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Greece BEN NEEDHAM: Missing from Kos, Greece - 24 July 1991 - Age 21 months (1 Viewer)

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Toddler, Ben Needham, went missing on the Greek island of Kos. His mother Kerry, from Sheffield, has always maintained he was abducted.


Media - http://crimewatchers.net/index.php?...s-greece-since-24-july-1991-age-21-months.91/
 
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Kimster said:
There was composition in the toy and it couldn’t of been Ben’s? Really? Who’s was it?
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When I read that, I actually started wondering where they got the DNA sample they are using to compare to because was there another dead child with a toy at another time? Really? I guess it's possible... And is it human decomposition in the soil, seems a bit unclear. And then the leather too...
 
www.thestar.co.uk

Mum of Sheffield boy who disappeared on holiday issues fresh appeal on anniversary of disappearance

The mother of Sheffield boy, Ben Needham, who vanished while on a family holiday has issued a fresh appeal on the 31st anniversary of his disappearance.
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Ben Needham: Mum of Sheffield boy who disappeared on holiday issues fresh appeal on disappearance anniversary​

Sunday, July 24, 2022 marked 31 years since Ben went missing from the Greek Island of Kos in 1991 when he was just 21-months-old.

Although police believe Ben died in a tragic accident involving a digger, his body has never been found; and his mother, Kerry Needham, has never given up hope that he may still be alive.

Kerry revealed Ben’s case now has a new senior investigating officer (SIO) as she issued a fresh appeal to find her son, through a message posted on the Help Find Ben Needham Facebook group exactly 31 years after he disappeared.

She said: “As today marks 31 years since Ben disappeared my family and I would like to thank everyone for your continued support.

“Ben’s case now has a new SIO and she is a DCI (detective chief inspector) we are delighted to still have the help and support of South Yorkshire police and any information will be followed up to the best of our ability.

"Anyone with any information can contact us or the police directly, we are still hopeful that we will find the answers to exactly what happened to Ben.”


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www.express.co.uk

Missing Ben Needham's mother seeks answers after boy's body found in river

The boy's body was wrapped in foil and weighed down with a flagstone in the German river.
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By CIARAN MCGRATH
15:47, Sat, Sep 2, 2023 | UPDATED: 16:13, Sat, Sep 2, 2023
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1808703/ben-needham-missing-germany-police#conversation-wrapper
The mother of Ben Needham, the British toddler who disappeared from a Greek island more than 30 years ago, has urged UK police to launch an investigation after a boy’s body was found in a German river.

Kerry Needham, who has never accepted her son is dead, has contacted South Yorkshire Police after seeing an Interpol appeal aimed at identifying the child, whose body was apparently dumped in the River Danube.
 
Summer_Breeze said:
www.express.co.uk

Missing Ben Needham's mother seeks answers after boy's body found in river

The boy's body was wrapped in foil and weighed down with a flagstone in the German river.
www.express.co.uk www.express.co.uk

By CIARAN MCGRATH
15:47, Sat, Sep 2, 2023 | UPDATED: 16:13, Sat, Sep 2, 2023
Missing Ben Needham's mother seeks answers after boy's body found in river
The mother of Ben Needham, the British toddler who disappeared from a Greek island more than 30 years ago, has urged UK police to launch an investigation after a boy’s body was found in a German river.

Kerry Needham, who has never accepted her son is dead, has contacted South Yorkshire Police after seeing an Interpol appeal aimed at identifying the child, whose body was apparently dumped in the River Danube.
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I recall almost all about this case but I don't understand why when her child disappeared in GREECE some 32 years ago she would insist the UK police launch an investigation over a child's body in a GERMAN RIVER and think this would be her son?
 
GrandmaBear said:
I recall almost all about this case but I don't understand why when her child disappeared in GREECE some 32 years ago she would insist the UK police launch an investigation over a child's body in a GERMAN RIVER and think this would be her son?
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She’s been desperate to find her son since day one. Either way, they need to find out who this child is in that River immediately.
 
