WA ARIEL GARCIA: Missing from Everett, WA - 27 March 2024 - Age 4 *Found Deceased*

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Police: 4-year-old Everett boy may be missing under ‘suspicious circumstances’​

Police in Everett are looking for a 4-year-old boy who was last seen Wednesday morning.

Ariel Garcia is Hispanic with brown hair and brown eyes. He is 3 feet, 1 inch tall and weighs 37 pounds. There is no description of what he was wearing.

The Washington State Patrol issued an endangered missing person alert.

He was last seen around 7 a.m. Wednesday in an apartment in the 4800 block of Vesper Drive. Everett police cruisers were seen outside the apartment building and there is crime scene tape in the courtyard. Officers were inside a unit processing evidence. They have since left.

Everett Police officers and search and rescue teams are looking for the child, who may be missing under suspicious circumstances after leaving the apartment with a family member.

Police say he may be in danger. Officers have been communicating with his mother and family.

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A breakdown of the events before and after 4-year-old Ariel Garcia's disappearance, murder
Then came Wednesday, when KATU obtained court documents showing that police received information that Janet and Ariel stayed overnight with a friend in Everett, and that when her friend returned, there was blood at the home, and Ariel and Janet were gone.

KATU obtained surveillance video of what appears to be Janet Garcia on Wednesday, at around 3:40 p.m., parking what police had identified as a car of interest in the case. The car was parked in a parking lot of a taproom in Ridgefield. She appears to be walking out of the car toward Northeast 10th Avenue.

That night Clark County deputies found Janet at a rehabilitation center in Ridgefield, which was walking distance from where the car was parked.

In court documents a detective noted blood splatters on Janet's shoes and shirt.

A man named Daniel was at the center that night and saw Janet. He said Janet's mom called someone who attends the center looking for her.

I guess that they were looking for the son, that he was missing. I think she didn’t know where her daughter was, she didn’t know where Janet was. She had given little details, like they couldn’t find the little boy,” said Daniel.

Daniel gave that information to deputies.

“So I had initially called it in and told them that she was here, because I got informed that she was here, then I got here a little bit later,” said Daniel.

Once Daniel got there, he did see Janet.

“She was calm. She was calm. She seemed normal,” said Daniel.

But he was also helping the authorities.

I was working with them. How is she acting and, you know, things like that and, you know,” said Daniel. “They took her. I don't know if you'd call it arresting, but they were questioning her. “

Janet was later booked into Clark County Jail on a charge of making a false statement to a public servant.

In an affidavit, a detective says Janet claimed she left her car in Seattle, and took a bus to Ridgefield. But police found her car parked nearby. She also told police that her son hit his head, but could not tell them how. She then claimed she took Ariel to a hospital, but the wait was too long, so she dropped him off with a friend in Seattle.

Then at 7:45 p.m. Thursday night, Everett police shared that they found Ariel's body off the side of Interstate 5 in Pierce County.


On Friday, Janet was arrested on charges of murder in the first and second degree, and assault of a child in the first degree and booked at the Snohomish County Jail.
 

Washington mother accused of killing, stabbing 4-year-old son 16 times: report​

A Washington state mother is accused of savagely murdering her 4-year-old son, Ariel Garcia, by stabbing the child more than 16 times, according to court documents obtained by Fox 13.

Janet Garcia, 27, is charged with first-degree and second-degree murder, as well as assault of a child. The documents state that she also lied to police about what happened several times.

Garcia allegedly used a "sharp force object" to kill her son and attempted to flee, police told Fox 13.

Police were initially called to an apartment that Janet and Ariel had been staying at, where the homeowners noticed a large amount of blood on the floor, according to court documents.

Upon arrival, Fox 13 reported that police cut out the carpeting, where they found the blood had seeped into the carpet padding and onto the subflooring, leading them to believe a serious injury had occurred.

In a text message conversation between Janet and another woman, Janet said Ariel fell, so she took him to the hospital. However, it was later revealed that Janet was in a group home in Ridgefield, where police later contacted her.


Just before 6 p.m. on Thursday, March 28, after an hours-long search, Everett police were notified that a body had been located along an interstate in Pierce County. Detectives responded to the location and were able to confirm the deceased was Ariel.

Detectives said that Ariel's body was wrapped in a blanket and that there were around 16 sharp-force wounds to the front of his body, as well as a cluster of wounds to his upper back.
 
