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The Murder of Rob and Michele Reiner in Brentwood, California

Tresir said:
No i think he was a proven addict still under rehab, apparently $70k monthly costs, at the time of his arrest. I guess he is in prison rehab now - since his arrest.
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Yeah. IDK if he was living there at the time or at rehab. He shouldn't have been out if in rehab. He went to the party too. Rehab you stay there. Too risky to let them come and go.
 
Mel70 said:
If that's the case. They weren't in the middle of an argument. To me that further says it was planned.
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Mel70 said:
I read that Romy found them. She called 911, and didn't know Michelle was dead when she found Rob.
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Yeah, there could be a few reasons for that. Maybe she could only see her dad and instantly bolted and called for helpl, for who knows what reason. Blankets, maybe one managed to get a bit away or fell off the bed but they know they were attacked in bed, etc. Separate bedrooms. Or one could have even survived for a bit and made it into another room but they could tell from the trail of blood, etc., they were attacked in bed. And so on and so on.
 
Mel70 said:
Yeah. IDK if he was living there at the time or at rehab. He shouldn't have been out if in rehab. He went to the party too. Rehab you stay there. Too risky to let them come and go.
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That's what I say. If his meds were so messed up and causing problems, he should have remained until straightened out. However, you can't keep an adult that doesn't want to stay butr yeah...
 
I've actually seen a lot more of Rob and Nick's interview off and on today between doing other things. There is a lot more than the first bit I had seen of it...
 
GrandmaBear said:
That's what I say. If his meds were so messed up and causing problems, he should have remained until straightened out. However, you can't keep an adult that doesn't want to stay butr yeah...
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Yes. Unless it's an involuntary hold. But, because his meds were not working. They should have been able to do something. The sister said he was dangerous. But, IDK when she said that. Danger to yourself or others gets 72 hour hold.
 
Mel70 said:
Yes. Unless it's an involuntary hold. But, because his meds were not working. They should have been able to do something. The sister said he was dangerous. But, IDK when she said that. Danger to yourself or others gets 72 hour hold.
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The way I heard it, the sister said that to LE. And yet I have also heard she didn't point her finger immediately at Nick. Lots of conflicting info.

An involuntary hold is 72 hours isn't it? It would seem since they go on about the facility being $70K a month that it's likely it was not an involuntary hold. HOWEVER, I don't think it is even known that it was that facility that had anything to do with changing his meds. As far as I know a lot of such is speculation.

Yeah, hard to know what the facts are as to all of that...
 
GrandmaBear said:
The way I heard it, the sister said that to LE. And yet I have also heard she didn't point her finger immediately at Nick. Lots of conflicting info.

An involuntary hold is 72 hours isn't it? It would seem since they go on about the facility being $70K a month that it's likely it was not an involuntary hold. HOWEVER, I don't think it is even known that it was that facility that had anything to do with changing his meds. As far as I know a lot of such is speculation.

Yeah, hard to know what the facts are as to all of that...
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Yes. 72 hour hold is involuntary.
 
GrandmaBear said:
The way I heard it, the sister said that to LE. And of have also heard she didn't point her finger immediately at Nick. Lots of conflicting info.

An involuntary hold is 72 hours isn't it? It would seem since they go on about the facility being $70K a month that it's likely it was not an involuntary hold. HOWEVER, I don't think it is even known that it was that facility that had anything to do with changing his meds. As far as I know a lot of such is speculation.

Yeah, hard to know what the facts are as to all of that...
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No. The rehab place wouldn't be involuntary. But they would have rules. Permanent involuntary of course you have to have someone committed. But people can deemed unfit to leave. Yes there is a lot of conflicting information. This is a mess to begin with.
 
Mel70 said:
people.com

Rob Reiner's Kids Jake and Romy Are 'Being Incredibly Strong' After Their Parents' Murders (Exclusive Source)

Rob Reiner's son Jake and daughter Romy are being surrounded by support after their parents were killed and brother Nick was charged with murder. "This nightmare came out of nowhere for them," a source tells PEOPLE.
people.com people.com
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A source close says the Reiners never suspected Nick would become violent doesn't exactly fit with Romy saying he was dangerous.

Other than saying the kids have a lot of support, the article is the same old things repeated pretty much.

It does say they were killed in their bedroom...
 
GrandmaBear said:
A source close says the Reiners never suspected Nick would become violent doesn't exactly fit with Romy saying he was dangerous.

Other than saying the kids have a lot of support, the article is the same old things repeated pretty much.

It does say they were killed in their bedroom...
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That's one of the reasons I posted it. Also that Michelle wasn't noticed right away. But. It doesn't say why.
 
Mel70 said:
That's one of the reasons I posted it. Also that Michelle wasn't noticed right away. But. It doesn't say why.
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Yeah, there honestly have been few articles that have said that about the bed/bedroom. More of course will probably start picking it up now that that's out though.

All I can figure is Romy got a glimpse of dad only and ran and called for help. I believe she went over with someone if I recall but I'm not sure they entered the home with her, seems like they didn't. I saw that somewhere.

I don't know what I'd do in such a horrible situation and finding such. I'd think I'd run towards my parent to try to save, even if fairly certain it was too late... Hard to know though as haven't been faced with such a thing and never want to be of course.
 
Maybe others knew, but I had no idea Billy Crystal had said so much. That's what this mostly is.

It does say Romy saw her dad and instantly fled, not seeing Michelle who was in a different area. Yet at the end it said they were in the bedroom so they don't exactly compute, those two statements. A master bedroom in a mansion is probably a suite with sitting area, maybe living room and more, dressing rooms and so on. So maybe that explains it, she was just not right where Romy saw her...

Anyhow Rob talked to Billy about Nick in November, calling him over.

And it is said he relapsed and had relapsed many, many times.

And a lot more.

 
Oh and there were issues and arguments about money, and rehab.

Nick carried a knife around and talked to himself.

We hear he lives in the guest house but in many of these things it sounds as if he is in the home for the most part. Hard to say.
 
Watching another one where it is said nannies unexpectedly quit, in later years, help was sacred of Nick, etc.

He had imaginary friends well into adolescence supposedly and once at 11 tried to cut the heads off of all his action figures, not as a joke, but saying they talked too much.

Rob pulled strings, Michelle wrote checks. Trouble he got into just disappeared, pulling strings... Worse yet once a teenager. Carved eyes into the wall.

A lot more.

He always had a knife, always present. Siblings kept their distance and one reportedly stopped visiting all together.

Rob tried to help for years, then gave UP. Nick met every effort with hostility. Rob tried spiritual advisers, he sat in on therapy, alternative treatments, even a private chef to balance Nick's energy... Okay...

There must be a lot more people and sources talking than I knew of. I'm not done with this one yet but what I just said comes from this one.

 
Mel70 said:
No. The rehab place wouldn't be involuntary. But they would have rules. Permanent involuntary of course you have to have someone committed. But people can deemed unfit to leave. Yes there is a lot of conflicting information. This is a mess to begin with.
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There’s inpatient rehab and outpatient rehab. I’m assuming he was an outpatient.
 
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