Kimster said:
She’s been desperate to find her son since day one. Either way, they need to find out who this child is in that River immediately.
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I don't disagree. What I was wondering is IF I am missing something and there is something I don't recall and some reason she'd think he was not in Greece but there and that a body found there today would be his. It isn't in Greece. So am I forgetting some key detail?

I get wanting it determined for all who this child is, that's different than calling for an investigation. I guess I am thinking there is more or something I am forgetting.

I was not intending my post at the mother at all in case anyone took it that way. Again, I am wondering the reason for maybe feeling this might be him. And like I said, wondering if there was something in the case I am not recalling that would. Like in Madeline McCain, even though it was Portugal, there is reason they have left those shores as suspects have traveled, etc. so in that one it makes sense. I am wondering if there is something like that in this one, a reason.
 
GrandmaBear said:
I don't disagree. What I was wondering is IF I am missing something and there is something I don't recall and some reason she'd think he was not in Greece but there and that a body found there today would be his. It isn't in Greece. So am I forgetting some key detail?

I get wanting it determined for all who this child is, that's different than calling for an investigation. I guess I am thinking there is more or something I am forgetting.

I was not intending my post at the mother at all in case anyone took it that way. Again, I am wondering the reason for maybe feeling this might be him. And like I said, wondering if there was something in the case I am not recalling that would. Like in Madeline McCain, even though it was Portugal, there is reason they have left those shores as suspects have traveled, etc. so in that one it makes sense. I am wondering if there is something like that in this one, a reason.
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I think the article Ben''s mother posted on her Facebook site could be the explanation.

 
In case you don't do Facebook here is a link to the article:

neoskosmos.com

Baby without a name grows into a man on a quest to find family

“I was born in Greece in 1953 and I was found on a doorstep of a house in a suburb of Athens, near the university area, Zografou (east of Athens) …
neoskosmos.com neoskosmos.com

That was her comment about the article:

Child Trafficking is becoming something we are all learning about at the Find Ben Campaign and we are now starting to question if this could have happened to Ben and even be linked to the lead in Corfu. Kerry would like to personally thank Iaonnis Kalos for sharing his story with her and chatting directly with her.

#helpfindbenneedham #childtraffickingawareness #abduction
 
Whatsnext said:
In case you don't do Facebook here is a link to the article:

neoskosmos.com

Baby without a name grows into a man on a quest to find family

“I was born in Greece in 1953 and I was found on a doorstep of a house in a suburb of Athens, near the university area, Zografou (east of Athens) …
neoskosmos.com neoskosmos.com

That was her comment about the article:

Child Trafficking is becoming something we are all learning about at the Find Ben Campaign and we are now starting to question if this could have happened to Ben and even be linked to the lead in Corfu. Kerry would like to personally thank Iaonnis Kalos for sharing his story with her and chatting directly with her.

#helpfindbenneedham #childtraffickingawareness #abduction
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I so appreciate your help. I just read about this man and feel like a fell down a rabbit hole of a different case that has no relation to this one. What a life he has endured, it is sad but also hopeful in how he has now found some of his answers at least on his paternal side. I hope he gets after finding his mother as she'd not be young (or got after since this was a few years ago already).

I don't see how it relates to Ben. These were Greek orphans and in his case an abandoned baby who was later adopted out by horrible Long Island American people. Sounds like they should e in prison for child abuse to me. Ben would have had to be kidnapped and he wouldn't have ended up in some Greek adoption process of Greek orphans. I guess if there was money involved, they'd adopt out any kid for the $$ but I still don't see it, regardless of how it was done there was a legal adoption and an international one, our govt. sent him papers showing him what they had on his story/adoption. This man was born in the 50s, Ben disappeared in the 90s. I don't know if I would exactly call it trafficking in a true sense either.

I feel like I went into a completely different case and subject after reading his story. That is what is on my mind now. I find myself wondering about the girl who was adopted with him by the same cruel parents and how she fared with them, that is never mentioned. No reason to mention it as they weren't related, I just wonder how it turned out for her. And of course wonder about his mother, as he I'm sure does. A very interesting read.

