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Luigi Mangione's lawyers seek to delay his state and federal trials
Luigi Mangione 's lawyers asked a judge on Wednesday to postpone his federal trial in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson until early next year and said they will seek to have his state murder trial delayed until September.

In a letter to U.S. District Judge Margaret Garnett, Mangione's lawyers said that the current schedule — the state trial in June and the federal trial in September — would put him “in the position of needing to prepare for two complicated and serious trials at the same time.”

They asked Garnett to delay the federal trial until January 2027 so that they can have an opportunity to ask the state trial judge, Gregory Carro, to reschedule the start of that case from June 8 to Sept. 8. Mangione has pleaded not guilty in both cases.

Carro previously raised the possibility of moving the state trial to September — but only if federal prosecutors appealed Garnett’s decision barring them from seeking the death penalty. They declined to do so, leaving the June state trial and September federal trial dates intact.

Keeping the current schedule would violate Mangione's constitutional rights, his lawyers argued.

Among other concerns, they said, preparations for jury selection in the federal case would overlap with the state trial, limiting Mangione's ability to review questionnaires filled out by hundreds of potential jurors — infringing on his right to participate in his own defense.

Back-to-back trials would also rob Mangione of his right to effective assistance of counsel, his lawyers said, because they would be forced to prepare for the federal trial while simultaneously defending him in court at the state trial.

“Though fierce advocates for their clients, defense counsel cannot be in two places at once,” wrote Mangione's lawyers, Karen Friedman Agnifilo, Marc Agnifilo and Jacob Kaplan.

Without a delay, they wrote, “Mr. Mangione’s potential federal jurors will be constantly bombarded with news reports and social media posts relating to the allegations and evidence against Mr. Mangione as they fill out juror questionnaires and in the subsequent weeks before they are empaneled in the federal case.”


Federal prosecutors oppose the request and will respond in a letter of their own, Mangione's lawyers said.
 
This is interesting stuff here. We could start a whole thread on this probably. Part of this bill I would endorse for sure. Most states should be doing this, I think this follows the Florida model. But I still question whether is significantly reduces average premiums for most drivers. But it is important that fraud is actually prosecuted.
 
This is interesting stuff here. We could start a whole thread on this probably. Part of this bill I would endorse for sure. Most states should be doing this, I think this follows the Florida model. But I still question whether is significantly reduces average premiums for most drivers. But it is important that fraud is actually prosecuted.
Agreed! Interest costs are rising at an astronomical rate! I was married to a business owner and one of the employees was trying to fraud Workmen’s Comp. and Workmen’s Comp. said it was easier just to pay it out then to fight it in court. That has always grinded on my nerves. If they would start prosecuting some of the fraud, it would send a message to would-be fraudsters!
 
Agreed! Interest costs are rising at an astronomical rate! I was married to a business owner and one of the employees was trying to fraud Workmen’s Comp. and Workmen’s Comp. said it was easier just to pay it out then to fight it in court. That has always grinded on my nerves. If they would start prosecuting some of the fraud, it would send a message to would-be fraudsters!
The expense of prosecuting is the problem though and why it's easier and cheaper to just pay out.
 
The expense of prosecuting is the problem though and why it's easier and cheaper to just pay out.
It really shouldn't be though. The State could just dedicate a couple of prosecutors from the AG's officer and this is what they do. They are already on salary. We see quite a bit of medicaid fraud prosecutions now and this could just go the same route.
 
It really shouldn't be though. The State could just dedicate a couple of prosecutors from the AG's officer and this is what they do. They are already on salary. We see quite a bit of medicaid fraud prosecutions now and this could just go the same route.
It's the insurance attorneys and experts they hire that cost the insurance so much.
 
It really shouldn't be though. The State could just dedicate a couple of prosecutors from the AG's officer and this is what they do. They are already on salary. We see quite a bit of medicaid fraud prosecutions now and this could just go the same route.
You are the voice of reason!
 
It really shouldn't be though. The State could just dedicate a couple of prosecutors from the AG's officer and this is what they do. They are already on salary. We see quite a bit of medicaid fraud prosecutions now and this could just go the same route.

