PA ELIZA TALAL: Missing from Lansdale, PA - 4 Aug 2020 - Age 5 Found Deceased

GrandmaBear · Aug 4, 2020

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
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Police Search for Missing Montgomery County Girl With Autism

Police are searching for a young Montgomery County girl with autism who went missing on Tuesday.

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Police Search for Missing Montgomery County Girl With Autism

Police are searching for a young Montgomery County girl with autism who went missing on Tuesday.

Eliza Talal was last seen at noon on Tuesday at her home on Spring Valley Road in Lansdale, Pennsylvania. Eliza is autistic and non-verbal and police believe she is at special risk of harm or injury.

Eliza is described as an Asian girl standing 3-foot-6 and weighing 40 pounds with short brown hair and brown eyes. She was last seen wearing a white onesie t-shirt with short sleeves and no shoes.

The girl went missing while Tropical Storm Isaias slammed the region with heavy rain and wind though police have not revealed whether they believe her disappearance was weather-related.

URGENT: Nonverbal autistic girl vanishes amid Tropical Storm Isaias, police say

Authorities in Pennsylvania have asked for the public’s help in locating a 5-year-old girl who reportedly vanished Tuesday. The Towamencin Township Police Department said in a Facebook post that Eliza Talal was last seen around noon on Spring Valley Road in Lansdale. Police said they believe...

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URGENT: Nonverbal autistic girl vanishes amid Tropical Storm Isaias, police say

Authorities in Pennsylvania have asked for the public’s help in locating a 5-year-old girl who reportedly vanished Tuesday.

The Towamencin Township Police Department said in a Facebook post that Eliza Talal was last seen around noon on Spring Valley Road in Lansdale. Police said they believe Talal is as “special risk” for injury as she’s nonverbal and autistic.

Additional details were not made available. WCAU reported that police haven’t confirmed whether Talal’s disappearance is related to Tropical Storm Isaias, which caused floods and power outages in the region.Posts by: Jacquelyn Gray

Sometimes I don't even have words. Another autistic non-verbal child?

Prayers for another innocent, I hope she is found safe.

Sllywbbt32 · Aug 4, 2020

GrandmaBear said:
Sometimes I don't even have words. Another autistic non-verbal child?

Prayers for another innocent, I hope she is found safe.

You took the words right out of my mouth. How does this keep happening? I'm keeping her in my thoughts and prays that this case does not end the same way as so many others recently.

GrandmaBear · Aug 4, 2020

Sllywbbt32 said:
You took the words right out of my mouth. How does this keep happening? I'm keeping her in my thoughts and prays that this case does not end the same way as so many others recently.

So true. There just seem to be a big rash of certain things lately... I keep trying to figure out why but I guess sometimes there is no rhyme or reason. I do wonder with the autism if maybe schools or help that was available is not since Covid or something and so parents do not have as much respite? Not that that excuses anything, depending on what happened here, but boy there seems to be a number of them... For a few months now...

I too hope this one is different and they find her safe. And quickly.

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed · Aug 4, 2020

Hmmmmm.

Girl With Autism, Missing During Storm, Found Dead

A young Montgomery County girl with autism and a Delaware County teenager are missing while two women from Lehigh County and Delaware are dead after Tropical Storm Isaias ripped through the region on Tuesday, causing widespread flooding, damage and power outages.

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Eliza Talal, 5, was last seen at noon on Tuesday at her home on Spring Valley Road in Lansdale, Pennsylvania, when she went missing. Sources told NBC10 the girl wandered outside at the height of the storm.

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed · Aug 5, 2020

Girl With Autism, Missing During Storms, Drowns in Floodwaters

Police in Montgomery County on Wednesday continued a ground and air search for a 5-year-old girl with autism who went missing during a day of dangerous conditions caused by Tropical Storm Isaias.

www.nbcphiladelphia.com

Girl With Autism, Missing During Storms, Found Dead

Police Wednesday found the body of a 5-year-old girl with autism who had gone missing the day prior as Tropical Storm Isaias battered the region.