I feel for Ben's mom and her maintaining hope. It appears we may likely never know what happened to Ben no doubt, it has been decades. I doubt he is alive personally and I doubt he was trafficked and inf act think it very unlikely. I can understand her maintaining hope though and trying to find answers of course..

I could more easily believe Madeline McCann was trafficked before I could believe Ben was, even for adoption. And I don't believe for a minute Madeline was. I can believe a pedo kidnapped her though. In neither case do I think there will be satisfactory answers ever. I am not relating the cases, just saying such because both are looking beyond the borders of the country they disappeared in although in Madeline's there is reason to do so because of what's his face, a suspect. In this one I still don't see the reason. And how? What did they do spirit him away on a boat or plane? I find it very far fetched. Of course, not knowing Greece or being able to really picture it all, or know the ways and atmosphere, who am I to say? But I sure have read the case through the years and I doubt this possibility.

If he was kidnapped at all, it would likely be the usual reason, for the use of one person and then he was done away with sadly . It is few that keep them, especially when it is know and publicized that they have disappeared.

Again it is hard to relate these two cases and I don't even see how this man's story relates to trafficking. There was documentation and what was I gather a "legal" international adoption at the time. There wouldn't be paperwork if he was simply sold on some black market or underground trafficking thing.

I didn't read the FB link so maybe I am missing something but I read the entire article about him. I think it in no way relates to the case here and muddies things to make no sense. It is different eras, different circumstances, it isn't "trafficking", this man didn't disappear, etc. It's like reading at two entirely different forums, on different subjects, in different times.

I hope answers for Ben are found and I hope this man finds his mother and that side of his family. The two relate in no way.

I also don't see how it relates to this child found in a river would be Ben. Could it be him or any missing child? Of course. But I fail to see how a man born in the 50s and adopted at the age of five in Greece has one bit to do with anything here or a body found in a river. Or I have really lost my mind and am not grasping something.

Thank you for filling me in. This man's story on its own was a very interesting read. For someone adopted as a baby and looking for answers as to who he is., answers he has found many of. What any of it has to do with Ben, I have no idea.
 
GrandmaBear said:
I so appreciate your help. I just read about this man and feel like a fell down a rabbit hole of a different case that has no relation to this one. What a life he has endured, it is sad but also hopeful in how he has now found some of his answers at least on his paternal side. I hope he gets after finding his mother as she'd not be young (or got after since this was a few years ago already).

I don't see how it relates to Ben. These were Greek orphans and in his case an abandoned baby who was later adopted out by horrible Long Island American people. Sounds like they should e in prison for child abuse to me. Ben would have had to be kidnapped and he wouldn't have ended up in some Greek adoption process of Greek orphans. I guess if there was money involved, they'd adopt out any kid for the $$ but I still don't see it, regardless of how it was done there was a legal adoption and an international one, our govt. sent him papers showing him what they had on his story/adoption. This man was born in the 50s, Ben disappeared in the 90s. I don't know if I would exactly call it trafficking in a true sense either.

I feel like I went into a completely different case and subject after reading his story. That is what is on my mind now. I find myself wondering about the girl who was adopted with him by the same cruel parents and how she fared with them, that is never mentioned. No reason to mention it as they weren't related, I just wonder how it turned out for her. And of course wonder about his mother, as he I'm sure does. A very interesting read.

I feel for Ben's mom and her maintaining hope. It appears we may likely never know what happened to Ben no doubt, it has been decades. I doubt he is alive personally and I doubt he was trafficked and inf act think it very unlikely. I can understand her maintaining hope though and trying to find answers of course..

