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KIMBERLY HYDE: Utah woman murdered in October 2024 - Man charged claims setup

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This is fairly long, about an hour. I saw it come up yesterday but wasn't compelled to watch it. Now today, it started for me somehow by me not starting it. So I stopped it but was on the page and started to skim the chat, just to see if worth a watch, etc. The chat is FULL of people saying police have the wrong guy and that her husband framed this guy. That the police department is corrupt and inept, etc. TONS of people saying such. Well, now I have to watch it to see what I think of him. This guy fled the country but saw an interview with Nate by two people who knew Kimberly, I think relatives, and wanted to give his side to Nate...

Not sure what I think yet, I haven't watched it, just starting to. Seems to be another LDS case... I do think I watched the family members on with Nate but it was a time ago. @Kimster Have you watched this? I know you watch most of Nate's too so just asking...?

 
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The Police Chief has responded to these claims made by Henry. It is short, around 4 minutes. Naturally he says they can't share evidence but did state that Henry made some claims that are directly contradicted as evidence. They stand by he did this and is the only suspect at this time and stands by the charges.

I can believe this because he seemed to me to be fitting his story to what he "knows" of the evidence imo and he doesn't know it all most likely. He therefore can't explain those things OR claimed something clearly not true.

He also said the husband took a polygraph and passed. However, this was from a third party polygrapher and I have to say I don't like that rather than LE giving him one...

I don't know about the hub but I think most know I wasn't sold by Henry. I thought the garage blood story a bit of a far stretch for one.

There are things that don't thrill me about the hub but he very well could just be a not great husband and one who did remarry in a year or some such and unfortunately his neighbor did this and so some are going to think he did.

He also may very well get unknown calls a lot and most cell phones show a number, there aren't any payphones hardly at all any longer and that evidence just doesn't convince me at all. I don't think we even know the exact timeline do we? I think the short gym visit odd and probably done to "try" to create an alibi.

The thing is he would have had to have got her into her own car right? The husband must not have been at home of course...

I think it is possible his son could have helped put the body into the car but not necessarily.

Kimberly's extended family members or in laws said that the husband told them he was going to have Henry start the car like weekly or something and that he'd given him the code. They did think it odd they not just have them do it but I don't find that entirely odd and it would explain also that Henry already had the code, had the car keys or knew where they were and so on.

I can't totally rule out the hub but LE says there is no reason to suspect him. Not at this time. I of course am paraphrasing in here.

I learned not too far in following crime years ago that usually when the perp has to explain way too many things or evidence away, they are usually guilty. There just are not that many coincidental things and so many have to be explained in ONE event/case. Too many here. It would also mean Henry is beyond gullible to be framed and that the hub is extremely smart and planned this all perfectly. Seems unlikely to me.

In on it together or Henry did it himself imo. IF in on it together though Henry just basically flipped on the hub in his interview claiming he framed him... No interest or reason to arrest the hub though it would seem per the Chief.

 
What are you going by? Not doubting you, just not sure where you got that? I watched everything but a lot to take in and memory these days isn't that great in some cases anyhow.

If you get the chance, give his video a watch. He's hard to understand at times but for the most part one can understand him most of the time, and Nate shoots a few questions at him afterwards... Henry's I mean. I think Nate linked the transcript of the narrative too BUT I think watching hearing and seeing a person gives more of an opportunity to try to determine truthfulness...

He sounds earnest and believable and I think the accent and fact English is not his first language plays in though and I had to caution myself not to necessarily believe him just for those reasons... One "wants" to believe him imo...

Nate asked him about blood in I think his garage and driveway... He put the blood in the garage down to groceries... He had no answer for the blood in the driveway...

I am really not sure what to think.

Back to what you first said, I wasn't even sure Henry's wife and the victim were even together that day and it wasn't a story the husband told. Unless I missed something there too... I did watch the videos backwards, his, then her family's so that made it maybe a bit more confusing.
I'm going by the timeline from the arrest warrant reported in a local news broadcast.
I've watched the first portion of the Nate video and so I know he said he was asked to use Kim's car and so I'd like to know whose car he thought Kim was using.
I think there's other evidence that shows that Kim was with Henery's wife as they ran errands until 2:30pm (when it's shown they arrived back).
 
The Police Chief has responded to these claims made by Henry. It is short, around 4 minutes. Naturally he says they can't share evidence but did state that Henry made some claims that are directly contradicted as evidence. They stand by he did this and is the only suspect at this time and stands by the charges.

