Indications are it may be a homicide.
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ANNA KEPNER: Teen found dead on Carnival cruise ship *ARREST!* (15 Viewers)
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GrandmaBear
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I just finished reading several things. Anna had two full siblings a brother 14 and a sister 9. Shauntel the stepmom came with two kids, one 16 and one 9.
Pretty sure it was the 14 year old full brother of Anna who left the room and took pictures. Either the two youngest siblings were not on the cruise or shared a room with the folks which I doubt.
Maybe they felt younger ones would have to be supervised and left them home with someone.
TEENS need supervision too of which there seems to have been NONE.
Pretty sure it was the 14 year old full brother of Anna who left the room and took pictures. Either the two youngest siblings were not on the cruise or shared a room with the folks which I doubt.
Maybe they felt younger ones would have to be supervised and left them home with someone.
TEENS need supervision too of which there seems to have been NONE.
Guess Who
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In my experience with nearly any teen I've known, I've come to the conclusion that most teens need MORE actual supervision than most 9 year olds! I wish I was kidding.
GrandmaBear
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I know and agree. Before I had teens I recall thinking those years would be easier than the younger years. Ha ha. Wrong I was.
GrandmaBear
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I'd add though I always knew better than to ever create a situation as they did here housing them in the same room and ignoring the behavior of her stepbrother.
Not taking the stepbrother's behavior seriously appears to be the main problem. Families have issues. Parents make errors. But, if Anna really did tell any of her parents that her stepbrother made her uncomfortable and they still had them share a room on the ship, that was beyond the pale.
Guess Who
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In my book the parents that went on this trip with the kids with these accommodations, basically set it up to happen. Yes, the kid is responsible for his actions, but the parents made it possible. Get another room so the girls can have their space and the boys can have theirs or don't go.
Agreed. And this is a perfect example of why this is imperative in mixed families.
GrandmaBear
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She may not have with trying to keep the peace or not wanting to upset the stepmother, hard to say, BUT the ex bf supposedly did tell them.
I see people out there who think they should be charged and I'm not sure I disagree... Don't agree but not sure yet...
GrandmaBear
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Oh yeah, he is responsible for all he did but separately the parents absolutely did wrong.
As much as I judge these parents though, I don't agree with the stepson's bio dad saying the mother jeopardized his future. She definitely did not exercise good decision making in putting them in a room together but he still made the choice he did. Other kids could have been put in a room together and have behaved and never made this choice.
The future that was ended and jeopardized was Anna's being put in a room with what I am so far thinking of as a teenaged monster.
Reports stated they were already having a bitter divorce, so I'm sure NOTHING will make bio dad believe his ex has been making any good decisions, at this point.
Guess Who
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They kinda did though. They are 100% responsible for making the arrangements that allowed this to happen the way it did.
Guess Who
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And they handed him more ammo, served on a silver platter. One would think parents involved in a bitter custody battle would be on their best behavior as to not give the other party more to have for their advantage.
GrandmaBear
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Yeah. He calls her husband (Anna's dad) her "paramour" in the filings too. Kind of makes it sound like she took the kids on a cruise with her lover.
Clearly a very acrimonious divorce, now custody fight.
GrandmaBear
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Yes but he still did it. I suspect he would have done so at some point, if not on the ship, then at home, etc.
And I do blame them for their decision, believe me, I think it was a very BAD STUPID decision.
GrandmaBear
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I missed a kid earlier. It was the fault of the news though because they said she had two kids. She has one of age too because he chose to go live with his father. So she has a 9, 16 and 18 I think the other one is.
GrandmaBear
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In my opinion Anna if anyone should have been allowed her own room at 18. The two boys were minors and should have been with their parents in the same room or one that adjoined like a suite where they could supervise them.
I don't think minors should ever been in a separate stateroom with a different key. NEVER.
I don't think minors should ever been in a separate stateroom with a different key. NEVER.
That's probably what their reasoning is going to be. However, if the stepbrother is only 2 years younger than she is, that's not a good reason.
The medical examiner has released their report:
Anna Kepner, a teenager who was found dead on a Carnival Horizon cruise ship this month, died by asphyxiation resulting from a bar hold -- an arm across the neck -- a source briefed on the investigation told ABC News on Friday.
Investigators also found two bruises on the side of her neck, the source said.
abcnews.go.com
ETA: According to the source, the preliminary information indicates there were no signs of sexual assault and there did not appear to be drugs or alcohol in Kepner's system. Autopsy and toxicology reports that could confirm those details have not been completed.
Anna Kepner, a teenager who was found dead on a Carnival Horizon cruise ship this month, died by asphyxiation resulting from a bar hold -- an arm across the neck -- a source briefed on the investigation told ABC News on Friday.
Investigators also found two bruises on the side of her neck, the source said.
Teen found dead on Carnival cruise died by asphyxiation, possibly resulting from a bar hold: Source
The 18-year-old cheerleader from Titusville, Florida, was reported dead while aboard the Carnival Horizon cruise ship on Nov. 8.
abcnews.go.com
ETA: According to the source, the preliminary information indicates there were no signs of sexual assault and there did not appear to be drugs or alcohol in Kepner's system. Autopsy and toxicology reports that could confirm those details have not been completed.