I could more easily believe Madeline McCann was trafficked before I could believe Ben was, even for adoption. And I don't believe for a minute Madeline was. I can believe a pedo kidnapped her though. In neither case do I think there will be satisfactory answers ever. I am not relating the cases, just saying such because both are looking beyond the borders of the country they disappeared in although in Madeline's there is reason to do so because of what's his face, a suspect. In this one I still don't see the reason. And how? What did they do spirit him away on a boat or plane? I find it very far fetched. Of course, not knowing Greece or being able to really picture it all, or know the ways and atmosphere, who am I to say? But I sure have read the case through the years and I doubt this possibility.

If he was kidnapped at all, it would likely be the usual reason, for the use of one person and then he was done away with sadly . It is few that keep them, especially when it is know and publicized that they have disappeared.

Again it is hard to relate these two cases and I don't even see how this man's story relates to trafficking. There was documentation and what was I gather a "legal" international adoption at the time. There wouldn't be paperwork if he was simply sold on some black market or underground trafficking thing.

I didn't read the FB link so maybe I am missing something but I read the entire article about him. I think it in no way relates to the case here and muddies things to make no sense. It is different eras, different circumstances, it isn't "trafficking", this man didn't disappear, etc. It's like reading at two entirely different forums, on different subjects, in different times.

I hope answers for Ben are found and I hope this man finds his mother and that side of his family. The two relate in no way.

I also don't see how it relates to this child found in a river would be Ben. Could it be him or any missing child? Of course. But I fail to see how a man born in the 50s and adopted at the age of five in Greece has one bit to do with anything here or a body found in a river. Or I have really lost my mind and am not grasping something.

Thank you for filling me in. This man's story on its own was a very interesting read. For someone adopted as a baby and looking for answers as to who he is., answers he has found many of. What any of it has to do with Ben, I have no idea.
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I agree with you and don't know how she thinks this all could have a connection. I just wanted to show you that for her EVERYTHING could be related to Ben. It is very sad.
 
Whatsnext said:
I agree with you and don't know how she thinks this all could have a connection. I just wanted to show you that for her EVERYTHING could be related to Ben. It is very sad.
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I appreciate it. It made no sense to me how she thought so to begin with and after seeing this and why she thought so, it made even less so you did show me that. It is sad. Calling it a huge reach or gigantic leap doesn't even describe it. The only thing I see at all for reason to think this about this body is that it is a dead child found on this earth and so yes, it could be Ben based on that alone. I don't think it likely though unless there is something we don't know.
 
Whatsnext said:
www.mirror.co.uk

Body of toddler found weighed down in river could be missing Brit, cops believe

Ben Needham’s mum Kerry has been searching for her 21-month son ever since he vanished from the Greek island Kos in 1991, and says she has alerted South Yorkshire Police to a fresh Interpol appeal
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Well, can't hurt to look into it. I am glad that hopefully a family out there will get some answers.
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Yes, they definitely do need to find out who this child is,not just whether it is Ben as this headline suggests but whether it is Ben, Jake, Josh, Tom, etc.

I don't know much about such things and haven't read all the info but they know it is a boy's body. That would suggest to me the body hasn't been there for decades. Or they some other way pretty quickly ascertained this info that the body is that of a male child.
 
www.bbc.com

German river body not missing Sheffield boy Ben Needham - police

Ben, from Sheffield, was 21 months old when he disappeared on the Greek island of Kos in July 1991.
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German river body not missing Sheffield boy Ben Needham - police​

The body of a child found in a river in Germany is not that of missing boy Ben Needham, police have confirmed.

South Yorkshire Police has now confirmed a DNA sample from the body did not match the toddler's DNA.

A force spokesperson said Ben's family had been informed and was being supported by officers.

"Our thoughts remain with the young boy who is yet to be identified and, of course, the Needham family who continue in their search for answers," they said.
 

Ben Needham's mother Kerry posts heartbreaking birthday message to her missing son​

The mother of Ben Needham has posted a heartbreaking message on social media on what is her missing son's 34th birthday.

Writing on Facebook, Kerry Needham said: "Happy birthday my beautiful boy.

"We will never stop searching for you and the truth to what happened to you.

"Always in my mind and heart."
 
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