After a ground and air search, the body of Eliza Talal was found Wednesday morning in Fischer’s Park, about two miles from her home. Police said she had wandered outside the home on the 2000 block of Spring Valley Road in Lansdale during the height of the storm.

The girl, who was nonverbal, disappeared at the height of a damaging day caused by the effects of Tropical Storm Isaias. Police said she may have been carried away as the creek behind her home swelled, eventually coming to a rest in a section of Towamencin Creek at Fischer's Park.

Crews also found Talal's iPad in the water.

Body of 5-year-old girl with autism found after she went missing during storm

She had wandered outside in the Philadelphia suburbs during Tropical Storm Isaias, police said.

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Body of 5-year-old girl with autism found after she went missing during storm

A Pennsylvania child is among those who died as Tropical Storm Isaias hit the East Coast, bringing tornadoes and flooding.

According to NBC10, the body of Eliza Talal was found Wednesday morning after a ground and air search. Police said she had wandered outside her home in Lansdale during the height of the storm. Her body was found near the Towamencin Creek, which had swollen overnight due to rain from the storm, the Philadelphia Inquirer reports.

GrandmaBear · Aug 7, 2020

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
Girl With Autism, Missing During Storms, Drowns in Floodwaters

Police in Montgomery County on Wednesday continued a ground and air search for a 5-year-old girl with autism who went missing during a day of dangerous conditions caused by Tropical Storm Isaias.

www.nbcphiladelphia.com

Girl With Autism, Missing During Storms, Found Dead

Police Wednesday found the body of a 5-year-old girl with autism who had gone missing the day prior as Tropical Storm Isaias battered the region.

After a ground and air search, the body of Eliza Talal was found Wednesday morning in Fischer’s Park, about two miles from her home. Police said she had wandered outside the home on the 2000 block of Spring Valley Road in Lansdale during the height of the storm.

The girl, who was nonverbal, disappeared at the height of a damaging day caused by the effects of Tropical Storm Isaias. Police said she may have been carried away as the creek behind her home swelled, eventually coming to a rest in a section of Towamencin Creek at Fischer's Park.

Crews also found Talal's iPad in the water.

Body of 5-year-old girl with autism found after she went missing during storm

She had wandered outside in the Philadelphia suburbs during Tropical Storm Isaias, police said.

www.pennlive.com

Body of 5-year-old girl with autism found after she went missing during storm

A Pennsylvania child is among those who died as Tropical Storm Isaias hit the East Coast, bringing tornadoes and flooding.

According to NBC10, the body of Eliza Talal was found Wednesday morning after a ground and air search. Police said she had wandered outside her home in Lansdale during the height of the storm. Her body was found near the Towamencin Creek, which had swollen overnight due to rain from the storm, the Philadelphia Inquirer reports.

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The found her Ipad in the water? The other little boy I think it was a phone. Both children found down stream, down river, etc. I am not being facetious, I am trying to figure out, because I do not know, do autistic children have a fascination with water and is it common for them to leave home with electronics? I think all kids have some fascination with water, but I mean more so? This girl went outside in the height of a storm right? I do not see most children doing that.

So in this case, she ended up at a park but not in the water? Washed to shore from the water at the park? Per this article she was found adjacent to the creek or something...

Body Of Missing 5-Year-Old Eliza Talal Found In Fischer's Park In Towamencin Township

Police believe Eliza was swept up in the flooded creek behind her family's home after she left home during the height of Tropical Storm Isaias.

philadelphia.cbslocal.com

To go back to whether they have a fascination with water, it seems to me I would not live somewhere near water then if one has a choice.

I am still just finding out about this so first reaction. I will say I have never seen such a rash of drownings with children as the past couple of months, many autistic and some not, like the two toddlers. Some foul play, some apparently they decided not.

I will say outright that drowning is probably one of the toughest to prove I would think whether a child fell in accidentally or someone put them in like the woman who apparently thought that but was caught on camera pushing her son in, for the 2nd time after someone saved him the 1st time...

