I’m watching a live report that Rob Reiner and his wife were stabbed to death in Brentwood and it might’ve been by Rob‘s son. Still waiting for verification.
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The Murder of Rob and Michele Reiner in Brentwood, California (2 Viewers)
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I’m watching a live report that Rob Reiner and his wife were stabbed to death in Brentwood and it might’ve been by Rob‘s son. Still waiting for verification.
"Words cannot even begin to describe the unimaginable pain we are experiencing every moment of the day," Jake and Romy Reiner said in a statement released by a family spokesperson on Wednesday. "The horrific and devastating loss of our parents, Rob and Michele Reiner, is something that no one should ever experience. They weren't just our parents; they were our best friends."
"We are grateful for the outpouring of condolences, kindness, and support we have received not only from family and friends but people from all walks of life," Jake and Romy Reiner said. "We now ask for respect and privacy, for speculation to be tempered with compassion and humanity, and for our parents to be remembered for the incredible lives they lived and the love they gave."
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"We are grateful for the outpouring of condolences, kindness, and support we have received not only from family and friends but people from all walks of life," Jake and Romy Reiner said. "We now ask for respect and privacy, for speculation to be tempered with compassion and humanity, and for our parents to be remembered for the incredible lives they lived and the love they gave."
Rob Reiner's children speak out after Nick Reiner's arrest on murder charges
Jake and Romy Reiner, the children of renowned director Rob Reiner and wife Michele Singer Reiner, are speaking out for the first time.
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His attorney is VERY good at what he does. It should prove interesting.
And I wouldn't be surprised if the attorney is being paid from the estate. If Nick hasn't been convicted, I don't think he can be prevented from his share of the estate.
There's video of Nick nonchalantly walking along streets both before and after the murders. He appears to be in complete control of his faculties. That will be a hard sell for a jury.
I would be very surprised if that were the case. I don't think the estate would even be released for such or even so soon.
There may only be the property and it would also depend on any will. Have never heard before where the victim has funded the defence of the murderer.
Maybe you know of a similar situation when this has happened before. Generally a murderer cannot profit from his crime though, can he?
Mel70
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Nick Reiner charged with murder in death of parents
Rob Reiner and Michele Singer Reiner were found dead Sunday with stab wounds, source close to the family told NBC News.
www.nbcnews.com
Nick Reiner checked into a hotel after the murders and blood was found in the room and on the mattress. So he didn't stay in the guest house.
www.foxla.com
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LOS ANGELES - Prosecutors on Tuesday charged 32-year-old Nick Reiner with two counts of first-degree murder in the stabbing deaths of his parents, Rob and Michele Reiner, inside their Brentwood home.
Los Angeles County District Attorney Nathan Hochman announced the charges at a news conference, calling the case one of the most serious his office can bring. "We will commit ourselves to bringing their murder to justice," Hochman said.
Investigators allege Nick Reiner stabbed his parents to death, though authorities have not disclosed a motive or the exact time of the killings.
According to witnesses, Nick Reiner and his parents attended a holiday party at Conan O’Brien’s home the night before the bodies were discovered. Witnesses say a loud, heated argument broke out during the gathering. One witness told FOX 11 Nick had been acting oddly that night.
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TMZ reports that Reiner checked into a Santa Monica hotel around 4 a.m. Sunday with his own credit card and that hotel staff later found blood in his shower and on his mattress. Police have not publicly confirmed those details.
Sunday afternoon, the Reiners’ daughter, Romy Reiner, discovered her parents dead inside the home and called 911. About six hours later, Los Angeles police took Nick Reiner into custody near the University of Southern California campus without incident. He is being held without bail.
Nick Reiner has previously spoken publicly about struggles with substance abuse and mental health. His 2015 film "Being Charlie," directed by his father, was loosely based on his experiences with addiction and recovery.
Outside the family’s home Tuesday, defense attorney Alan Jackson declined to answer questions about his client’s mental state.
If convicted, Reiner faces a maximum sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole or the death penalty, Hochman said.
Authorities said it remains unclear when the alleged killings occurred or how Reiner traveled from Brentwood to Santa Monica.
The Source: This report is based on formal statements and charging documents released during a news conference by the Los Angeles County District Attorney and the LAPD. Our reporting also incorporates firsthand witness accounts of the family's final public appearance, investigative details obtained by FOX 11 and TMZ, and prior public statements made by the Reiner family regarding their history and personal struggles
Nick Reiner's Santa Monica hotel room 'full of blood' amid Rob Reiner, Michele Reiner's deaths: TMZ
Prosecutors charged Nick Reiner with first-degree murder in the stabbing deaths of his parents at their Brentwood home.
