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KIMBERLY HYDE: Utah woman murdered in October 2024 - Man charged claims setup

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This is fairly long, about an hour. I saw it come up yesterday but wasn't compelled to watch it. Now today, it started for me somehow by me not starting it. So I stopped it but was on the page and started to skim the chat, just to see if worth a watch, etc. The chat is FULL of people saying police have the wrong guy and that her husband framed this guy. That the police department is corrupt and inept, etc. TONS of people saying such. Well, now I have to watch it to see what I think of him. This guy fled the country but saw an interview with Nate by two people who knew Kimberly, I think relatives, and wanted to give his side to Nate...

Not sure what I think yet, I haven't watched it, just starting to. Seems to be another LDS case... I do think I watched the family members on with Nate but it was a time ago. @Kimster Have you watched this? I know you watch most of Nate's too so just asking...?

 
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Well I am suspicious and if Henry has copies of those calls then he isn't lying.

Henry has no motive to kill his neighbour either, and has CCTV too.

I am wondering if there was life insurance on Kimberley?
Pretty sure I heard there was. Life insurance. Was it from him, on Nate?

I think her family if I recall actually suspects the husband. We need to go watch that again I'd say.

One thought I had on Henry (is that the guy's name?) is it was said Kimberly was like a child welfare social worker or something. The wife and son claimed Henry was abusive... COULD that be a motive, Kimberly knew or was talking to or helping them? Or $$$, could have even been in it with the hub. I'm not saying he isn't telling the truth and innocent, just that I'm not sure. Some things just don't make sense to me. I hope he will get in comments on Nate's or appear again and answer some of these things...

There is a side of me that wants to and does believe him but I'm also kind of wary of doing so too quickly when I have a lot of unanswered questions...

He couldn't have been too close to his own wife to never question if she was really out with Kimberly... Seemed to believe she was... Never questioned the hub on taking wife's car to pick "them" up or who "them" was, just assumed it was wife and Kimberly... HOW could he not know these things or where his wife was??It's just strange... He ignored these unknown calls but then answers eventually...

I just really don't know. It is sad of course but it sure is intriguing. They charged him, they must have SOMETHING for evidence and more than just things that can be made to go away or can be disproven...

He couldn't explain the blood on his driveway to Nate. He said the blood in garage was from groceries they buy once a month... Meat dripping, etc. Boy I don't know...
 
Here is the one that got us talking today. This accused man had fled to the Phillipines. A time ago, the dead woman's family was on Nate's show. He saw it and he contacted Nate. He has a warrant out for him. Nate had him on his show yesterday, I watched it today. He is claiming he is innocent, framed by the husband. Comments under the video have tons claiming the husband is guilty, awful, from people who claim to live there, etc. The husband is not charged though, this neighbor is. It's an hour but it is what started this out today.

I am going to try to find the family members' (of the dead woman) video with Nate next before I get sidetracked or forget.

Very interested on people's take on listening to him...

I'm undecided...

 
Hmmm. Just five minutes in. At the time I watched it back when we did not have this context as now... Odd... TO listen now as opposed to what the accused guy said to Nate now... Reserving judgment until I finish...
 
23 of 35 minutes in and i'm convinced it is the husband. Sounds so much like Daybell commenting about his wife's weight at her funeral, etc. Still reserving judgment though, neighbor came up too, and I have some minutes to go yet...
 
didn't marry her right away but will say he had this gf very close after his wife's death... more to listen to but right now hub is guilty in my mind but i can't quite release the neighbor... i recall he comes up in the end i think of that video... he came up in the beginning... Too... Right now I am at where hub is guilty and maybe neighbor helped him... shall see what i end feeling like...
 
Oh boyyy. I may watch this a third time. Husband DEFINITELY suspicious, cops seemed to be failures at their job, keystone cops, but now it is back to the neighbor, his son, getting rid of evidence and fleeing to the Phillipines... of course extended family isn't going to know everything from detectives and this was a few months ago... That they did this show with Nate. I have about 8 minutes left...

Right now I'm thinking both guys were in on it... I don't know but things are very odd on both parts...
 
Entire family of neighbor was involved with cleaning up the crime scene.

On the other hand, I don't think these women are in the loop, detectives don't share everything with everyone, even family. they are learning some of this from the news at the time...

I'm still right now bent on the husband and neighbors both did this... But am still open and not convinced.... 5 minutes to go...
 
her husband is selling all of her stuff on FB, even curling irons and little things....
Meaning no offfense to anyone but I can't help it with a lot of these LDS crimes. I get that some could say well these people were Lutheran and did these crimes and this person was this or that but it's just so many these last years... Hub sounds so much like Chad Daybell in behavior... Neighbors added is different though...
 
Okayyyy. The last five minutes are impactful and watching this after hearing the accused guy today is really different than watching it a few months ago...Right now I am thinking (not sure though) the husband and the neighbor and his family did this... OR just the neighbor but the hub acts so bad I think all of them did perhaps...