There seem to be clusters lately of certain types of cases and another is parental abductions.

So maybe not live near water if one has a choice. Apparently the door lock and security system for autistic children getting out needs to be upgraded in some homes. This remark is now a bit, maybe unfairly, facetious and judgmental but cripes there are sooooo many of these lately... Why??

GrandmaBear · Aug 7, 2020

Body of 5-Year-Old Eliza Talal Who Vanished During Tropical Storm Isaias Found in Pennsylvania

Eliza Talal, 5, went missing as Tropical Storm Isaias roared through her neighborhood.

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GrandmaBear · Aug 7, 2020

Typical news. One article says found near the creek, another sounds like in the creek.

Directions - Fischer’s Park - Lansdale, PA

Wow my map worked. LOL, so surprised. Anyhow she went missing from Spring Valley Road, didn't have an address so just put the road in. Guessing they must live on the back part of the loop as this is the nearest to the creek. The creek does then go from there to the park... The line is the road map... The creek does go along generally as well along this route....

I also just realized in one article that it was a resident that found her...

RIP Eliza.

Guess Who · Aug 7, 2020

GrandmaBear said:
The found her Ipad in the water? The other little boy I think it was a phone. Both children found down stream, down river, etc. I am not being facetious, I am trying to figure out, because I do not know, do autistic children have a fascination with water and is it common for them to leave home with electronics? I think all kids have some fascination with water, but I mean more so? This girl went outside in the height of a storm right? I do not see most children doing that.

So in this case, she ended up at a park but not in the water? Washed to shore from the water at the park? Per this article she was found adjacent to the creek or something...

Body Of Missing 5-Year-Old Eliza Talal Found In Fischer's Park In Towamencin Township

Police believe Eliza was swept up in the flooded creek behind her family's home after she left home during the height of Tropical Storm Isaias.

philadelphia.cbslocal.com

To go back to whether they have a fascination with water, it seems to me I would not live somewhere near water then if one has a choice.

I am still just finding out about this so first reaction. I will say I have never seen such a rash of drownings with children as the past couple of months, many autistic and some not, like the two toddlers. Some foul play, some apparently they decided not.

I will say outright that drowning is probably one of the toughest to prove I would think whether a child fell in accidentally or someone put them in like the woman who apparently thought that but was caught on camera pushing her son in, for the 2nd time after someone saved him the 1st time...

There seem to be clusters lately of certain types of cases and another is parental abductions.

So maybe not live near water if one has a choice. Apparently the door lock and security system for autistic children getting out needs to be upgraded in some homes. This remark is now a bit, maybe unfairly, facetious and judgmental but cripes there are sooooo many of these lately... Why??

she was most likely swept up by a very swollen creek and they found her at what would be the edge of the flooded area, which depending on the terrain, could be quite a ways from the actual creek bed and in the park.

I'm just more stumped by how she got away so easily from them DURING a storm. I guess I would have to know more about the layout of their home for that.

GrandmaBear · Aug 7, 2020

Guess Who said:
she was most likely swept up by a very swollen creek and they found her at what would be the edge of the flooded area, which depending on the terrain, could be quite a ways from the actual creek bed and in the park.

I'm just more stumped by how she got away so easily from them DURING a storm. I guess I would have to know more about the layout of their home for that.

Yes, once I mapped it, I do see the creek follows from there pretty much and I feel for the parents and do not want to judge, they are likely devastated. There just have been so many of these kind of cases lately though! Any parent who claims they were perfect and never had a scare, I would never believe--we all have to sleep and more and sometimes you don't have help or a support system.

It just seems so odd to me though the numbers lately. It also has me questioning a lot about autism. Just in the last month or two, so very many.... A child going out during a major storm, is there a fascination with that? I freely admit I do not know a lot about it. I just know it has become far more common, and I know a few of the alleged reasons for that, but not a lot about that either...

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed · Aug 7, 2020

GrandmaBear said:
do autistic children have a fascination with water and is it common for them to leave home with electronics?

Yes.