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The Brief
- Prosecutors charged Nick Reiner with first-degree murder in the stabbing deaths of his parents at their Brentwood home.
- Witness accounts and hotel evidence place Reiner acting erratically before the killings, though authorities have not confirmed a motive or timeline.
- Reiner was arrested hours after his sister discovered the bodies, and he now faces a potential life sentence or the death penalty if convicted.
The Brief
- Nick Reiner, 32, has been charged with two counts of first-degree murder in the stabbing deaths of his parents, director Rob Reiner and Michele Singer Reiner.
- The couple was discovered Sunday in their Brentwood home; Nick Reiner was arrested hours later near USC and is currently being held for a Wednesday court appearance.
- While prosecutors have added special circumstances that could increase the sentence, they have not yet decided whether to seek the death penalty.
LOS ANGELES - Prosecutors on Tuesday charged 32-year-old Nick Reiner with two counts of first-degree murder in the stabbing deaths of his parents, Rob and Michele Reiner, inside their Brentwood home.
Los Angeles County District Attorney Nathan Hochman announced the charges at a news conference, calling the case one of the most serious his office can bring. "We will commit ourselves to bringing their murder to justice," Hochman said.
Investigators allege Nick Reiner stabbed his parents to death, though authorities have not disclosed a motive or the exact time of the killings.
According to witnesses, Nick Reiner and his parents attended a holiday party at Conan O’Brien’s home the night before the bodies were discovered. Witnesses say a loud, heated argument broke out during the gathering. One witness told FOX 11 Nick had been acting oddly that night.
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- Rob, Nick Reiner had argument at Conan O’Brien party before parents' death: Report
- Nick Reiner arrested on suspicion of murder
- Moms speak on mental illness amid Nick Reiner's arrest
TMZ reports that Reiner checked into a Santa Monica hotel around 4 a.m. Sunday with his own credit card and that hotel staff later found blood in his shower and on his mattress. Police have not publicly confirmed those details.
Sunday afternoon, the Reiners’ daughter, Romy Reiner, discovered her parents dead inside the home and called 911. About six hours later, Los Angeles police took Nick Reiner into custody near the University of Southern California campus without incident. He is being held without bail.
Nick Reiner has previously spoken publicly about struggles with substance abuse and mental health. His 2015 film "Being Charlie," directed by his father, was loosely based on his experiences with addiction and recovery.
Outside the family’s home Tuesday, defense attorney Alan Jackson declined to answer questions about his client’s mental state.
If convicted, Reiner faces a maximum sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole or the death penalty, Hochman said.
Authorities said it remains unclear when the alleged killings occurred or how Reiner traveled from Brentwood to Santa Monica.
The Source: This report is based on formal statements and charging documents released during a news conference by the Los Angeles County District Attorney and the LAPD. Our reporting also incorporates firsthand witness accounts of the family's final public appearance, investigative details obtained by FOX 11 and TMZ, and prior public statements made by the Reiner family regarding their history and personal struggles
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Mel70
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To me that shows he was coherent. Removing himself from the crime scene.Nick Reiner checked into a hotel after the murders and blood was found in the room and on the mattress. So he didn't stay in the guest house.
Nick Reiner's Santa Monica hotel room 'full of blood' amid Rob Reiner, Michele Reiner's deaths: TMZ
Prosecutors charged Nick Reiner with first-degree murder in the stabbing deaths of his parents at their Brentwood home.
I looked up the Slayer Statute in California and it does keep them from their inheritance IF they are convicted. I didn't find much more, but I'll guess that it holds up the division of his portion until the end of the trial.
So my question is, who is paying for the attorney??????? He's not cheap!
Same here. Also, I'm seeing where people think the blood at the motel room was solely due to him cleaning up. It could also mean he wounded himself, too. I remember from the Idaho college murders it being said that multiple murders using a knife often means that the killer injures themself in the process.
Yes he has lost the speedy arraignment right. He will now be arraigned In January.
I hope LE had access to the uncleaned room. If the victims' blood is in that room, he's done for.
Mel70
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Yes. Happens with stabbing when their hand slips down to the blade. That's what you're saying I'm sure.
He's local though right? Maybe he is on a list of public defenders. He certainly showed up quickly.
Mel70
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I'm sure it is. At least traces.
Mel70
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No. He's a big time attorney. I doubt it. He defended Karen Reid.
This article discusses what we have been talking about.
www.sheknows.com
From the article -
As the details about the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife, Michele Singer, unfold, there are many questions surrounding the finances and inheritance of the alleged suspect, Nick Reiner.
