TX HOLLY CLOUSE: Missing from Louisville, TX - 6 January 1981 - Age 1 *Found Alive*

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Holly Clouse was born on Jan. 24, 1980. As of this posting, she would be 42 years old. She is a white, blonde female with blue eyes. Her parents were found murdered in 1981 and were not identified until January 2022. When they were identified, the family let officials know that they had a daughter named Holly. Holly's remains were not discovered in the area and she could be alive and well, completely unaware of what happened to her parents!


Thread about her parents: TX - HARRIS COUNTY DOES: W/NF & W/NM, 15-25 & 18-30, found in wooded area in Houston, TX - 12 Jan 1981 TINA LINN & HAROLD CLOUSE

Media:HOLLY CLOUSE's parents were murdered in 1981 in #TEXAS. When they were identified in 2022, the family immediately asked "WHERE IS HOLLY?"
 
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and who didn't question them when they said they had also left another baby in a similar fashion. Who is that child and who are it's parents?
Yeah, that too. Where was that child left again? It wasn't a church but somewhere else. I'm way behind on the site again but did read that, just can't recall where it was.
 
Yeah, that too. Where was that child left again? It wasn't a church but somewhere else. I'm way behind on the site again but did read that, just can't recall where it was.
It was a laundromat. I just watched the presser. He said that the cult member said they left a baby at the laundromat. He didn’t say they found that baby though. He also did not indicate that her parents left to join a cult, but that the family appeared to find out about the cult when they got the call about the car. The cult woman was arrested over the car issue, but there are no records of the arrest and they are looking into trying to find them.

The family last heard from the couple in October 1980 and their bodies were found in early January 1981.
 
Quite a while ago, I got into researching Cults. I don’t know if this one has a name? There were so many of them during that time. The presser didn’t indicate any names.

The women wore white robes and were barefoot. They were vegetarian and the cult believed in separating the sexes. They did not believe in wearing leather. That’s the one part that sticks out to me, they’re not wearing leather. I’ve never heard of that before. Maybe it’s because of the vegetarian issue. That might be a clue to the name of the cult though.
 
It was a laundromat. I just watched the presser. He said that the cult member said they left a baby at the laundromat. He didn’t say they found that baby though. He also did not indicate that her parents left to join a cult, but that the family appeared to find out about the cult when they got the call about the car. The cult woman was arrested over the car issue, but there are no records of the arrest and they are looking into trying to find them.

The family last heard from the couple in October 1980 and their bodies were found in early January 1981.
Thanks. I don't think I watched the presser but I read the things about the cult and laundromat through a link. I'll have to give a look. I did read the posts here the other day and on a few of the threads when I had a few moments. But yeah that seems to indicate at least two babies were "dumped" by this "cult" if that is even what really happened...
 
Quite a while ago, I got into researching Cults. I don’t know if this one has a name? There were so many of them during that time. The presser didn’t indicate any names.

The women wore white robes and were barefoot. They were vegetarian and the cult believed in separating the sexes. They did not believe in wearing leather. That’s the one part that sticks out to me, they’re not wearing leather. I’ve never heard of that before. Maybe it’s because of the vegetarian issue. That might be a clue to the name of the cult though.
most true vegans will not wear leather
 
Thanks. I don't think I watched the presser but I read the things about the cult and laundromat through a link. I'll have to give a look. I did read the posts here the other day and on a few of the threads when I had a few moments. But yeah that seems to indicate at least two babies were "dumped" by this "cult" if that is even what really happened...
I’m starting to wonder how many other murder cases they were responsible for where children weren’t involved?
 
That’s what I was wondering.

I don’t recall any cults that were vegan? There were so many cults during that time though, who knows.
I imagine a cult and cult leader can make itself anything it wants, however, since most of them start with some biblical type of background (even if they pervert it or warp it entirely, the vegan thing is surprising from a biblical perspective.

Not wearing leather or wearing fur does seem to fit with the concern about eating animals and treatment of animals in general. So if they killed the parents, apparently killing people is okay but not animals... Nonsensical cult rules as usual...
 
I imagine a cult and cult leader can make itself anything it wants, however, since most of them start with some biblical type of background (even if they pervert it or warp it entirely, the vegan thing is surprising from a biblical perspective.

