you watch that one or another of his? With her, he kind of I don't know how to put it, didn't focus on that exact question when asked it. I mean he somewhat did in it and other questions. He said he was immediately googling the minute they were released to do so and he was still in the courthouse, that they had long week, lots of info and so on absorbed, and of course when the hit the street, reporters came at them, people were telling them what she'd done and more. He talked of how many cameras in his face and more. I did finish it and not sure what I thought overall, I liked him don't get me wrong, and I think most of us feel the right verdict got reached. I'd think or hope it would not be overturned as if anything he was feeling her innocent to the end almost.

He said he is planning or hopes to attend Brandon's trial. Wants to see how everything is done, integrates, all my words are paraphrasing. Sounds like someone not attn seeking, not a camera type, hard to say, didn't really want to serve even.

I get you though. His remark has certainly caused a bit of a thing. If he knew though, like I said he thought her innocent until like closing and deliberations...

 

[GrandmaBear]

I thought this juror was more credible. I do have to say I’m not familiar with this podcaster although I’ve heard that the families really like her. Why does she continue to turn her camera on and off? It’s annoying because I get distracted wondering what she might be doing. Thankfully I’m listening more than watching.

Is this Lauren? I did finish the other one and yeah, she has a lot of the family members who trust them and are on there or even in the chats. Colby, Kay, Megan (cousin) and so on. Husband is a psychologist I think (I mix the two up)--they aren't my favorites, I'll say that, but in this case, yes, they get a lot of the families and such. He cites tons of books and things and speculates re diagnoses of like Lori and other people he's never met. I don't always agree by a long shot. I will say though she goes and attends the trials and such. I think she used to be in news. I mean I will watch them, not like I hate them or anything, but she also gets together and on with the big T (Taco Bell) and knows her just so you know.

I'll take a look, pretty sure it is their channel.

Anyhow I'm kind of back and forth on them, for more reasons than I mentioned--but to give credit, again she attends and has followed this throughout or from somewhat early on.