The couple left behind an estate estimated to be worth around $200 million, per Celebrity Net Worth. With Nick now charged in the death of his parents, People is now revealing that he will likely find himself ineligible to inherit any money if he’s convicted, per California state law.
“California has what’s called a slayer statute, which says if you kill someone that you’re going to inherit from, you lose your inheritance and any right to serve as a fiduciary of their estate. So assuming he’s convicted of this murder, he’s out as beneficiary, along with any fiduciary appointments he may have,” Sean Weissbart, an estate and trusts attorney not associated with the case, told the media outlet.
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Rob Reiner, Nick Reiner.Rommel Demano/Getty Images
Nick will likely be “disqualified” from the estate if he’s found guilty, and the rest of the shares will be split between his siblings, Jake, 34, and Romy, 28, as well as his oldest sister, Tracy, 61, from Rob’s first marriage to the late Penny Marshall.
Still, there are questions as to how Nick is paying for his lawyer, Alan Jackson, in the case. The criminal defense attorney is known for taking on challenging legal cases, including Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, and the recently acquitted Karen Read.
A Reiner family insider told Rob Shuter’s Substack that they believe it is Nick’s late parents who are “paying for his defense.” They alleged, “Nick has never earned a living in his life. He’s always lived off his parents. And now, even in death, it looks like he’s still relying on their money.”
It’s a case that is not only heartbreaking, but it is also life-changing for the three adult children Rob and Michele leave behind. There are a lot of complicated emotions for Reiner’s entertainment industry friends who were in attendance at Conan O’Brien’s Christmas party the night before their deaths on December 14.
“It’s a lot for Hollywood to digest,” the source concluded. “He’s never been independent, and now even his legal fight is bankrolled by the people he allegedly killed. It’s shocking, morbid, and tragic all at once.”
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Nick Reiner Might Be Cut off From His Family Inheritance — But There's Still a Legal Catch
The Reiner family finances are complicated right now.
www.sheknows.com
From the article -
As the details about the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife, Michele Singer, unfold, there are many questions surrounding the finances and inheritance of the alleged suspect, Nick Reiner.
The couple left behind an estate estimated to be worth around $200 million, per Celebrity Net Worth. With Nick now charged in the death of his parents, People is now revealing that he will likely find himself ineligible to inherit any money if he’s convicted, per California state law.
“California has what’s called a slayer statute, which says if you kill someone that you’re going to inherit from, you lose your inheritance and any right to serve as a fiduciary of their estate. So assuming he’s convicted of this murder, he’s out as beneficiary, along with any fiduciary appointments he may have,” Sean Weissbart, an estate and trusts attorney not associated with the case, told the media outlet.
Related storySarah Ferguson Allegedly Took Millions in 'Loans' She Never Repaid, Royal Insider Reveals
Rob Reiner, Nick Reiner.Rommel Demano/Getty Images
Nick will likely be “disqualified” from the estate if he’s found guilty, and the rest of the shares will be split between his siblings, Jake, 34, and Romy, 28, as well as his oldest sister, Tracy, 61, from Rob’s first marriage to the late Penny Marshall.
Still, there are questions as to how Nick is paying for his lawyer, Alan Jackson, in the case. The criminal defense attorney is known for taking on challenging legal cases, including Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, and the recently acquitted Karen Read.
A Reiner family insider told Rob Shuter’s Substack that they believe it is Nick’s late parents who are “paying for his defense.” They alleged, “Nick has never earned a living in his life. He’s always lived off his parents. And now, even in death, it looks like he’s still relying on their money.”
It’s a case that is not only heartbreaking, but it is also life-changing for the three adult children Rob and Michele leave behind. There are a lot of complicated emotions for Reiner’s entertainment industry friends who were in attendance at Conan O’Brien’s Christmas party the night before their deaths on December 14.
“It’s a lot for Hollywood to digest,” the source concluded. “He’s never been independent, and now even his legal fight is bankrolled by the people he allegedly killed. It’s shocking, morbid, and tragic all at once.”
More on Rob Reiner & Michele Singer:
GrandmaBear
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Yes he's local and in some states some or all have to do some public defender or pro bono work. It's being debated but by attys that actually KNOW him and know the local area and even these high high class areas, they figure he was the family lawyer, had gotten Nick out of trouble before OR the one I truly believe is the one who has been a DA there, or prosecuting attorney in CA, worked under Alan Jackson, etc. back when AND knows many attorneys there and several well known attorneys were called on Nick's behalf, friends of his (the attorney's) so they were calling around and Jackson is who they ended up going with.
Courtroom Confidential, can't think of his name. It's a very, very good show and not all b.s. and he is the real deal.
