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Hmm, so they probably have both LE agencies from there. I know they have Kern County and believe it is Bakersfield PD. I will give the Chief of Cali that, at least he is using other help including the FBI, so many do not, egos I guess...
I think it also depends on what resources they have in their own departments.
I can't help but think they have more reason for it. The Chief tried to put it down to they do that when kids are missing or something happened but a reporter said, that was not the case in his town, not automatically at all and the Chief never responded to that... I did not think it was generally that easy unless of course they found some type of evidence right off the bat or caught the parents in lies or something... Or, like you said above, maybe something one of the other children said/shared gave them the ability to remove them...
Personally, I think they should always take the kids aside and ask them a few questions and see if a more permanent removal is warranted.
I think sometimes parental rights get violated too but I agree that if there is a basis for anything, then they should do that. If they were called to the house for a missing child, domestic abuse and any thing like that, for SURE.
Yes that's what I mean. Something where someone's life is being threatened.
When she was nodding like that I was thinking that she was thinking "yep that's the story that's the story". Years and years ago I took a rapport class to help with dealing with customer service and we did a eye contact class for a whole day and they said that most of the time when somebody's looking up they're trying to recall information and when they're looking down they're trying to make up information. Every time he looked down it was about the story of how they went missing. I need to go and look at it again but I don't think he looked down at all when he was talking about something that was easy to talk about.
That's interesting. I think everything they did like that was rehearsed and staged. I suspect she thought her nodding would make her look understanding of people's concerns, in agreement with him of the "FACTS" which they are purporting, etc. I should watch again too, I never looked much at the looking up or down with him or noted it. I know rewatching is what made me really notice how much she nodded. In the first watches, most of us including me were more noticing her swaying... Maybe that was meant to be a distraction... Lol. Overanalyzing I am.
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You often see investigators using this during interrogations.
That's interesting you say that because as I did that post, it popped into my head that I bet detectives/investigators have had courses on creating "rapport" and interviewing a witness or suspect... Never thought of that before... I mean I have seen the good cop/bad cop routine and like having the 2nd person in another interview room and going back and forth and saying the one is spilling the beans and sure they are trained in that but... I mean I have seen sympathy used or understanding but I never really thought of training on nonverbal things and using that themselves...
That twinning that you described is was actually discussed in that same rapport class! We were told to cross our legs if the other person is crossing their legs, nod our head office they nod their head, etc.
That's exactly it! If using it knowingly, not absolutely immediately or you will be noticeable, ya know like your little sibling copying every movement you make immediately to irritate you, but yep, seconds or a minute or so after, casually... I found it so intriguing and so very interesting to watch people after reading that...
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I watched a portion of one of the YouTube tapes of the search. You can find them on YouTube and I'll try to remember to bring the link in later when I'm not on my phone.More than 100 search for missing Cal City boys in desert near their houseMore than 100 search for missing Cal City boys in desert near their house
"This process is just basically looking for anything. we don't even know if the boys were wearing shoes or socks at that time," Heather Dingley, from California City, said. "For me I see a mound of sand that maybe looks new, I'm going to kick it over, I'm gonna' dig it up. "Saturday, more than...
This process is just basically looking for anything. we don't even know if the boys were wearing shoes or socks at that time," Heather Dingley, from California City, said. "For me I see a mound of sand that maybe looks new, I'm going to kick it over, I'm gonna' dig it up."
Saturday, more than one hundred people searched through the desert, just to the East of the house where four year-old Orrin and three year-old Orson West were last seen, December 21st.
If someone found something of interest, they would raise their hands and police would come to them and the take evidence if needed.
"People keep asking me, Can we help? Can we help? Can we help?" Jon Walker, Police Chief for California City Police, said. "I'm not turning down any help from anyone. I'm very grateful that they want to come out and look for these kids."
Chief Walker, says right now police are waiting on the analysis results from the items that were taken from the house, the boys were last seen. Those household goods and electronic items are being analyzed in Bakersfield.
People searching tell Eyewitness News, they're not going to stop.
"I feel at this point a personal connection to these kids," Dingley, said. "I went out searching the night they disappeared, the next day on foot just going through the desert behind my house."
Walker says they're not ruling anything out at this point. They haven't identified anyone. Right now, they're trying to eliminate suspects.