Lawmaker says Ariel Garcia's death shows gap in Washington law to protect kids
“It was just a day late with the emergency placement with the grandmother,” said Rep. Travis Couture, R – District 35. “Had we removed little Ariel and placed with grandmother, that would have been the perfect scenario."

"It’s a kinship care," Couture said. "It’s still biological family, but it would have given the state and the mother a chance to go through treatment.”

Couture proposed a bill this year that would change the state code to say drug use by the caretaker of a child would constitute "reasonable grounds to believe removal is necessary."

Couture's bill did not advance in the legislature, but S.B. 6109 did pass, which instructs courts to give "great weight" to substance abuse when deciding whether removal is necessary.

“If someone is on hard drugs like meth, heroin, or fentanyl, they’re not thinking about taking care of their child. They are thinking about getting their next hit," Couture said.
 

EVERETT — Ariel Garcia’s grandmother feared what was coming.

The grandmother applied for emergency guardianship on March 24, an order approved two days later. Within hours of losing custody, Janet Garcia killed her 4-year-old son and fled to southwest Washington, according to Everett police.

The grandmother argued Janet Garcia’s drug use made her “very violent and unpredictable” — and if she were notified of the guardianship case, “she may harm me or try to run away with Ariel and harm him in the process.”

The case has raised a number of pressing questions.

Why didn’t police issue an Amber Alert?

Why did it take a full day to issue an Endangered Missing Persons Advisory alert that made phones buzz around the region?

Could anything else have been done to keep Ariel Garcia safe?

Local police and court authorities were reluctant to address those questions directly, when asked by a Daily Herald reporter this week.

The day after the grandmother filed her petition in court, Snohomish County Superior Court Commissioner Nicole Wagner approved a temporary emergency guardianship and restraining order. It needed to be served within 48 hours.

Wagner, via the court’s administrator Andrew Somers, declined to comment on the case because it remains active. The court also declined any further interviews about emergency orders in general.

Ariel’s grandmother went with her son and daughter-in-law, who planned to serve Janet Garcia, 27, with the paperwork on March 27. But the Vesper Drive home was empty. They reportedly saw a large amount of blood on the floor. So they called police.

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More at link. ~Summer
 
I am in no way sticking up for our system here but this was all done pretty fast considering our system. which in no way ever moves fast. Anyone that know me knows I am not complimentary towards our system. No excuse though, there is a child dead.

The grandma and son and daughter in law were going to serve Janet Garcia? I can only guess son is dad? Why is it he did not file for emergency guardianship? And why is it three people were going to serve her and if the relationship is volatile, emotional or possibly dangerous why the heck would those involved be serving papers themselves rather than authorities or there be any direct contact?

I went into the link which I don't and can't always take time for these days and sure enough, son and DIL were going to serve the papers and grandma went with is that that says. They found no one home but saw a blood stain allegedly and called LE. They were there as the emergency restraining or protective order needed to be served within 48 hours once approved. Tell me how it is mom knew such was granted or hearing held or whatever? This all sounds like an ex parte process to me. In other words, when dangerous and in immediate danger, only one side goes in a judge to get an emergency order. And while states vary and in some anyone can serve papers, why in a process like this where there is an EMERGENCY would the other party be going with three family members to do so without LE, and so on?

I don't think we have the full story here.

The child is dead and somehow mom knew this order was granted. I don't in general agree with ex parte stuff but if this was then how did she know such was granted or she would be served and lose him? And why were three people from what is apparently the other side/opposing side going to serve her instead of the person who got the order and a cop only?

The boy is dead and clearly it appears mom killed him. But there are some serious questions here and not just the ones that one side of this probably contentious relationship/custody/etc is talking. As far as the blood stain did they look in windows or enter the home? Why did the other parent not file for emergency placement? If the son is the father, and couldn't file for emergency placement, why the heck was he with to serve an order and his wife as well?

If the facts are what they are purported to be and this woman killed her son, do NOT get me wrong, let her pay with life in prison.

It doesn't mean however, there isn't something more going on here. I don't mean necessarily with his murder, I mean between these parties, how she found out, why three of them would be going to serve her, did someone call her and brag they won, seriously.

