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JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY!* (4 Viewers)

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Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events
  • April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
  • December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
  • February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
  • February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
  • June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
  • July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
  • August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
  • September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
  • September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
  • September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
  • September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
  • October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
  • October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
  • October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
  • October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
  • Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
  • November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
  • November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
  • December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
  • December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
  • December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
  • January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
  • January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee
www.eastidahonews.com

The latest timeline in the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell cases - East Idaho News

REXBURG — Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua "JJ" Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.
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www.crimewatchers.net

Chad and Lori Vallow Daybell are both serving life sentences in Idaho for murdering their families.

Keep up-to-date on this case at Crimewatchers.net!
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GrandmaBear said:
Well it's the actual amount and goes on the book and if she makes money in prison they will send small amounts of restitution to Kay and when he gets his in, probably Brandon too. It's basically a judgment on the record. There is a victim compensation fund and the way it is here is if that pays the victim, the offender has to pay back the fund, notsure if it works that way there. It was said nothing to date has been paid from that fund to Kay, etc.

This isn't unusual, it happens in many or maybe even most cases, even if the amount seems ridiculous.

I received restitution once as a victim from the offender. It came in small amounts here and there.

I do wonder what would happen if she inherited money? Can they make them pay from it or would it have to be brought to court to get it ordered? Probably the latter.
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I'm not sure if we have victim comp here. We probably do but it would be enforcable in the courts. I don't think the prisons get involved in payment of prison wages to victims, for example.
 
Tresir said:
I'm not sure if we have victim comp here. We probably do but it would be enforcable in the courts. I don't think the prisons get involved in payment of prison wages to victims, for example.
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Well someone or some agency has to turn it into a check. When I received restitution it was a check and not a personal one. If find it hard to believe the offender was paying by choice but he could have been I guess. Unfortunately I don't recall who cut the check, if it was the prison or what entity.

OF course Kay and Brandon will probably never see enough to pay them in full. It's the principle of the thing I guess and it also ensures I would say that their credit is ruined as there are judgments.

It is a normal part of a case.

Colby and others could have applied to I am sure. I know he had mileage and a hotel room at times. He apparently did not nor did anyone else.
 
RoundPeg said:
Is anyone suing Chad for restitution?
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Not that I ever heard of, maybe no one asked for a restitution hearing which would be prosecutors or maybe it is because he is on death row, not sure that that would matter though. He probably could not work in the prison... Different states too or maybe the vic compensation fund paid out, hard to say.

Just realized I don't think Lori had one in ID either, only in AZ and Chad was not charged in those cases. So it probably has something to do with ID or the prosecutors not bringing it up.
 
Although this says Kohberger, 90 percent of it is Kay Woodcock. It is a good interview, different than others as it is about restitution and other things now that the trials are over.

Some things I never knew. Any commissary money prisoners get, a percentage is taken from it for restitution (also for fines, etc.). I love that, I wish it were more--ID is 20 percent and AZ Kay thinks is 30 percent. It's not like it will be more than peanuts to victim families BUT it makes it harder for the prisoner and they probably don't like it one bit.
Something that maddens me is that Kay found out the ID prison has a HAIR salon!! That's just NOT right. It's outrageous. As she said, who do they need to look good for?!

So Lori's locks to me were poorly bleached and styled in my opinion while in jail but now she will have access to a salon in prison.

 
GrandmaBear said:
Although this says Kohberger, 90 percent of it is Kay Woodcock. It is a good interview, different than others as it is about restitution and other things now that the trials are over.

Some things I never knew. Any commissary money prisoners get, a percentage is taken from it for restitution (also for fines, etc.). I love that, I wish it were more--ID is 20 percent and AZ Kay thinks is 30 percent. It's not like it will be more than peanuts to victim families BUT it makes it harder for the prisoner and they probably don't like it one bit.
Something that maddens me is that Kay found out the ID prison has a HAIR salon!! That's just NOT right. It's outrageous. As she said, who do they need to look good for?!

So Lori's locks to me were poorly bleached and styled in my opinion while in jail but now she will have access to a salon in prison.

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I'm not sure about Idaho specifically, but most states have pretty limited hair services. If it's okay for men's prisons to offer barber services, it should be the same for women. I'm not sure prison stylists can stock chemicals.

I think you didn't think this through lol.
 
RoundPeg said:
I'm not sure about Idaho specifically, but most states have pretty limited hair services. If it's okay for men's prisons to offer barber services, it should be the same for women. I'm not sure prison stylists can stock chemicals.

I think you didn't think this through lol.
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If it's for cuts, etc. they want, I don't think the men's should have them either. If it's just for shaving it off, I see that differently than a woman getting a color and a curl, etc.

Yeah, I don't know what they carry but if it is secured say in a different part of the prison and the salon is as well, I think it possible. I mean they have kitchens and wood shops and such too.

It was Kay who said it, she didn't have a lot of detail, just that she knew they had such and that Lori would be getting better hair styling now and that she felt it wrong.

I also saw on Pretty Lies and Alibis (she looks up the prison info, etc.) that they can get what is takeout/delivery for food. Supposedly it can take weeks after ordering but still, they can if they can pay for it. I think that's wrong too.
 
GrandmaBear said:
If it's for cuts, etc. they want, I don't think the men's should have them either. If it's just for shaving it off, I see that differently than a woman getting a color and a curl, etc.

Yeah, I don't know what they carry but if it is secured say in a different part of the prison and the salon is as well, I think it possible. I mean they have kitchens and wood shops and such too.

It was Kay who said it, she didn't have a lot of detail, just that she knew they had such and that Lori would be getting better hair styling now and that she felt it wrong.

I also saw on Pretty Lies and Alibis (she looks up the prison info, etc.) that they can get what is takeout/delivery for food. Supposedly it can take weeks after ordering but still, they can if they can pay for it. I think that's wrong too.
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I stand corrected. Inmates can buy hair dye from the commissary. I did not know that. That info from an interview with the warden at Pocatello.
 
RoundPeg said:
I stand corrected. Inmates can buy hair dye from the commissary. I did not know that. That info from an interview with the warden at Pocatello.
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I'm not surprised. They can buy makeup as well. As you said though, hair dye has chemicals.
 
RoundPeg said:
It was from Nate's Pocatello tour and interview. I thought it had been linked previously. I'll see if I can find it.

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I thought I watched that. I don't recall the hair salon, I feel I only heard of that in Kay's recent interview with Brian Entin when she talked of it. Not sure where she got her info though.
 
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