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Nope. I have heard it come up around other cases though. The Kelsey Berreth case in Colorado. I wouldn't say it was rampant and probably did not end up related to it as far as we know in any way but early on before any arrests, in different theories, people from that area said in that area there are satanic symbols up in certain outdoor areas, etc. and other evidence of such things. It is so outside my normal thought process, such never occurs to me probably because I never have lived around it or known it to go on around me...
When idiots run out of ideas satanism is their last resort. Just like the conspiracy theorists. Just something for the gullible.
True, but this place had stories of it like people swearing they found burned animal bones, etc. It wasn't an excuse for any crimes being committed.When idiots run out of ideas satanism is their last resort. Just like the conspiracy theorists. Just something for the gullible.
I agree with you. What's the use of $100K if you're behind bars?The combined total of $100,000 doesn't seem to be motivating anyone who may have information. I highly doubt anyone but two people know exactly where these boys are to be able to come forward, unfortunately.
The $25,000 reward committed by California City for information in finding brothers Orson West, three, and Orrin West, four, was extended to Jan. 26.Cal City extends reward for info on missing boys
Updated with correction: $30,000 has been put up by the extended family of the boys' adopted parents. Not by Trezell and Jacqueline West.www.avpress.com
The City Council voted to approve the extension during Tuesday’s City Council meeting to avoid the reward from expiring later that night as approved by the Council during a Jan. 7 special meeting.
Councilmember Kelly Kulikoff suggested again to raise the reward from the city to $50,000, citing $25,000 for each of the two boys.
Councilmember Jim Creighton disagreed and said $50,000 is excessively high.
“First of all, the city doesn’t have that kind of money to pay out $50,000 on a whim,” Creighton said. “Granted it may never get paid out, but let’s say tomorrow it comes up, where’s the city going to pull $50,000?”
The Council also wanted to keep the reward in line with others committed by previous councils.
If anyone other than the two people know, it would be family most likely in the opinions of some.The combined total of $100,000 doesn't seem to be motivating anyone who may have information. I highly doubt anyone but two people know exactly where these boys are to be able to come forward, unfortunately.
The $25,000 reward committed by California City for information in finding brothers Orson West, three, and Orrin West, four, was extended to Jan. 26.Cal City extends reward for info on missing boys
Updated with correction: $30,000 has been put up by the extended family of the boys' adopted parents. Not by Trezell and Jacqueline West.
The City Council voted to approve the extension during Tuesday’s City Council meeting to avoid the reward from expiring later that night as approved by the Council during a Jan. 7 special meeting.
Councilmember Kelly Kulikoff suggested again to raise the reward from the city to $50,000, citing $25,000 for each of the two boys.
Councilmember Jim Creighton disagreed and said $50,000 is excessively high.
“First of all, the city doesn’t have that kind of money to pay out $50,000 on a whim,” Creighton said. “Granted it may never get paid out, but let’s say tomorrow it comes up, where’s the city going to pull $50,000?”
The Council also wanted to keep the reward in line with others committed by previous councils.
It is VERY unusual! This is taxpayer money. Most cities don't have a lot of money to operate, unless they are in a special circumstance, like a popular tourist town receiving transit tax revenue. I have to wonder what revenue California City receives to support this decision? We could look at the public city budget and found out.
Yes, the one board member above apparently had a bit of an issue with it. I try not to get this way, who would knock a reward or a city caring about the boys? Certainly not me. No one seems to be questioning it (questioning all else but not that) but I find it VERY odd. For one thing, they are not the only missing children or people apparently from this city so how do you explain a reward for one case and not another? I would not even think they would walk down that road...In less than a minute I found an article where they described their last budget proceeding to be "bare bones". Now I'm really curious!
Cal City council hears 'bare bones' budget
CALIFORNIA CITY -- Budget discussions continued June 23 as a few department heads presented updates on a reduced budget to the city council. The Tuesday night version reflects cuts madewww.desertnews.com
BBM What you wrote here would be the first concern. If you use the public's funds to benefit one citizen, you better be ready to do the same for others!
That actually is the big red flag of it to me as well. Generally concerns of liability and fairness trump everything... I can think of another case that was not a reward but something the county did re the victim that they did not ever do for other victims and I thought the same... How can you show you care about one and not all of the others...? Again, it was not a reward but something that they only ever did for one...
According to that article from last year, they were cutting programs that benefit the community. How do you explain that, too? But, I can understand that they didn't want to appear as though they have no compassion toward Orrin and Orson. What a spot to be in as a councilor.
I can look at it that way and understand and especially maybe when it got attention and hit the internet, etc. they knew attention was on the case (yet MSM is still not covering it much if at all (even locally...) But it still comes down to explaining it when every case the same reward or any reward is not done, etc. I just do not think most would ever put themselves in such a position and am guessing no lawyer to a board would advise it. And even then would you not do say $5,000 or $10,000 if you are going to go there at all? If you are a city as you said cutting programs, etc.? I don't know. Hard to gripe about support/a reward because it is a good thing but I can't help but find it strange.
I have read more than once privately owned, unsure if true. Not to be a pain but I looked at this and could not find an easy way to go to page 21, etc. I went to one link for most current budget and it wanted to take 15 minutes to download and I was not even sure it was the right spot so I canceled it. Don't worry about it or do it for me, I just have not found the way to view with a major download. Not great in all tech areas...Here's their budget:
Did you hear their police department is privately owned? Police department budget starts on page 21.
I have read more than once privately owned, unsure if true. Not to be a pain but I looked at this and could not find an easy way to go to page 21, etc. I went to one link for most current budget and it wanted to take 15 minutes to download and I was not even sure it was the right spot so I canceled it. Don't worry about it or do it for me, I just have not found the way to view with a major download. Not great in all tech areas...
Welcome @RoundPeg !!! Thanks for joining in and for your contributions already!Here's their budget:
Did you hear their police department is privately owned? Police department budget starts on page 21.
You didn't have to do that but boy I DO appreciate it! Thank you.
Their councilors get PAID? I need to move. hahaHere's their budget:
Did you hear their police department is privately owned? Police department budget starts on page 21.