I don't know if this was ex parte but it sounds like it. In cases where someone might be in extreme and immediate danger, you say so, give proof and the other party has no clue. Sure sounds like that was the case here or should have been but then if granted and such danger and emergency why would one side be going with three people to serve one woman and not a cop, etc. instead?

I also have to ask what is the history here? Between all these people? WAs there and had their been contentious custody fights? Was son ever married to mom and does he have any drug issues and so on? Again why didn't he seek the order?

If mom killed the boy and it seems she did, it is not the who did it or the crime I am questioning and she needs to rot. But there are some serious questions here and not just the ones one family is saying or asking about LE and the courts.

As far as an Amber Alert, I've said it in other threads recently. Imo any missing child should have one with no criteria and at least children under a certain age should, until found. I know that is dreaming and that would be cumbersome on states, LE and so on and thered' be a call and alert for any kid missing for ten minutes in some cases, but the ORIGINAL Amber Alert was not what this b.s. is these days. WI has one on Elijah Vue and he meets none of the criteria usually required these days in that they say he was not abducted and did not go off on his own. And the friend and parent are under arrest already for neglect. Yet he has an active Amber Alert.
 
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Everett mom accused of stabbing her child 41 times charged with his murder​

An Everett woman accused of brutally stabbing her 4-year-old son and dumping his body near Joint Base Lewis-McChord (JBLM) has been charged with the boy's murder.

An autopsy of the child revealed that he had been stabbed 41 times. Investigators initially reported that he had been stabbed 16 times-- the wounds were so deep that some appeared as one large gash instead of over 40 separate stab wounds, according to court documents.


According to charging documents, the child's grandmother also filed for emergency custody of Garcia's other child, Ariel's 7-year-old half-brother, the same day Ariel was reported missing.

The documents said "family members observed the Defendant [Garcia] being physically and verbally aggressive" towards her two children.

When investigators spoke to the 7-year-old after his mother's arrest, he said that Garcia had been "hurting him a lot" and that she was "too aggressive with him," according to court documents.

The child alleged his mother choked him and dragged him down the stairs, and that his head hurt as a result. He said his head still hurt days later, when she allegedly pulled him out of his bed, causing him to hit his sore head again, court documents said.

Garcia has been charged with first-degree murder-domestic violence.

Bail has been set at $5 million.
 
A breakdown of the events before and after 4-year-old Ariel Garcia's disappearance, murder
Then came Wednesday, when KATU obtained court documents showing that police received information that Janet and Ariel stayed overnight with a friend in Everett, and that when her friend returned, there was blood at the home, and Ariel and Janet were gone.

KATU obtained surveillance video of what appears to be Janet Garcia on Wednesday, at around 3:40 p.m., parking what police had identified as a car of interest in the case. The car was parked in a parking lot of a taproom in Ridgefield. She appears to be walking out of the car toward Northeast 10th Avenue.

That night Clark County deputies found Janet at a rehabilitation center in Ridgefield, which was walking distance from where the car was parked.

In court documents a detective noted blood splatters on Janet's shoes and shirt.

A man named Daniel was at the center that night and saw Janet. He said Janet's mom called someone who attends the center looking for her.

I guess that they were looking for the son, that he was missing. I think she didn’t know where her daughter was, she didn’t know where Janet was. She had given little details, like they couldn’t find the little boy,” said Daniel.

Daniel gave that information to deputies.

“So I had initially called it in and told them that she was here, because I got informed that she was here, then I got here a little bit later,” said Daniel.

Once Daniel got there, he did see Janet.

“She was calm. She was calm. She seemed normal,” said Daniel.

But he was also helping the authorities.

I was working with them. How is she acting and, you know, things like that and, you know,” said Daniel. “They took her. I don't know if you'd call it arresting, but they were questioning her. “

Janet was later booked into Clark County Jail on a charge of making a false statement to a public servant.

In an affidavit, a detective says Janet claimed she left her car in Seattle, and took a bus to Ridgefield. But police found her car parked nearby. She also told police that her son hit his head, but could not tell them how. She then claimed she took Ariel to a hospital, but the wait was too long, so she dropped him off with a friend in Seattle.

Then at 7:45 p.m. Thursday night, Everett police shared that they found Ariel's body off the side of Interstate 5 in Pierce County.


On Friday, Janet was arrested on charges of murder in the first and second degree, and assault of a child in the first degree and booked at the Snohomish County Jail.
I have not heard anything about this case. DAMIT!!!! EVIL!!!
 

