Four students murdered at University of Idaho *ARREST*

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Got my Masters degree from here. :(

Killer who stabbed 4 Idaho students to death still at large​

The killer — or killers — who stabbed four University of Idaho students to death remained at large Tuesday, prompting many students to leave the campus in the idyllic small town despite police assurances that there was no imminent risk to the community.

So many students had left the scenic tree-lined campus in Moscow, Idaho, by Tuesday that university officials said a candlelight vigil scheduled for the next day would instead be held after the Thanksgiving break.

The students, all close friends, were found dead in an off-campus rental home around noon on Sunday, and officials said they likely were killed several hours earlier. Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabbutt told the Spokane, Washington-based television station KXLY that her preliminary investigation showed the students were stabbed to death. There is no indication that substance use was involved in the deaths, Mabbutt said.
 
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SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
I feel like, if anything, it's the prosecution that's taking a risk on this one. Something like "bushy eyebrows" is so subjective, even with photos. (His eyebrows will no-doubt be meticulously groomed for the trial.)
I know that and his eyes were really the only part of his actual body that was visible, but still. I'd rely more on DNA, his vehicle, etc. than his eyebrows.
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They will have the video when he and his father were pulled over in his car so they will be able to show that his eyebrows were bushy at the time. If he shaves them off or meticulously grooms them, it can be construed as a sign of guilt, similar to disposing of clothes worn at the time, for example.
 
Tresir said:
That's exactly what i was thinking when i just read that. How ridiculous.
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Most of what I am hearing is the defense just doesn't have anything and are scrambling, and that the evidence is there. I haven't had a chance to keep up perfectly but have kept up with a fair bit. Of course eyewitnesses are not always perfect and ideally are not the only thing and it certainly isn't the only thing in this case. In the Nancy Grace one above too, they talk about her hearing his voice and how the voice can come in per Dylan's testimony. Makes me think of Delphi. Might not be the only thing but it all adds up together. Confessions, evidence, witnesses, etc.

I recall when I first heard the right voice comparison and I KNEW it was RA. And I had others through the yrs, I thought it COULD be but NOTHING definite like that. The one was like zero percent chance it was anyone else.

But again it wasn't the only evidence. It all has to come together. Same here in this case.

In NG they touched on the traffic stop and how he talked and there is video and voice, etc. Whereas just like in RA/Delphi they try not to talk as they know their voice might be recognized BUT there are instances of the voice in videos, LE interviews, etc.

We all know/most that BK had bushy eyebrows. She also heard his voice saying he'd help Zana (probably spelled wrong), Xana,

Dylan will probably be under pressure from the D if it goes to trial to admit to drinking, etc. So what? It takes it all coming together and they are college kids, not like worst thing ever others have not done. But some things stood out to her. Not unusual either. And there is far more evidence than just her. It is just part of the cumulative evidence.

Idaho got it right with both Chad and Lori, on Tammy, JJ and Tylee. No major direct evidence. I do think they seal too much and go too far that way, regardless, juries usually get it right if the prosecutor knows how to get it all across.

I am just talking generally I guess more than to anyone.

Dylan remembered some key things drinking or not. That is NOT unusual. And it isn't like the whole trial will hinge on her and bushy eyebrows. There is a lot more.

Tne D is in trouble here, their idiot client did not leave them a lot to help him out... My opinion. Jmo.
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
www.kmvt.com

Judge rules lawyers cannot mention Kohberger’s autism diagnosis

A judge ruled on Friday that Kohberger’s lawyers cannot mention his autism diagnosis to the jury unless he takes the stand in his defense.
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Judge rules lawyers cannot mention Kohberger’s autism diagnosis​

A judge ruled on Friday that Bryan Kohberger’s lawyers cannot mention his autism diagnosis to the jury unless he takes the stand in his defense.

His lawyers said mentioning it would explain what might be perceived as odd behavior while he sits at the defense table. The judge disagreed, stating that his demeanor was not relevant.

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Judge rules roommate of slain Idaho students can testify suspect had ‘bushy eyebrows’

The surviving roommate of four slain Idaho University students can testify that the intruder she witnessed enter their off-campus home in a ski mask had “bushy eyebrows,” according to a…
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Judge rules roommate of slain Idaho students can testify suspect had ‘bushy eyebrows’​

The surviving roommate of four slain Idaho University students can testify that the intruder she witnessed enter their off-campus home in a ski mask had “bushy eyebrows,” according to a ruling released Friday.

Boise Judge Steven Hippler gave the green light for the eyebrow testimony after a tense hearing between the prosecutors and defense, who have been battling over what evidence will be permitted during the August trial of murder suspect Bryan Kohberger.
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Did they say what sort of odd behaviour? Making faces or staring or twitching perhaps. Will have to watch out for that.
 
Tresir said:
Did they say what sort of odd behaviour? Making faces or staring or twitching perhaps. Will have to watch out for that.
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A short read, finally read it. Autism is no excuse for what he did. It may be mitigating later on, and that's even doubtful imo. People have watched him in how many hearings all suited up and acting totally fine, engaged. The defense is desperate imo.