I can believe this because he seemed to me to be fitting his story to what he "knows" of the evidence imo and he doesn't know it all most likely. He therefore can't explain those things OR claimed something clearly not true.

He also said the husband took a polygraph and passed. However, this was from a third party polygrapher and I have to say I don't like that rather than LE giving him one...

I don't know about the hub but I think most know I wasn't sold by Henry. I thought the garage blood story a bit of a far stretch for one.

There are things that don't thrill me about the hub but he very well could just be a not great husband and one who did remarry in a year or some such and unfortunately his neighbor did this and so some are going to think he did.

He also may very well get unknown calls a lot and most cell phones show a number, there aren't any payphones hardly at all any longer and that evidence just doesn't convince me at all. I don't think we even know the exact timeline do we? I think the short gym visit odd and probably done to "try" to create an alibi.

The thing is he would have had to have got her into her own car right? The husband must not have been at home of course...

I think it is possible his son could have helped put the body into the car but not necessarily.

Kimberly's extended family members or in laws said that the husband told them he was going to have Henry start the car like weekly or something and that he'd given him the code. They did think it odd they not just have them do it but I don't find that entirely odd and it would explain also that Henry already had the code, had the car keys or knew where they were and so on.

I can't totally rule out the hub but LE says there is no reason to suspect him. Not at this time. I of course am paraphrasing in here.

I learned not too far in following crime years ago that usually when the perp has to explain way too many things or evidence away, they are usually guilty. There just are not that many coincidental things and so many have to be explained in ONE event/case. Too many here. It would also mean Henry is beyond gullible to be framed and that the hub is extremely smart and planned this all perfectly. Seems unlikely to me.

In on it together or Henry did it himself imo. IF in on it together though Henry just basically flipped on the hub in his interview claiming he framed him... No interest or reason to arrest the hub though it would seem per the Chief.


Re the husband, (among a lot of other things re behavior) I find it odd that he'd have the neighbor come by and start the car. You know, the daughter-in-law said they'd found that odd at the time, you know, that it was unnecessary to have the neighbor come and do that, and in retrospect, it comes across as a lame excuse as to why he gave the neighbor the garage code.
 
I'm going by the timeline from the arrest warrant reported in a local news broadcast.
I've watched the first portion of the Nate video and so I know he said he was asked to use Kim's car and so I'd like to know whose car he thought Kim was using.
I think there's other evidence that shows that Kim was with Henery's wife as they ran errands until 2:30pm (when it's shown they arrived back).
Yeah I thought the fact the women were together at some point was known but I couldn't recall it 100 percent.

I don't know that I've seen the arrest warrant? Most of what I've went by is the videos and of course a post or two with articles.

I wonder about the car too and why he questioned NOTHING basically. Did the women go out in Henry's wife's car (maybe their family only had one vehicle?) and so Kim's hub said take Kim's car to go pick them up? Why, did the other one break down? Or were the women dropped off somewhere, no car, and needed to be picked up? The whole car thing is confusing imo.
 
Re the husband, (among a lot of other things re behavior) I find it odd that he'd have the neighbor come by and start the car. You know, the daughter-in-law said they'd found that odd at the time, you know, that it was unnecessary to have the neighbor come and do that, and in retrospect, it comes across as a lame excuse as to why he gave the neighbor the garage code.
Yes, there are a couple of odd things with Kim's husband too, that's what makes it hard... I don't tend to believe Henry but it would work better were they both in on it... LE doesn't seem to think so though, at least not at this point...

I mean the neighbors could have been somewhat close. Henry refer to Kim like a grandma to his kids or some such, etc. I know the one family member lives near and thought they'd be taking care of things but Henry I think is right next door isn't he? That family member also talked like she didn't see Kim and hub very recently or all that often so maybe they weren't all that close in day to day or helping out, etc...?

Maybe he was just going to trust the one with mail, the house, etc. and Henry with the car, and/or thought it might not put too much on either party in helping them out... This was October and so it would get colder in the winter and I know from experience not starting a car for months can cause some real headaches.

Of course all we can do is speculate on a lot of this stuff and wonder the reasoning...

You know a lot of people in the chat re Henry's video were calling the police there corrupt, I think I saw inept, etc. Believing Henry. Almost too many, struck me odd but then Nate probably does have a lot of UT, ID viewers just thanks to Daybell and he's in East Idaho. To believe him though AND think police are corrupt...

