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Karen Read accused of backing into boyfriend and leaving him to die *NOT GUILTY* (Guilty of OUI) (8 Viewers)

The defence is being disingenous stating this witness took 17 years to get his bachelors. He worked his way up and got his associates degree first in 2015 (7 years) then his bachelors in 2022.

That's because his evidence is so damaging to the defence.

Makes me puke the way they abuse the witnesses.

They do it because their testimonies are so damaging to their SODDI defence.
You can tell it is damaging by the amount of time they spent on him. Can tell with each one they do that with.
 
The defence is being disingenous stating this witness took 17 years to get his bachelors. He worked his way up and got his associates degree first in 2015 (7 years) then his bachelors in 2022.

That's because his evidence is so damaging to the defence.

Makes me puke the way they abuse the witnesses.

They do it because their testimonies are so damaging to their SODDI defence.
Also my Linked In profile if I ever even finished it is probably well over 20 years old.

Up to the jury what to make of it. He knew his stuff, I will say that.
 
The issue is not how long he took to "get his degree". He DOESN'T HAVE ONE!
So we're supposed to trust the testimony of a guy who LIED about his credentials and changed his report.

On cross-examination, Burgess was grilled on potential bias and “truthfulness” on his resume. Burgess listed on his resume provided to the court that he graduated from the University of Alabama with a bachelor’s degree in mathematics and business administration. He acknowledged an “error” his resume should have stated that he had a bachelor’s degree in general studies with a minor in math, but he later admitted he did not possess a bachelor’s degree.

Robert Alessi, who asked the witness about the resume posted by Aperture, which lists him as having received a bachelor’s degree in 2022 in computer science and mathematics. Under cross-examination, Burgess admitted he does not have a bachelor's degree in mathematics, and in fact the school he listed does not offer one. In fact, Burgess admitted on the stand, he has been pursuing his bachelor's degree since 2008, raising questions about his company's report that tries to place blame on Read for O'Keefe's death.
"Either you have a bachelor of science degree or you don't," Alessi said at one point, after pointing out that in a new report Burgess wrote this month he changed the time of when the alleged "collision," which had been noted in earlier reports as an "incident," happened.

Burgess ultimately acknowledged some of the documents provided by the defense contained “errors.” Later in his cross-examination, Alessi confirmed Burgess began pursuing a bachelor’s degree 17 years ago, in 2008.
“And you have not obtained it as you sit here today?” he pressed.
“That is correct,” Burgess replied. He chalked the discrepancies in the documents up to errors or misinterpretation.
How many times do these guys get by with lying on absolutely everything? How are people believing anything they say?
 
Here's a USA today link and some clarification by the prosecution. I can understand D trying to defame the witness as his testimony is very, very bad for their client. The time of the backing up of the vehicle collision and JO' s phone locking are within 3 seconds of each other.

"Prosecution seeks to clarify Burgess’ credibility

Upon redirect, Brennan sought to re-establish Burgess’ credibility, starting with his academic record. He asked Burgess if he had helped develop the information listed on his biography page on the Aperture website, which incorrectly said he had a bachelor’s degree. Burgess said he didn't assist with putting the page together and didn’t know who in the company would have done so.
Brennan presented to the jury the CV Burgess provided to the court in October 2024, which indicated he was “currently pursuing” a bachelor’s degree. Burgess said he had never misrepresented his academic history in any of the numerous trials he has testified in.
The prosecutor also gave Burgess time to explain in-depth the methodology behind the timeline he created. He asked Burgess whether an event in a Lexus SUV, such as a back-up maneuver, could take longer than the 10-second window recorded by the vehicle. Burgess said it could.
In other words, Read could have still been backing up after the car finished its 10-second recording of the move at 12:32:12 a.m. on January 30, according to Burgess’ analysis. This gives prosecutors potentially more room in their timeline to suggest that Read’s SUV struck O’Keefe. His iPhone locked for the last time during that timeframe at 12:32:09 a.m."
 
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Here's a USA today link and some clarification by the prosecution. I can understand P trying to defame the witness as his testimony is very, very bad for their client. The time of the backing up of the vehicle collision and JO' s phone locking are within 3 seconds of each other.

"Prosecution seeks to clarify Burgess’ credibility

Upon redirect, Brennan sought to re-establish Burgess’ credibility, starting with his academic record. He asked Burgess if he had helped develop the information listed on his biography page on the Aperture website, which incorrectly said he had a bachelor’s degree. Burgess said he didn't assist with putting the page together and didn’t know who in the company would have done so.
Brennan presented to the jury the CV Burgess provided to the court in October 2024, which indicated he was “currently pursuing” a bachelor’s degree. Burgess said he had never misrepresented his academic history in any of the numerous trials he has testified in.
The prosecutor also gave Burgess time to explain in-depth the methodology behind the timeline he created. He asked Burgess whether an event in a Lexus SUV, such as a back-up maneuver, could take longer than the 10-second window recorded by the vehicle. Burgess said it could.
In other words, Read could have still been backing up after the car finished its 10-second recording of the move at 12:32:12 a.m. on January 30, according to Burgess’ analysis. This gives prosecutors potentially more room in their timeline to suggest that Read’s SUV struck O’Keefe. His iPhone locked for the last time during that timeframe at 12:32:09 a.m."
You might want to change P to D in your first sentence.

Yeah, the D is very worried about this witness and regardless of all they tried to do, he KNEW his stuff and one could tell. Knew it inside AND out.
 
You might want to change P to D in your first sentence.

Yeah, the D is very worried about this witness and regardless of all they tried to do, he KNEW his stuff and one could tell. Knew it inside AND out.
Yeah, done, at least you knew what i meant.
I think I do recall you saying that. Well then it certainly doesn't have to be facts in openings so I'd call that debatable at this point if there is even any basis.
It not even debatable, it's BS.
 
In an interview clip Brennan presented in court yesterday, Read said her inadvertant vm at 12:41:35 contains background noises as she entered John's garage but since her phone connected to John's router at 12:36:39, she was already in the garage by that time and I think her first vm- the "John-I-*******-hate-you" vm- at 12:37:08 sounds like it was recorded from inside the garage.
 
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Yeah, done, at least you knew what i meant.I

It not even debatable, it's BS.
Yeah, it was clear from other remarks in your post that you meant the D.

Seems to be a juror issue this morning. And supposedly a KR fan got arrested yesterday.

Boy are there some true idiots in the various chats out there. Judge is questioning each juror and there are actuall people thinking this means the judge may be in trouble or have caused something and will be thrown off the case. DUH. Talk about how far dreaming the KR fan club goes. Juror questioning would only take place if it had to do with jurors, that's such a stupid thought I'm seeing from more than one person by far. I tell ya talk about living in some fantasy world and believing the stupidest of things.
 

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