Mel has said it a million times and so will I, you can have issues, or mental issues, but you do NOT MURDER. And in this case, plot, plan, kill, hide things. FOUR PEOPLE.
 
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Reason Idaho murder victims' roommate didn't call 911 for 8 hrs finally revealed

ONE of the surviving roommates where four University of Idaho students were killed did not immediately call police because she mistook her friend for being passed out drunk, according to court docu…
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Bryan Kohberger court filing reveals reason Idaho murder victims’ roommate didn’t call 911 for 8 hrs despite seeing body​

ONE of the surviving roommates where four University of Idaho students were killed did not immediately call police because she mistook her friend for being passed out drunk, according to court documents.

On the night of the murders, Dylan Mortensen texted Bethany Funke saying she heard "strange noises and crying" and when she peeked out of her bedroom door a "man in black with a ski mask" walked by.

"I'm freaking out rn," Mortensen told Funke, adding "I'm not kidding o [sic] am so freaked out."

When Mortensen told Funke her cell phone's battery was about to die, Funke instructed her to come to her room.

"Run," she texted her, adding, "Down here."

As Mortensen sprinted toward Funke, she passed Xana Kernodle's room and noticed her roommate "lying on the floor of her bedroom," court documents revealed.

However, Mortensen told investigators she believed "Xana was drunk."
 

Kohberger trial: Court docs show why roommates waited to call 911​

Court documents in the murder trial against Bryan Kohberger reveal that one of the two surviving roommates of the University of Idaho murders in 2022 waited hours to call 911 because she thought her slain roommate was asleep.

The roommate, referenced as “D.M.” in the court documents, did not alert police to the gruesome scene because she believed her roommate was intoxicated when she saw her lying on the floor of her bedroom, according to court documents filed this week.

The documents state that at “approximately 4:00 a.m., D.M. heard strange noises and crying coming from the bathroom. She opened her door at one point and saw a man dressed in black with ski mask on walking by her bedroom door. She then placed calls and texts to her other roommates to see if they were awake.”

She reached out to the other surviving roommate, listed in the documents as “B.F.”, who was the only one to answer. They exchanged multiple texts about being “freaked out” and questioning who the man in the ski mask was.

D.M. attempted to reach her two roommates without a response and decided to go to B.F. As she made her way, “she noticed Xana lying on the floor of her bedroom, with her head towards the wall and her feet toward to the door. D.M. thought (Xana Kernodle) was drunk,” the documents state.

The two surviving roommates stayed in the room and attempted to reach their other roommates again unsuccessfully. D.M. texted Kaylee Gonclaves, “Pls answer.”

In the early morning hours, D.M. attempted to contact Gonclaves and Madison Mogen without response, which the decision read she thought was “strange because they were ‘early wakers’.” She then asked her friend and her friend’s boyfriend to come over because she was afraid.

The boyfriend told the women to get out of the house and call 911, the documents say.

B.F. called 911, and spoke with a dispatcher for nearly five minutes. She said one roommate was passed out drunk and not waking up, and that they saw a man in their house the night before.

Unbeknownst to the surviving roommates at the time, Ethan Chapin, Goncalves, Kernodle, and Mogen were murdered.
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
www.the-sun.com

Reason Idaho murder victims' roommate didn't call 911 for 8 hrs finally revealed

ONE of the surviving roommates where four University of Idaho students were killed did not immediately call police because she mistook her friend for being passed out drunk, according to court docu…
www.the-sun.com www.the-sun.com

Bryan Kohberger court filing reveals reason Idaho murder victims’ roommate didn’t call 911 for 8 hrs despite seeing body​

ONE of the surviving roommates where four University of Idaho students were killed did not immediately call police because she mistook her friend for being passed out drunk, according to court documents.

On the night of the murders, Dylan Mortensen texted Bethany Funke saying she heard "strange noises and crying" and when she peeked out of her bedroom door a "man in black with a ski mask" walked by.

"I'm freaking out rn," Mortensen told Funke, adding "I'm not kidding o [sic] am so freaked out."

When Mortensen told Funke her cell phone's battery was about to die, Funke instructed her to come to her room.

"Run," she texted her, adding, "Down here."

As Mortensen sprinted toward Funke, she passed Xana Kernodle's room and noticed her roommate "lying on the floor of her bedroom," court documents revealed.

However, Mortensen told investigators she believed "Xana was drunk."
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She is likely going to go through a hard cross exam if it gets to trial. I think it is somewhat understandable to most of us. It was beginning to seem in the last things I'd heard and the messages that she did dash and leave her room yet was in fear. So she saw Xana then... Sad really. I think it is understandable to a point all were out drinking and whatever and a very strange thing was noticed but again it was a party type place with several roommates...

Going to read post before commenting further because it probably tells more.
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:

Kohberger trial: Court docs show why roommates waited to call 911​

Court documents in the murder trial against Bryan Kohberger reveal that one of the two surviving roommates of the University of Idaho murders in 2022 waited hours to call 911 because she thought her slain roommate was asleep.

The roommate, referenced as “D.M.” in the court documents, did not alert police to the gruesome scene because she believed her roommate was intoxicated when she saw her lying on the floor of her bedroom, according to court documents filed this week.