Everett mom of stabbing her child 41 times charged with his murder​

An Everett woman accused of brutally stabbing her 4-year-old son and dumping his body near Joint Base Lewis-McChord (JBLM) has been charged with the boy's murder.

An autopsy of the child revealed that he had been stabbed 41 times. Investigators initially reported that he had been stabbed 16 times-- the wounds were so deep that some appeared as one large gash instead of over 40 separate stab wounds, according to court documents.


According to charging documents, the child's grandmother also filed for emergency custody of Garcia's other child, Ariel's 7-year-old half-brother, the same day Ariel was reported missing.

The documents said "family members observed the Defendant [Garcia] being physically and verbally aggressive" towards her two children.

When investigators spoke to the 7-year-old after his mother's arrest, he said that Garcia had been "hurting him a lot" and that she was "too aggressive with him," according to court documents.

The child alleged his mother choked him and dragged him down the stairs, and that his head hurt as a result. He said his head still hurt days later, when she allegedly pulled him out of his bed, causing him to hit his sore head again, court documents said.

Garcia has been charged with first-degree murder-domestic violence.

Bail has been set at $5 million.
The family observed her being too aggressive with him. No one did anything!!!! I'm sure his head did hurt. Hitting every step. 41 times!!!! Well family members. Live with that!!!
 
The family observed her being too aggressive with him. No one did anything!!!! I'm sure his head did hurt. Hitting every step. 41 times!!!! Well family members. Live with that!!!
Yes. Horrible. And grandma DID file and get like an emergency custody. On the one side, not her family. About done for tonight and this one is new so have to look at a couple things I am pretty sure of but want to point out. And actually may have above somewhat. Not to you as you weren't here but about the case.

Mom most definitely is the evil POS that killed however I do have a thought or two or glimpse with the other side that I have to ask WHY would you do that with someone like her.

And then yes family told about the abuse, head hurting and still hurting days later.

Not sure if I have all correct, I definitely need to get more than an hour or two's sleep but think I do and I see a LOT wrong here. May she FRY OF COURSE, that's a given. However she won't because Washington does not have the DP. Formally abolished in April of 2023 not long ago and also taken all provisions out of all state law for capital punishment. Of course last time they executed anyone was 2010 anyhow so a joke.

So all the horrific murders of innocents and elderly and more with the most heinous of acts and cold blooded of acts they illegally give the death penalty to the victims alog with torture in many cases but the evil perps we should give a tablet, a chance to get, out, pizza, their own TV and I think we both could go on coudn't we? And how does it seem that's working out? SURE let them out all nicely nicel, let Jeffs run his cult from prison, I could name 50 other outrageous things off the top of my head right now.

Anyhow who followed Daybell knows Lori's remark to the cops and her voice and attitude, "Oh sorry neighbors" hee hee. That's the voice I hear from these perps and the system, tee he well sorry victims. Oh well.

Governor Jay Inslee abolished and changed all of the state code/law realting to the DP.

So I guess this woman will be given a tickle on the wrist for what she did to this child when she meted out his DP.
 
Yeah. IDK HOW THE HE77 Warren Jeffs could do that from prison!!! That is believed the missing 16 yr old is being hidden by the FDLS. He makes me absolutely sick!!! I read she was forced into marriage at 13!!! Yes. SHE DESERVES DEATH!!! THAT BOY SUFFERED!!! And lethal injection is too easy. The punishment should fit the crime. Plenty of people would volunteer. If someone hurt my dad. They better hope the police find them before I do. IDC!!! Minnesota has become ridiculous for letting serious offenders out early. They are releasing a man next month for a 1983 murder that was tied to him in 2019 by DNA. He raped, Murdered, And dumped a 17 year old by the train tracks in north Minneapolis. That is OUTRAGEOUS!!!!
 