I worked at the hospital with residents about to become full fledged doctors. You would not believe what their malpractice insurance costs.
 

Luigi Mangione's federal trial in killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO delayed again​

A federal judge in New York on Thursday further delayed Luigi Mangione's federal trial in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

The move follows a decision by a different judge, made on Wednesday, to push his state trial to September 8.

Judge Gregory Carro, the judge in the state case, gave no reason for delaying the start to September, but the defense had been requesting it.

Mangione's federal trial will now begin in January 2027 with jury selection on the 5th and opening statements on the 25th.
 

Luigi Mangione's federal trial in killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO delayed again​

A federal judge in New York on Thursday further delayed Luigi Mangione's federal trial in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

The move follows a decision by a different judge, made on Wednesday, to push his state trial to September 8.

Judge Gregory Carro, the judge in the state case, gave no reason for delaying the start to September, but the defense had been requesting it.

Mangione's federal trial will now begin in January 2027 with jury selection on the 5th and opening statements on the 25th.

What does the defense need more time for? To erase the tape?
 

Latest Luigi Mangione hearing shrouded in secrecy as judge shuts out press and public​

A hearing in Luigi Mangione ’s state murder case in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was held in secret Wednesday after the judge shut out the press and public without explanation.

New York Judge Gregory Carro said he sealed the virtual proceeding at the request of the defense but provided no other details, raising questions about transparency in the closely watched case.

Court hearings in the U.S. are presumptively open to the public, but judges are permitted to close them in certain circumstances, such as to protect sensitive or confidential information.

Carro held the hearing in his chambers at the Manhattan courthouse where Mangione is set to go to trial on Sept. 8. Mangione, his lawyers and prosecutors all appeared via video conference. A lawyer representing news organizations sent a letter to Carro asking his reasons for sealing the hearing but was ignored by the judge and rebuffed by his staff.

When the lawyer, Jeremy Chase, called Carro’s chambers Wednesday morning, he said the judge’s clerk told him: “We don’t read emails or letters at night. We go home.” She then hung up on him, he said in an email to news organizations obtained by The Associated Press.

After Wednesday’s hearing, Carro returned to the courtroom and announced it’s “sealed at the moment.” He scheduled an in-person hearing for June 16. That one, he said, will be open to the public.


Typically when virtual hearings are scheduled in New York courts, the press and public are able to follow along by watching on TV monitors in the judge’s courtroom. When a party requests that a proceeding be sealed, a judge will often solicit input from the other side and allow third parties, such as the public and news media, to also provide input.

An AP reporter emailed Carro directly on Tuesday, asking him to share, even broadly, his reasoning for sealing Wednesday’s hearing, and whether a transcript or recording would be provided. The judge didn’t respond and, instead, forwarded the email to the court’s press office.
 

Luigi Mangione's hearing delayed a day after DA failed to tell jail he's needed in court​

A hearing in Luigi Mangione ’s state murder case in the killing UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was postponed until Wednesday after prosecutors failed to inform his jailors that he was needed in court.

Judge Gregory Carro had scheduled the hearing for Tuesday but adjourned it about a half-hour after it was supposed to start when Assistant District Attorney Joel Seidemann told him that prosecutors had failed to send required paperwork to the jail.

“It’s on us,” Seidemann said. “We got the writ signed but we failed to serve it.”

“That’s unfortunate,” Carro replied.

Seidemann noted that the judge in Mangione’s federal case, Margaret Garnett, had sent an order to the jail authorizing him to wear a suit to court, but the prosecutor acknowledged that alone wasn’t enough to get him brought to court.

Mangione, 28, is being held at a federal jail in Brooklyn while awaiting trial in state and federal trials in the Dec. 4, 2024, killing. He has pleaded not guilty in both cases and could spend his life in prison if convicted in either case.

Carro had been expected to rule Tuesday on an unspecified matter after holding a secret hearing two weeks ago. Carro said he sealed the virtual proceeding at the request of the defense but provided no other details at the time.

Any ruling from Carro would now come on Wednesday.
 

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