The documents state that at “approximately 4:00 a.m., D.M. heard strange noises and crying coming from the bathroom. She opened her door at one point and saw a man dressed in black with ski mask on walking by her bedroom door. She then placed calls and texts to her other roommates to see if they were awake.”

She reached out to the other surviving roommate, listed in the documents as “B.F.”, who was the only one to answer. They exchanged multiple texts about being “freaked out” and questioning who the man in the ski mask was.

D.M. attempted to reach her two roommates without a response and decided to go to B.F. As she made her way, “she noticed Xana lying on the floor of her bedroom, with her head towards the wall and her feet toward to the door. D.M. thought (Xana Kernodle) was drunk,” the documents state.

The two surviving roommates stayed in the room and attempted to reach their other roommates again unsuccessfully. D.M. texted Kaylee Gonclaves, “Pls answer.”

In the early morning hours, D.M. attempted to contact Gonclaves and Madison Mogen without response, which the decision read she thought was “strange because they were ‘early wakers’.” She then asked her friend and her friend’s boyfriend to come over because she was afraid.

The boyfriend told the women to get out of the house and call 911, the documents say.

B.F. called 911, and spoke with a dispatcher for nearly five minutes. She said one roommate was passed out drunk and not waking up, and that they saw a man in their house the night before.

Unbeknownst to the surviving roommates at the time, Ethan Chapin, Goncalves, Kernodle, and Mogen were murdered.
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Really sad actually. I'm really not sure why you wouldn't check even if passed out. I guess young, scared. Passed out could have been bad. Probably worried Xana would get in trouble, or she would, pretty hard to say, especially after seeing a guy in a mask and thinking you heard things. Or why not when with the other roommate, the two get a plan and go check.

I'm not coming down on them simply saying they are going to get cross exam hard imo.

Trying to find words--let's say you thought your friend OD'd on drugs and was on the floor, wouldn't you want to check if still alive and help? I'm thinking she may not have known Ethan was there? Or had stayed the night? Because that's another thing, one could wake up the bf and say is she okay?

I'm giving grace though for the age and the fact who would ever think someone would come in and do something like this. They didn't ask for it, know it, expect it.

It's tough to handle difficult situations and some can, some can't and some do better than others and they were all so young.

I do have a bit of an issue even if passed out, and after seeing a masked man and being in her own words freaked out I think, the two together didn't check things out some.

It's just going to be I think a hard time on the stand for them with the D.

It does not change though the evidence against Kohberger. I'm fairly impressed with this P and LE. They did their job and they are on this imo. So far anyhow. The D is looking lousy because the alleged perp didn't leave them much to defend him with.
 
I'm guessing if she thought her roommate was passed out, drunk, in the floor it wasn't out of the ordinary. I can't imagine the guilt she must live with. :(
 
I'm the type that would guilt myself though. I do such over a lot of things much less minor than this. And the way people have went on about it, she full well might guilt herself.

I recall talk of one perhaps still being alive but I think that was due to this talk that 911 was told someone was just unconscious, no one probably was really alive, hard to say. What monster to do this.

I don't know if passed out on the floor was ordinary so much as she just wasn't going to call cops to the home, very hard to say what her reasoning was imo at least. I'd think you'd check a friend on the floor, I mean people can OD from alcohol too, or maybe there was more to it she was worried about. I recall a lot of speculation they were clearing drugs out of the home, but not sure there was a bit of basis to that, and that's before I believe we knew she ran to the other roommate's room.

It's certainly an odd reaction to be that freaked by a masked man but then not check on the friend or call 911 especially when there are now two of you together.

I don't think there probably is any blame deserved, and they all were young and just partying like young often do but I come back to she is going to probably go through some hard cross on the stand. They'll prepare her for such, which is legal, as much as they can I guess.

Not sure if I said it in here, may have been in Daybell, but Nate Eaton has decided to cover this case, however, I don't think he is going to jump on it until after Brandon's trial (Daybell) is over. To my knowledge, he has not covered any of the hearings and such so far, at least I've caught none that I can recall. Planning on the trial I think at least, for sure.

Not even sure what to say, what happened here would be absolutely terrifying for someone of a young age, it would be for us older folk too but most of us would call 911 I'm fairly certain. That's the hard part to understand I think. She is freaked over a masked man but just thinks the friend passed out drunk... I'm not blaming as see no reason either of them deserve any blame at this point, but I think it is hard for people to understand.
 
Agree as well. He killed all and left knowing he ensured they all were not going to survive. Jmo.

I only think because of how the D has made an issue of her that she will go through some hard cross exam.

However, I also think the D is in trouble/a pickle without much. I've marginally kept up on this one while Daybell was going on, not fully but enough.

*just to add, i try not to use their names, might forget at times but mostly don't use but their names are well known and use. i don't see a reason to add to that though so try not to. The roommates I mean.

I don't see any reason they should guilt selves at this point. Just a bit hard to understand for all. Comes down to this for me at the moment, none of course asked for this or expected this. A monster came. Period. That's where I'm at with it. And the D has tried to make him some troubled guy, etc. No dice with me.
 
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