Yeah. IDK HOW THE HE77 Warren Jeffs could do that from prison!!! That is believed the missing 16 yr old is being hidden by the FDLS. He makes me absolutely sick!!! I read she was forced into marriage at 13!!! Yes. SHE DESERVES DEATH!!! THAT BOY SUFFERED!!! And lethal injection is too easy. The punishment should fit the crime. Plenty of people would volunteer. If someone hurt my dad. They better hope the police find them before I do. IDC!!! Minnesota has become ridiculous for letting serious offenders out early. They are releasing a man next month for a 1983 murder that was tied to him in 2019 by DNA. He raped, Murdered, And dumped a 17 year old by the train tracks in north Minneapolis. That is OUTRAGEOUS!!!!
This is happening almost everywhere any more and so many just stay silent on it. Well they are going to live in this world many of them long after we are gone. Thank goodness we lived for a time when justice made sense and was justice resuled in appropriate sentences and crime was low. And the country was not flooded with people just allowed to come and go as they please with no documentation or knowledge of many a one, where they are, who they are, etc. as well.

You do NOT release someone like you are talking with rape, murder of a child and DAN evidence even. BUT that's what is unbelievably going on these days. Almost everywhere.

No argument here. NONE.
 
This is happening almost everywhere any more and so many just stay silent on it. Well they are going to live in this world many of them long after we are gone. Thank goodness we lived for a time when justice made sense and was justice resuled in appropriate sentences and crime was low. And the country was not flooded with people just allowed to come and go as they please with no documentation or knowledge of many a one, where they are, who they are, etc. as well.

You do NOT release someone like you are talking with rape, murder of a child and DAN evidence even. BUT that's what is unbelievably going on these days. Almost everywhere.

No argument here. NONE.
Yep. Minnesota especially has been overrun by immigrants. They get everything handed to them. But my situation gets worse. I'm drowning. There are approximately 33 million illegal immigrants in the US.
 
Mother pleads not guilty after allegedly stabbing 4-year-old son 'up to 41 times'
A Washington state mother accused of killing her 4-year-old son and leaving his body on the side of the interstate pled not guilty to charges in Snohomish County Superior Court.

Janet Garcia, 27, was charged with first-degree murder and domestic violence with a deadly weapon, with aggravating factors of domestic violence and vulnerable victim.

According to court filings, investigators believe Janet Garcia stabbed her 4-year-old son, Ariel Garcia, “up to 41 times” in a gruesome attack inside an apartment on Vesper Drive in Everett on March 27.
 
Mother pleads not guilty after allegedly stabbing 4-year-old son 'up to 41 times'
A Washington state mother accused of killing her 4-year-old son and leaving his body on the side of the interstate pled not guilty to charges in Snohomish County Superior Court.

Janet Garcia, 27, was charged with first-degree murder and domestic violence with a deadly weapon, with aggravating factors of domestic violence and vulnerable victim.

According to court filings, investigators believe Janet Garcia stabbed her 4-year-old son, Ariel Garcia, “up to 41 times” in a gruesome attack inside an apartment on Vesper Drive in Everett on March 27.
Not guilty. Okay JANET what PLANET are you on?

Unless they are making it up and really railroading you, I think they have you dead to rights. Stabbing a child of your own up to 41 times.

There is a very special place for you. But maybe the defense attorneys from nowadays or public defenders can actually turn it for you with the b.s that now goes on. You are 27 and kinfed your son to death and beyond. I have caved to using this and held off all my life but too much since I caved in the last few weeks. WTF are YOU?

And you are going to plead not guilty and who knows end up with a deal at 27 where you get ten years or something and still have a life? I HOPE they won't do that with you but that's the sh*t that is going on.

@Mel70
 

Painful timeline of Everett boy’s killing outlined in state report​

Five days before the body of her 4-year-old grandson was found by a Pierce County highway, Maria Garcia called the state Department of Children, Youth, and Families to report that her daughter, the boy’s mother, was a danger.

Janet Garcia was using drugs and “acting crazy,” her mother told the department in March. She had been hitting Ariel Garcia and she had pulled his 7-year-old brother out of bed before taking him to a bar without his shoes on.

Maria Garcia’s efforts to save her grandson — whose mother stands charged with stabbing him 16 times — are detailed in a new review of how the Washington agency tasked with protecting children responded to her pleas for help.

The report lays out a painful timeline of events preceding Ariel Garcia’s killing, and adds insight into the grandmother’s desperate determination and how DCYF responds to a cry for help.

The report determined that given the information known at the time, the responding Child Protective Services caseworker responded appropriately. The review did not clearly identify any DCYF practices that may be amended due to the response.


Janet Garcia was charged with first-degree murder in April after a 24-hour manhunt ended when Ariel’s body was found on the side of the road. The day before Ariel was reported missing, his maternal grandmother, Maria Garcia, won emergency guardianship of him and his 7-year-old brother.