I've seen in how many cases where locals say that about police, I get to that point at times too wondering when they will solve something, charge, etc. but more times than not it turns out they've assembled a pretty rock solid case and then all change their tune...

It's too bad the Chief couldn't have said more because I'd like to know of evidence Henry doesn't know about or did not think of covering and that we don't know. Of course they can't do that though. The fact he said anything is interesting... I wouldn't have been surprised had they not said a word about a video Henry did from another country.

Why is it Henry said he will talk to the FBI but not local police...? Has he had issues before? Have then given him issues? Maybe just did not believe his stories and charged son and Henry is his reason...
 
I haven't read the thread thoroughly, just skimmed through, and I haven't heard or read Henry's entire side of it but it's my understanding that the wife was alive up until Henry's wife went back home (2:47pm) so it couldn't have been the husband who killed her.
How do you work that out? Do you know where the husband was at that time?
 
I don't go to the gym lol. Maybe one day... Not really in the shape to do so right now...

I mean I guess it's possible but it seems very short to me and if a fair drive, then why so short and it's so convenient that just for a 20 minute window that supposedly creates an alibi he was gone...

I'm not enough of a gym type to know though...

I guess I always though most go for maybe 1/2 hour or an hour even maybe more likely...
I was kidding. I don't use a gym either.

It's walking distance because he said he walked back.
 
Yeah I thought the fact the women were together at some point was known but I couldn't recall it 100 percent.

I don't know that I've seen the arrest warrant? Most of what I've went by is the videos and of course a post or two with articles.

I wonder about the car too and why he questioned NOTHING basically. Did the women go out in Henry's wife's car (maybe their family only had one vehicle?) and so Kim's hub said take Kim's car to go pick them up? Why, did the other one break down? Or were the women dropped off somewhere, no car, and needed to be picked up? The whole car thing is confusing imo.
Well, Henry admits that Kim and his wife were out together; he said "(he) knew Kim and his wife were together".
And btw, there're two discrepancies re the code to the garage. What I mean is, he said he asked Mike how he would get in without a key and that that's when Mike gave him the code, when according to the daughter-in-law, Mike had already given him code and that it was for a different reason.
 
How do you work that out? Do you know where the husband was at that time?
I can't recall it being said in either video where he was and if it can be proven where he was... Apparently not at home if Henry claims he was calling him from that Utah's number or whatever, the unknown calls... And asking him to go to his house, unlock the gate, get the car and so forth.

I'd like to see the charging papers. And should read Henry's written narrative, I never did look for it after he was done with Nate.
 
Well, Henry admits that Kim and his wife were out together; he said "(he) knew Kim and his wife were together".
And btw, there're two discrepancies re the code to the garage. What I mean is, he said he asked Mike how he would get in without a key and that that's when Mike gave him the code, when according to the daughter-in-law, Mike had already given him code and that it was for a different reason.
People change codes though so maybe Henry didn't have an up to date code and/or hub wanted to frame him which is why he got him to do the jobs. I wonder who took them shopping or whether Kim or the neighbour drove?
 
Well, Henry admits that Kim and his wife were out together; he said "(he) knew Kim and his wife were together".
And btw, there're two discrepancies re the code to the garage. What I mean is, he said he asked Mike how he would get in without a key and that that's when Mike gave him the code, when according to the daughter-in-law, Mike had already given him code and that it was for a different reason.
Which to me makes it more likely Henry is lying. The family video was like three months ago. Henry's was just recent trying to fit his story to what he knew they or others knew imo.
 
People change codes though so maybe Henry didn't have an up to date code and/or hub wanted to frame him which is why he got him to do the jobs. I wonder who took them shopping or whether Kim or the neighbour drove?
According to the daughter-in-law (this is from a video with Nate months prior to Henry's video with Nate) it was the night before the murder that Mike informed that he'd given the code to the neighbor.
 
Yeah and if he knew he hadn't done it he would immediately know it was the husband and this was a set up. So he scarpered.
Anyone know what kind of vehicle Kim had that Henry was driving? Because it still seems to me if the back seat was full of boxes and things that picking up two women to right in the front seat with him, he didn't think to shove some boxes over or take some out instead of a squeeze in the front that might not even work (like if it had bucket seats or a console in the middle).

Did he ever call the neighbor and say WHAT did you do, Kim's injured in the back seat? Even after? Or after he fled? Accuse him of framing him? Try to record him so he could prove to the cops? Doesn't seem so...
 

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