So some part of the family or one, who knows who called around as his friends got calls.
GrandmaBear
Former Member
Yeah there is a slayer's law in CA, I heard this yesterday and if he is convicted he can't profit. It was also said MAYBE a judge would hold it or cut it before that but no law requires that... So as of NOW he very likely may get or have assets from the very people he likely killed to fund a lawyer to get off on killing them. This is a problem in every state, every case imo. Even with this slayer law, by the time he is convicted, those assets if he receives them can be exhausted, hidden, transferred, etc.
It was said in the Walshe case at sentencing. He has profited from his wife's death AND he killed her.
Barry Morphew spent and blew all of Suzanne's money and not convicted yet but he's her killer.
There NEED to be laws in place for this in every state or maybe a federal one mandating it. I think at minimum 1/2 of all should be just HELD STILL, like if a spouse is suspected of killing the other spouse or even if there are very questionable circumstances. Or in this state the parents' money and assets all held from Nick. He wouldn't even own 1/2, he's not a spouse. It's just SO wrong. You should NEVER benefit from the very estate of the person you murdered. EVER. Especially if there's a good likelihood you were the perp and as in THIS case, he was almost immediately arrested with I would assume well more than enough evidence. Who knows, maybe he even confessed.
Alan Jackson yes knows his stuff and also knows how to create a sh*t show. He is hemmed in in this one pretty good though for reasons I did not have time to go into today. I guess we (or at I least) will find out if he is a really serious attorney and does a case like this differently than the last one he was known for). And does it without the sh*t show. They are EXTREMELY different cases.
I did think the idea he may have represented the family or Nick before may have been a possibility too. Well if he was like the "family" attorney, his other clients were murdered weren't they... The ones paying the bill... Most likely.
GrandmaBear
Former Member
I'd also just say that 100 and more different well respected attorneys said Ann Taylor was quite the attorney when she got appointed to Kohberger too. And she is death qualified. Yet I never saw one impressive thing from her. Oh she tried some things, the same kinds of things any defense atty. would try. She had a defendant that had sewn himself in and beyond. In the end she got him off the DP and that's all.
Jackson is a celebrity attorney, not even sure he is death qualified. I kind of doubt it but who knows. I could be wrong. Many think the P won't go for the death penalty as no point in CA plus Rob himself wasn't for it but it's all speculation too and that's only if the P goes by what the family might want if they feel that way. It was also said and I agree that the P can't and won't come off of double life without parole at minimum. This crime was heinous, double, brutal, his parents, etc. And soooo there's no deal. Very likely. And only IF you go for the DP then it can be pled to life without parole, otherwise there is NO negotiating room basically. So that's a pretty good I think sum up of that part of things that I agree with. IF the DA came off from two LWOP sentences, then someone is paying someone corrupt imo. It just is WRONG or would be to do so in this case. And this isn't the OJ trial. The internet had no part in that, things are a lot different in that so many more eyes are on them, even though many were on that one too as it was all over TV but it's different. You couldn't comment, do your own show, etc. To not sidetrack further, a prosecutor that would come off of at minimum LWOP would have to be corrupt imo. It won't happen.
So then there's the case with even the little we know so far. Nick has sewn himself in every which way but loose and he shall never be loose.
AND it will go all the way to trial since there will be no deals based on the above is thought by some great minds that I agree with.
All he has is to try to play some kind o f mental defense but he can't even due by reason of insanity there is too much proof he knew what he was doing. And that it was wrong. With even the little we know. He can't fight premeditation I've heard that one covered pretty well too and some of the more recent things are confirming that.
I'd really like to see if Jackson can do a serious case where he can't use the same bunch of b.s. And then even if he tries, he possibly may very well have represented Nick (one thought with some) for the Reiner and the Reiner family. And the parents had a lot who loved them... Who were big names and their friends were too... And it is all family. It's nothing like Read.
Nick isn't Karen Read and going and playing a YT thing while bitching about publicity at the same time and going on media and shows just can't be done in the same way.
I think it would be pretty hard to attack the department either. From the start, this seems to have been have been handled very professionally and seriously as again opposed to the Read case.
There's so much speculation out there but I would agree with the ones who have said things like I've said above here and my comparison to Read is my own take on it.
Short of the entire family being on Nick's side and saying the parents wouldn't want this either despite what he did AND a prosecutor listening to them (not all do to the victims), he won't get a plea taking it downwards and even then he likely wouldn't as the crime is too horrible and intentional, etc. with a ton of proof just from the little the public even knows to be fact.
I'm not going on at you as I'd hope you know after all these years, I just started to remark and went into the whole thing and some of what I've seen and believe.