Janet Garcia pleaded not guilty and the Snohomish County Superior Court is awaiting results of a competency evaluation to determine whether she is fit to stand trial.


A fatality review is required in child welfare cases when the death is suspected to be caused by abuse or neglect of a child who had recently received services from the department.

According to the report, Maria Garcia called DCYF on March 23 to report that Janet was “acting crazy” and using illegal drugs. She said Janet had been hitting Ariel, and said she had court paperwork to obtain custody of the boys. DCYF determined her concerns did not meet the criteria to open a case, as no allegation of child abuse or neglect was reported, according to the review.

Maria Garcia’s primary language is Spanish, so the intake worker got assistance from an interpreter. The fatality review committee was “concerned” there may have been a language barrier in the way of getting enough detail. Intake report screening experts told the committee there is no way to ensure calls from non-English speakers can be routed to workers who speak their language, according to the review.

The day after Maria Garcia called, DCYF received a call from a law enforcement officer and a health care nurse after Janet took the children to the hospital. The nature of the children’s medical issue was redacted by DCYF, but the 7-year-old boy told the law enforcement officer his mother had dragged him by the neck down the stairs, according to the report. That report met DCYF’s criteria for a “family assessment response,” which is an alternative to a traditional case for “lower risk allegations of maltreatment,” according to DCYF policy.

That alternative response, which first rolled out in 2014, does not open an abuse investigation but offers resources to the family and identifies the family’s needs. The department must respond within 72 hours in one of those cases.

The state has sought to keep families together by prioritizing providing services over removing children. The shift in approach has resulted in the number of children in Washington’s foster care system dropping by half in the past six years.


Two days after the family assessment response was opened for the Garcias, DCYF received a written law enforcement report stating that the fire department came to the home when Janet reportedly pulled her 7-year-old out of bed aggressively. It also said that law enforcement had responded to the bar to which Janet had reportedly made her 7-year-old walk without shoes on, hurting his feet. That report “met screening criteria for another” family assessment response, the review stated.

The next day, March 27, a DCYF caseworker met Ariel’s older brother at his school. The boy said he felt safe at school and at home, and his school counselor said they did not have concerns about the family.

That same day, Janet’s ex-boyfriend’s mother reported Ariel and his mother were missing from the Everett apartment where she had been letting them stay, according to probable cause documents filed in Snohomish County Superior Court. A prosecutor wrote there was a large bloodstain and a child-sized bloody handprint in the living room, according to court documents.

That night, the caseworker learned from a law enforcement officer that Ariel was missing and that Ariel’s brother was with his grandparents. The caseworker spent the next day attempting to find Ariel’s father and speak with his maternal grandparents.

A 24-hour manhunt ensued. An Everett police officer spoke with Janet Garcia over the phone, and she said Ariel got injured after he fell out of bed, according to court documents. She told the officer she had dropped Ariel off in Portland, then said it was Seattle, before hanging up, prosecutors allege.

Clark County Sheriff’s Office deputies located Janet Garcia in a mental health hospital, where she had blood on her shoes and shirt. A law enforcement officer called DCYF, which opened a “risk only” CPS investigation, which finds a child is at “imminent risk of serious harm.”

Cellphone data showed her phone near Joint Base Lewis-McChord, where video footage recorded her in a gray hoodie retrieving an object wrapped in white from her trunk, according to the documents. Law enforcement found Ariel on March 28, dumped over a fence line at JBLM with stab wounds in his chest, abdomen and back. A law enforcement officer called the caseworker again to inform them Ariel had been found.

According to the fatality review committee report, the family assessment response unit followed the right steps, but it did note one persistent issue: The unit had a high-volume workload when the Garcia case came in.

The average goal for caseworkers is to have eight to 10 new cases per month, but the caseworker on Ariel’s case had been assigned 15 cases in the month prior and 12 new cases that month. DCYF’s current recommendation is five, not more than eight new cases per month, with a maximum of 12 open cases at any one time.

The Washington Federation of State Employees, the union representing CPS workers, has said for years that caseworkers are stretched thin.
 
SMFH if everything was done right and this is their criteria and response, then their DCYF should just be abolished. What a lload of b.s. All the times, those kids could have had help and have been removed.
 

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