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ANNA KEPNER: Teen found dead on Carnival cruise ship, murder suspected (8 Viewers)

GrandmaBear said:
Ship came into Miami on scheduled day, Saturday. ME says she died on Friday. He is unsure how they know that.
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Because this is exactly what an ME is trained and educated to find out. This is also why I hate it when places have a coroner that is just some Joe Blow that is only required to take a very small amount of hours of training each year. In my state, they can have no actual medical training and only required to take a very small amount of hours of training each year AFTER they get the job.

Sure glad it was an ME doing the job, rather than a coroner.
 
Guess Who said:
Because this is exactly what an ME is trained and educated to find out. This is also why I hate it when places have a coroner that is just some Joe Blow that is only required to take a very small amount of hours of training each year. In my state, they can have no actual medical training and only required to take a very small amount of hours of training each year AFTER they get the job.

Sure glad it was an ME doing the job, rather than a coroner.
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Yep, same in my home state. My gf's mom actually was the coroner in the neighboring county, she was no doctor, nurse even, etc. We did have a doctor as ours for a period of time but the one after him wasn't.

The FBI was present and handling so not surprised there was an ME with something like this.

The family knows she is deceased and so I assume she was on the boat and not overboard but there's little info that's come out. It was also said it was a quick turn around. The FBI was on the ship just part of one day and then the cruise ship left. Also the ME seems to confirm her body was on board of course as the ME said she died Friday.

It isn't even out who she went on the ship with i.e., with family or friends or alone, etc.
 
GrandmaBear said:
Yep, same in my home state. My gf's mom actually was the coroner in the neighboring county, she was no doctor, nurse even, etc. We did have a doctor as ours for a period of time but the one after him wasn't.

The FBI was present and handling so not surprised there was an ME with something like this.

The family knows she is deceased and so I assume she was on the boat and not overboard but there's little info that's come out. It was also said it was a quick turn around. The FBI was on the ship just part of one day and then the cruise ship left. Also the ME seems to confirm her body was on board of course as the ME said she died Friday.

It isn't even out who she went on the ship with i.e., with family or friends or alone, etc.
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They can tell by decomp stage, body temp, etc an approx time of death if they are an actual ME, so it is expected of them to be able to tell. Same as any other unattended death where they say when the decedent died. It also could have been as easy as she was wearing a fitness tracker and it recorded when her heart stopped.
 
Guess Who said:
They can tell by decomp stage, body temp, etc an approx time of death if they are an actual ME, so it is expected of them to be able to tell. Same as any other unattended death where they say when the decedent died. It also could have been as easy as she was wearing a fitness tracker and it recorded when her heart stopped.
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True. It could also be a witness/witnesses depending on how she died or if help was called for, etc.

It is being 1arge1y assumed it was homicide but that seems basica11y most1y because of the response, etc. by the FBI, ME, etc.

Stupid computer key. Works when it fee1s 1ike it on1y.
 
Watching something that says ME placed her death at 11:17 a.m. Friday morning. Very specific. There must have been an incident and/or witness I'd have to guess. Or video.
 
Guess Who said:
The pic of her in this looks like she's possibly wearing one

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Cou1d be. It's a1so been said she might have been pronounced dead on the ship of course on Friday and that's where the time of death came from.

Yeah ear1y today some were saying seemed might be homicide but they were going by number of FBI present, how 1ong there, that she came out in a body bag, ME present, etc. I don't think any of that necessari1y means it was a homicide. Even with an overdose though, there cou1d be a crime, they'd have to be sure.

Nothing much has been shared. Don't even know who she was with on the trip, or at the time, or where she was on the ship. I a1so saw peop1e saying an 18 year o1d can't trave1 on Carniva1 a1one, they need a 25 yr o1d adu1t and some a1so said that person has to be in the stateroom with them. I didn't 1ook it up myse1f but I wou1dn't doubt it.
 
Guess Who said:
Welp. I would say this definitely was not an accidental death.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Body of cheerleader, 18, found stuffed under bed on Carnival cruise

The death of 18-year-old cheerleader Anna Kepner has taken an unsettling turn, as sources tell the Daily Mail how her body was found aboard a Carnival Cruise ship.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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Also, states she was headed back to her room after not feeling well, I am now getting the vibes of a "helpful" person "just helping" her to her room that saw an opportunity.

She was also traveling with her family.
 
I saw somewhere the other day, maybe a comment, that she was found under a bed, but wasn't sure if it was rumor/gossip.

So it sounded like she was in her own cabin, did she have a bf with on the cruise or anything? Meet someone?

Not judging but sounds as if no one checked on her after she left dinner sick to see how she was doing before the next day. If the maid found her, no one in the family checked her room before that, I suppose they couldn't get in or get her to answer.

Dad's third marriage. I wouldn't think necessarily all the kids would be tight yet or even stepmom and her. Not blaming there either, just an observation.

Someone on the boat killed her it would seem.
 
Guess Who said:
Also, states she was headed back to her room after not feeling well, I am now getting the vibes of a "helpful" person "just helping" her to her room that saw an opportunity.

She was also traveling with her family.
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Definitely possible... I wonder why a family member did not go with her or check on her after dinner...

Not judging, maybe they did and she did not answer so they figured she was sleeping or something. I wonder if the door was locked or unlocked.
 
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