I need lightness now. Some cooking or Netflix. I may back this up to the beginning minutes tomorrow because there is something about hub and victim about to take a trip and have neighbor take care of some things...

This neighbor MAYBE was set up but I don't know... HE has a lot to explain as far as I'm concerned to convince of that...
 
Thanks for your take on it. At present I don't see a motive for the neighbour other than the husband paying him to kill her or just disposing of her. However, that doesn't explain him just leaving the car, with her in it when he supposedly felt sick due to the smell of blood. Also, why didn't he call the police? He says that he would have been blamed and he is right about that.

Did she have life insurance?
 
Thanks for your take on it. At present I don't see a motive for the neighbour other than the husband paying him to kill her or just disposing of her. However, that doesn't explain him just leaving the car, with her in it when he supposedly felt sick due to the smell of blood. Also, why didn't he call the police? He says that he would have been blamed and he is right about that.

Did she have life insurance?
Yes there was life insurance. Heard it somewhere. Her family video with Nate I think.

I agree Henry does not seem to have motive but man, he has to be the most naive man in the world then!! And I'm not satisfied that he has explained all.

The husband does appear to be guilty BUT cops haven't charged him at all... Evidence must point at Henry only?

I just don't know... I asked some of the things I'm not satisfied with... Re Henry...

All of it. I just don't know. Yet.

I'm wondering if he agreed to do something but did not know exactly what he was in for or part of...?

Per her family and the video with Nate like 3 months back, Henry's son was charged as well...

I think there's something more here, just not sure what it is...

My best guess is they were both involved (hub and Henry)... aT this point anyhow.
 
Yes there was life insurance. Heard it somewhere. Her family video with Nate I think.

I agree Henry does not seem to have motive but man, he has to be the most naive man in the world then!! And I'm not satisfied that he has explained all.

The husband does appear to be guilty BUT cops haven't charged him at all... Evidence must point at Henry only?

I just don't know... I asked some of the things I'm not satisfied with... Re Henry...

All of it. I just don't know. Yet.

I'm wondering if he agreed to do something but did not know exactly what he was in for or part of...?

Per her family and the video with Nate like 3 months back, Henry's son was charged as well...

I think there's something more here, just not sure what it is...

My best guess is they were both involved (hub and Henry)... aT this point anyhow.
Henry's son was only charged with aiding and abetting, so relatively minor. That is probably the picking up of his Dad when he abandoned the car with the body in it.
 
Henry's son was only charged with aiding and abetting, so relatively minor. That is probably the picking up of his Dad when he abandoned the car with the body in it.
Rewatching the family, I'm not sure they even know what to think a few months back. All the way through they are doubting the husband but right near the final part they talk of the neighbor, his son being charged and what not... I don't think they knew much more honestly... And investigators do that, don't share all and certainly are careful on who with until they know what is what, who might be involved, etc.

If Henry did this alone, without the husband, then it is certainly hard to believe happenstance that the husband is as cold as he seems and all the other things about him that stand out. If the husband did it alone, then Henry is naive past naive and fell for a lot and his own wife and son said he was abusive too...

I just feel like there is something more here but also for the above reasons am kind of leaning towards they were both part of it...

I certainly am not sure by any means like I am in some cases, prepared to be quite wrong, but is where I am kind of teetering right now.

It would typically mean something that Henry is charged and they feel they have enough proof but then everyone that claims to be from the area and more in the comments on the Henry video are saying their police department is corrupt, he is innocent, the hub did it, etc...

I don't know but can say I don't find answers from either about some things entirely satisfactory or questions both cause me. Not sure we've heard from the husband other than through the family and what they say and his statements at funeral and so on through others. Have we?

These cops and the DA would have to be really corrupt and bad to be charging a man they don't have anything solid on meaning Henry... IF that's the case. I'd assume they have more and a lot...

Setting him up this good would take a lot imo too and he just fell in line with all of it like a total idiot?

He has to explain getting the code, opening/entering, taking her car, getting the keys? (not sure I remember hearing on that part), blood supposedly in his garage, on his driveway, ignoring boxes in the back of the car, thinking he was picking up his wife and the other wife (victim) yet his wife was not with her, and a whole lot more. AND he fled AND never took her while still breathing to the hospital. IF his neighbors just had a murder or the husband was to be afraid of there, he left his wife and own son to fend for themselves?? Do you kind of see what I'm saying? This is a lot fo fall for, explain and his actions aren't good. He tried to explain it all away, I'll say that. There do seem to be phone calls and such.

How about this? THey are hoping to flip on one on the other? Henry knows more but hasn't flipped yet, they were both part of it? They don't have enough yet on the husband but do on him?

Or how about the hub of the victim lost it on her and turned to Henry for help saying his life would be destroyed... And then they hatched the cover up...

I just don't know. It's turned into an interesting one, that's for sure...