Not wearing leather or wearing fur does seem to fit with the concern about eating animals and treatment of animals in general. So if they killed the parents, apparently killing people is okay but not animals... Nonsensical cult rules as usual...


In the interview with the aunt, she says that Dean did take off with a cult in Florida for a little while. He came home! Maybe he really did get wrapped up with another one, or, did the original cult get mad that he left and they tracked him down to Texas?
 


In the interview with the aunt, she says that Dean did take off with a cult in Florida for a little while. He came home! Maybe he really did get wrapped up with another one, or, did the original cult get mad that he left and they tracked him down to Texas?

THAT is what I was thinking of, you found it. I knew I read or heard at a link here that HE had dabbled with the cult thing a bit before and I knew it was from a family member. He sounds/sounded like someone who was kind of dancing with different things, ways, or a free spirit or maybe looking for a purpose...? Young and influenced maybe...
 
THAT is what I was thinking of, you found it. I knew I read or heard at a link here that HE had dabbled with the cult thing a bit before and I knew it was from a family member. He sounds/sounded like someone who was kind of dancing with different things, ways, or a free spirit or maybe looking for a purpose...? Young and influenced maybe...
Cults were more of an allure back in the day, and many gained popularity due to the communal living craze. I used to follow a missing person case of a female who they thought left to join a cult. She contacted me, or at least I believed it was her who contacted me, and asked that her information be removed because she was home now. Since everything came off of NamUS as well, I obliged. That’s during the time when I was investigating all these cults. There were so many that I have no idea which cult this could’ve been, But they aren’t as popular now as they were when the Clouses were killed.

How many more of the unidentified out there haven’t been reported missing because their families believe they are living in a cult?
 
Cults were more of an allure back in the day, and many gained popularity due to the communal living craze. I used to follow a missing person case of a female who they thought left to join a cult. She contacted me, or at least I believed it was her who contacted me, and asked that her information be removed because she was home now. Since everything came off of NamUS as well, I obliged. That’s during the time when I was investigating all these cults. There were so many that I have no idea which cult this could’ve been, But they aren’t as popular now as they were when the Clouses were killed.

How many more of the unidentified out there haven’t been reported missing because their families believe they are living in a cult?
I know they were big along with communes in the 70s. I don't recall if that continued into the 80s but I was an early 80s grad and a lot of those things had toned down some (imo) the free living, drugs, sex, etc. but not sure about cults.

Not doubting it though at all because this clearly was a cult and clearly he had dabbled in such and the people with the car were part of a cult.

I'm glad the one you were following made her way home. I wonder if there are fewer of them or they are just more "under cover" because we do still hear of them but maybe it isn't so "out there" or "acceptable" as part of the times.

There probably truly were well meaning and harmless ones maybe back in the day but some of them as we know are downright criminal and amoral. This one apparently was murderous (IF killed by cult members).

I wonder yes how many were thought to be living in cults never reported as missing and then even those that just headed west or went hitchhiking etc. some parents thought the same of... However, even on here there seem to be a LOT of missing people from that era...
 

Texas' Baby Holly murder mystery to get 9-episode true crime podcast​

Cristina Corbin had spent months digging into the decades-old murder of Dean and Tina Clouse when her phone rang from an unknown caller.

On the other end was "Sister Susan," a former member of the Christ Family cult, to which the couple had belonged shortly before their murder in 1981.

"She was not happy," Corbin recalled. "She was upset with any suggestion, any implication she might be connected to these crimes."

The interview is one of several key moments in a new podcast, "What About Holly?" that examines the murder of Dean and Tina Clouse and the hunt for their baby daughter, Holly Marie.

Corbin, a podcast host and producer with Fox News' Investigative Unit, embarked on the project after reading a story in the Chronicle in January, which broke the news of the identification of Dean and Tina's remains.

"The headline really grabbed me," she recalled. "As I read the story, I realized this was more than two unsolved murders -- there was a missing baby, a cult, it had broad appeal. ... I thought it was a perfect story."