Why Are Children with Autism Drawn to Water? - AngelSense

learn why children with autism are drawn water, what increases their wandering risk and what you can do to prevent autism wandering.

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Drowning is a leading cause of death in children with autism

Wandering | National Autism Association

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Autism and Water: Why Autistic People Are Drawn to Water - AquaMobile Swim School

Why are children with Autism naturally drawn to water? Read this article to find out the key information you need to know about Autism and water safety.

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And yes. Cell phones, iPads, etc. have lots of apps nowadays to help kids with autism communicate. Also:

Autism and Screen Time: A Must-Know Connection for Parents

Get insights into navigating the world of autism and screen time. Learn how to strike a balance that supports their development.

www.autismparentingmagazine.com

Furthermore, autistic children are prone to repeating specific patterns of behavior, which makes it difficult to interact with others. This is why digital devices provide an escape to autistic children, where predictable outcomes allow them to perform according to their own pace. Research says that autistic children spend more time on screen than children who do not have autism.

GrandmaBear · Aug 7, 2020

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
Yes.

Why Are Children with Autism Drawn to Water? - AngelSense

learn why children with autism are drawn water, what increases their wandering risk and what you can do to prevent autism wandering.

www.angelsense.com

Drowning is a leading cause of death in children with autism

Wandering | National Autism Association

nationalautismassociation.org

Autism and Water: Why Autistic People Are Drawn to Water - AquaMobile Swim School

Why are children with Autism naturally drawn to water? Read this article to find out the key information you need to know about Autism and water safety.

aquamobileswim.com

And yes. Cell phones, iPads, etc. have lots of apps nowadays to help kids with autism communicate. Also:

Autism and Screen Time: A Must-Know Connection for Parents

Get insights into navigating the world of autism and screen time. Learn how to strike a balance that supports their development.

www.autismparentingmagazine.com

Furthermore, autistic children are prone to repeating specific patterns of behavior, which makes it difficult to interact with others. This is why digital devices provide an escape to autistic children, where predictable outcomes allow them to perform according to their own pace. Research says that autistic children spend more time on screen than children who do not have autism.

I did not know this. Interesting. I was looking up some other things to do with it just now but not this part. I am older and I remember hearing of autism as a child but it was far from seemingly common like today. However things were different then and perhaps it was hidden more.

So the mom whose boy was saved by a stranger the first time she pushed him into the water likely knew the water fascination. I am not saying that happened here in this case but it did in that case, she was on video, and then did it a second time. And there certainly are a number of children with autism lately that have disappeared or died. The Srans are charged for Thaddeus and the woman I just mentioned was charged.

Perhaps support systems or respite care has not been as available or something... There is no denying the ones that were charged, and that they were very recent. I still wonder about the one in Colorado.

However, I also want to stress that in no way do I know that is the case here and I feel for the parents. We have had no cause of death yet, we have confirmation the child was found is all I think?

SheWhoMustNotBeNamed · Aug 15, 2020

Family, friends remember 5-year-old Eliza Talal during Harleysville vigil

You typically don't hear Disney tunes at a vigil for someone who's passed away. But Friday, at Fischer Park in Harleysville, Montgomery County Disney tunes were played to honor 5-year-old Eliza Talal which were her favorite songs.

6abc.com

Family, friends remember 5-year-old Eliza Talal during Harleysville vigil

You typically don't hear songs from "Frozen" at a vigil for someone who's passed away.

But on Friday, at Fischer Park in Harleysville, Montgomery County Disney tunes were played to honor 5-year-old Eliza Talal which were her favorite songs.

As they played, her mother wept.

"I will miss her so much and life won't be the same without her," said Yusra Talal.

The tragic death of their daughter happened as Tropical Storm Isaias flooded the area.

Officials say Eliza, who had special needs, slipped out of the house.

She was found the next morning, August 5, near a tree in the park.

Officials said she drowned.

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PA ELIZA TALAL: Missing from Lansdale, PA - 4 Aug 2020 - Age 5 Found Deceased