I'd like to know also and we rarely hear if Henry or any of his family were illegals. Have you heard that said in any of it? I don't think I have. It isn't that it totally matters to the crime but he would have more fear of LE maybe and flee more readily if so and might explain part of that...His wife and son may be legal, but not him. That is the case sometimes.
 
Rewatching the family, I'm not sure they even know what to think a few months back. All the way through they are doubting the husband but right near the final part they talk of the neighbor, his son being charged and what not... I don't think they knew much more honestly... And investigators do that, don't share all and certainly are careful on who with until they know what is what, who might be involved, etc.

If Henry did this alone, without the husband, then it is certainly hard to believe happenstance that the husband is as cold as he seems and all the other things about him that stand out. If the husband did it alone, then Henry is naive past naive and fell for a lot and his own wife and son said he was abusive too...

I just feel like there is something more here but also for the above reasons am kind of leaning towards they were both part of it...

I certainly am not sure by any means like I am in some cases, prepared to be quite wrong, but is where I am kind of teetering right now.

It would typically mean something that Henry is charged and they feel they have enough proof but then everyone that claims to be from the area and more in the comments on the Henry video are saying their police department is corrupt, he is innocent, the hub did it, etc...

I don't know but can say I don't find answers from either about some things entirely satisfactory or questions both cause me. Not sure we've heard from the husband other than through the family and what they say and his statements at funeral and so on through others. Have we?

These cops and the DA would have to be really corrupt and bad to be charging a man they don't have anything solid on meaning Henry... IF that's the case. I'd assume they have more and a lot...

Setting him up this good would take a lot imo too and he just fell in line with all of it like a total idiot?

He has to explain getting the code, opening/entering, taking her car, getting the keys? (not sure I remember hearing on that part), blood supposedly in his garage, on his driveway, ignoring boxes in the back of the car, thinking he was picking up his wife and the other wife (victim) yet his wife was not with her, and a whole lot more. AND he fled AND never took her while still breathing to the hospital. IF his neighbors just had a murder or the husband was to be afraid of there, he left his wife and own son to fend for themselves?? Do you kind of see what I'm saying? This is a lot fo fall for, explain and his actions aren't good. He tried to explain it all away, I'll say that. There do seem to be phone calls and such.

How about this? THey are hoping to flip on one on the other? Henry knows more but hasn't flipped yet, they were both part of it? They don't have enough yet on the husband but do on him?

Or how about the hub of the victim lost it on her and turned to Henry for help saying his life would be destroyed... And then they hatched the cover up...

I just don't know. It's turned into an interesting one, that's for sure...

I'd like to know also and we rarely hear if Henry or any of his family were illegals. Have you heard that said in any of it? I don't think I have. It isn't that it totally matters to the crime but he would have more fear of LE maybe and flee more readily if so and might explain part of that...His wife and son may be legal, but not him. That is the case sometimes.
I don't think they were illegals as they had kids that went to school didn't they?

What are the murdered woman's children saying? Are there any interviews? Also what is the full name of the new wife. I saw in the comments that she is Joy Utah but it must be Joy Hyde now right?
 
I don't think they were illegals as they had kids that went to school didn't they?

What are the murdered woman's children saying? Are there any interviews? Also what is the full name of the new wife. I saw in the comments that she is Joy Utah but it must be Joy Hyde now right?
Kids if born here can be legal for one. My sister used to have an employee who if I recall was not legal, two of his kids were, his wife was not and the other kids were not (they had many, I forget 6 or 7. Or perhaps one parent was legal but the other was not. He was a very hard worker, worked like 3 or 4 jobs. I think he was here first with maybe the older boys and then sent for her and the younger kids, again I can't quite recall.

So our laws vary a bit on who is a legal citizen. Also many a state has been ignoring federal laws for years and/or do sanctuary cities and so on.

Our news almost never will say if a perp was illegal also so don't assume just because they are here or own a home, etc. that they aren't or that the kids don't go to school and so on. One can't count on that these days at all.

Federal legal status though can be legal for one family member but another is not. That's why I said I wonder if he is, maybe the kid and mom are but he wasn't so he fled to the Phillipines, etc...

It's also expensive to get an immigration lawyer and travel depending on where you live to try to get legal status. And some can only afford it for one, then another, etc.

I looked quite a bit into our laws back then. They wanted to be all legal. My sister asked me to help with the paperwork for them to get legal. I can tell you that stuff was in "Greek". I'm pretty good at understanding legal things, difficult tax or governement rules, etc. but wasn't easy. I also was working far more than FT at the time and had two kids at home.

The nearest place they could even go was Chicago each time they'd need to go to a court/immigration place, etc. and this was from northern WI.

My stance is anti illegals but I will say that those that wanted at that time anyhow to be legal and do it right, it was a very hard thing to do. I will say that.

Again, it would explain only him fleeing. However, he also would be the one likely looked at for the murder so that may have been the reason...
 

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