The Chronicle's story detailed how the slain couple had recently moved to Texas from Florida and then disappeared in late 1980, a disappearance that had left the couple's relatives wondering, for decades, what had happened to their loved ones. The paper spent the next 10 months writing about Texas' missing and nameless dead. Stories examined unidentified remains in Harris County and the identification of Peggy Dodd, in Fort Bend County, after decades.

The newspaper's stories recounted the anguish the couple's relatives had experienced; and details about a strange call Dean's mother, Donna Casasanta, received from a person offering to drive his car back to her from California.

Casasanta ultimately met Sister Susan at the Daytona Speedway to recover her car — but the meeting failed to provide any clarity on what had happened to her son and his wife.

Corbin spent 10 months digging deeper into the case on an investigation that would take her to Texas, Florida and elsewhere. Her investigation unearthed new information — including unreported details from the Harris County Sheriff's Office's case file, interviews with members of the "Christ Family" -- the religious group that Dean and Tina had connected with at one point, and Holly Marie's first public statement.

In March, she traveled to Houston with Casasanta to visit the site where the couple's bodies were found.

"It was heart wrenching," she said, watching Casasanta, now in her 80s, pick her way through the scrubby forest to stand at the spot where police had found his body. "She wanted to pray over the spot where the remains were found."

Months later, as she was wrapping up production, she got the call from Sister Susan. They spent more than an hour negotiating, and soon, Corbin was on a plane to interview her. The next day, they met in a hotel room, where they spoke for several hours.

Sister Susan answered all of Corbin's questions, but her version "differed dramatically" from Casasanta's recollection of the evening her son's car was returned to her.

"It was very difficult to reconcile those differences," Corbin said. "I have no idea if she was telling the truth. She seemed very convincing, and you want to take someone at their word, but it's up to the prosecutor (or other investigators) to figure that one out."


 

Texas' Baby Holly murder mystery to get 9-episode true crime podcast​

Cristina Corbin had spent months digging into the decades-old murder of Dean and Tina Clouse when her phone rang from an unknown caller.

On the other end was "Sister Susan," a former member of the Christ Family cult, to which the couple had belonged shortly before their murder in 1981.

"She was not happy," Corbin recalled. "She was upset with any suggestion, any implication she might be connected to these crimes."

The interview is one of several key moments in a new podcast, "What About Holly?" that examines the murder of Dean and Tina Clouse and the hunt for their baby daughter, Holly Marie.

Corbin, a podcast host and producer with Fox News' Investigative Unit, embarked on the project after reading a story in the Chronicle in January, which broke the news of the identification of Dean and Tina's remains.

"The headline really grabbed me," she recalled. "As I read the story, I realized this was more than two unsolved murders -- there was a missing baby, a cult, it had broad appeal. ... I thought it was a perfect story."

The Chronicle's story detailed how the slain couple had recently moved to Texas from Florida and then disappeared in late 1980, a disappearance that had left the couple's relatives wondering, for decades, what had happened to their loved ones. The paper spent the next 10 months writing about Texas' missing and nameless dead. Stories examined unidentified remains in Harris County and the identification of Peggy Dodd, in Fort Bend County, after decades.

The newspaper's stories recounted the anguish the couple's relatives had experienced; and details about a strange call Dean's mother, Donna Casasanta, received from a person offering to drive his car back to her from California.

Casasanta ultimately met Sister Susan at the Daytona Speedway to recover her car — but the meeting failed to provide any clarity on what had happened to her son and his wife.

Corbin spent 10 months digging deeper into the case on an investigation that would take her to Texas, Florida and elsewhere. Her investigation unearthed new information — including unreported details from the Harris County Sheriff's Office's case file, interviews with members of the "Christ Family" -- the religious group that Dean and Tina had connected with at one point, and Holly Marie's first public statement.

In March, she traveled to Houston with Casasanta to visit the site where the couple's bodies were found.

"It was heart wrenching," she said, watching Casasanta, now in her 80s, pick her way through the scrubby forest to stand at the spot where police had found his body. "She wanted to pray over the spot where the remains were found."

Months later, as she was wrapping up production, she got the call from Sister Susan. They spent more than an hour negotiating, and soon, Corbin was on a plane to interview her. The next day, they met in a hotel room, where they spoke for several hours.

Sister Susan answered all of Corbin's questions, but her version "differed dramatically" from Casasanta's recollection of the evening her son's car was returned to her.

"It was very difficult to reconcile those differences," Corbin said. "I have no idea if she was telling the truth. She seemed very convincing, and you want to take someone at their word, but it's up to the prosecutor (or other investigators) to figure that one out."



I’m gonna have to listen to that podcast. That sounds really interesting. But I’m not gonna put much faith in Sister Susan’s explanation. She has motivation to lie, Dean’s mother doesn’t.
 
I’m gonna have to listen to that podcast. That sounds really interesting. But I’m not gonna put much faith in Sister Susan’s explanation. She has motivation to lie, Dean’s mother doesn’t.
But she is a "Sister" she wouldn't lie. Sarcasm intended.

Yes, I agree with you. Mom wants answers. No reason at ALL to lie.
 

Texas' Baby Holly murder mystery to get 9-episode true crime podcast​

Cristina Corbin had spent months digging into the decades-old murder of Dean and Tina Clouse when her phone rang from an unknown caller.

On the other end was "Sister Susan," a former member of the Christ Family cult, to which the couple had belonged shortly before their murder in 1981.

"She was not happy," Corbin recalled. "She was upset with any suggestion, any implication she might be connected to these crimes."

The interview is one of several key moments in a new podcast, "What About Holly?" that examines the murder of Dean and Tina Clouse and the hunt for their baby daughter, Holly Marie.

Corbin, a podcast host and producer with Fox News' Investigative Unit, embarked on the project after reading a story in the Chronicle in January, which broke the news of the identification of Dean and Tina's remains.

"The headline really grabbed me," she recalled. "As I read the story, I realized this was more than two unsolved murders -- there was a missing baby, a cult, it had broad appeal. ... I thought it was a perfect story."

The Chronicle's story detailed how the slain couple had recently moved to Texas from Florida and then disappeared in late 1980, a disappearance that had left the couple's relatives wondering, for decades, what had happened to their loved ones. The paper spent the next 10 months writing about Texas' missing and nameless dead. Stories examined unidentified remains in Harris County and the identification of Peggy Dodd, in Fort Bend County, after decades.

The newspaper's stories recounted the anguish the couple's relatives had experienced; and details about a strange call Dean's mother, Donna Casasanta, received from a person offering to drive his car back to her from California.

Casasanta ultimately met Sister Susan at the Daytona Speedway to recover her car — but the meeting failed to provide any clarity on what had happened to her son and his wife.

Corbin spent 10 months digging deeper into the case on an investigation that would take her to Texas, Florida and elsewhere. Her investigation unearthed new information — including unreported details from the Harris County Sheriff's Office's case file, interviews with members of the "Christ Family" -- the religious group that Dean and Tina had connected with at one point, and Holly Marie's first public statement.

In March, she traveled to Houston with Casasanta to visit the site where the couple's bodies were found.

"It was heart wrenching," she said, watching Casasanta, now in her 80s, pick her way through the scrubby forest to stand at the spot where police had found his body. "She wanted to pray over the spot where the remains were found."

Months later, as she was wrapping up production, she got the call from Sister Susan. They spent more than an hour negotiating, and soon, Corbin was on a plane to interview her. The next day, they met in a hotel room, where they spoke for several hours.

Sister Susan answered all of Corbin's questions, but her version "differed dramatically" from Casasanta's recollection of the evening her son's car was returned to her.

"It was very difficult to reconcile those differences," Corbin said. "I have no idea if she was telling the truth. She seemed very convincing, and you want to take someone at their word, but it's up to the prosecutor (or other investigators) to figure that one out."



I listened to the first episode and it was really good! I don’t know how to listen to podcasts without downloading the app which takes up all the room out of my phone. So I don’t know how to get to the second episode, if there is one?
 
I listened to the first episode and it was really good! I don’t know how to listen to podcasts without downloading the app which takes up all the room out of my phone. So I don’t know how to get to the second episode, if there is one?
There are 9 or 10 episodes.
Do you already have Apple Podcasts or Spotify on your phone? It is available through both. You can also listen on a PC
 

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