KIMBERLY HYDE: Utah woman murdered in October 2024 - Man charged claims setup (1 Viewer)

This is fairly long, about an hour. I saw it come up yesterday but wasn't compelled to watch it. Now today, it started for me somehow by me not starting it. So I stopped it but was on the page and started to skim the chat, just to see if worth a watch, etc. The chat is FULL of people saying police have the wrong guy and that her husband framed this guy. That the police department is corrupt and inept, etc. TONS of people saying such. Well, now I have to watch it to see what I think of him. This guy fled the country but saw an interview with Nate by two people who knew Kimberly, I think relatives, and wanted to give his side to Nate...

Not sure what I think yet, I haven't watched it, just starting to. Seems to be another LDS case... I do think I watched the family members on with Nate but it was a time ago. @Kimster Have you watched this? I know you watch most of Nate's too so just asking...?

 

[Tresir]

He described her injuries and how she was bound to his wife and son. Here's the thing, hub was at work and probably verified and then on a bus. Henry's on camera going to house. Kim gets home. Husband is not there. No other stranger is either, Henry is.

So no matter how we look at this Henry killed her. The husband wasn't home to do so and Kim hadn't been until such a time either.

At FIRST I thought or wasn't sure Henry's wife and Kim were really out together. Now knowing they were, no one killed her earlier and could not have been her husband.

So I think it's pretty clear cut. The only question here really is if Mike put him up to it and was in on it. Not framed him as he claims but put him up to it. Offered him something. Hired him even.

I am thinking there is a third unknown person who the husband was expecting to come to the house. I don't see that if it was Henry, why would he be getting these instructions on his phone and why wouldn't he dispose of the body properly?

 

[GrandmaBear]

I am thinking there is a third unknown person who the husband was expecting to come to the house. I don't see that if it was Henry, why would he be getting these instructions on his phone and why wouldn't he dispose of the body properly?

There are cameras picking up Henry so where is there a third person on those cameras? I don't think so.

He showed only unknown calls didn't he? We never heard any instructions.

He didn't have time to dispose of her imo. His wife was now home and would wonder where he was (IF he was in hiding from them at Kim's), that Mike would be coming home, etc. I think he got her into the car and left and figured if he dumped her in Vernal and she was found, they'd think someone killed her in Vernal or something on that order. He sent the text from Kim's phone saying she had to go back to Vernal so that would then cover why she was there and left again in her car. Makes perfect sense to me. Like many criminals, he came up with this in a rush of time probably. He couldn't leave her in the home as he is on camera going into the home. The garage probably had no camera nor inside anywhere so he got her into the garage and into her car and used her car hoping it would look like Kim left in her car, fitting the message he sent on her phone.

 

[Regina]

I think it likely Henry was given the code and he instantly realized the access he had when he could be sure they weren't at home. And none were at home most likely when he entered and he knew that.

Yeah, I didn't feel the families were overly close, the DIL, etc. and Mike and Kim. I think she had just seen her recently but didn't sound like overall she saw them a lot or something on that order...

I'm even more sure now that Henry is guilty. Mike remains a question but I think he may be just odd and not the most likable, not sure.

It still could work that both men were involved in this. I am fairly certain about Henry though as I have been or was fairly quickly and I just get more sure about it constantly.

I think you're remembering that it was the former sister-in-law who hadn't been close.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I think you're remembering that it was the former sister-in-law who hadn't been close.

Maybe but I kind of had the impression that neither were really close but yes DIL was more of course and they came I think to her kids games and stuff right? I think they'd recently been over there for dinner too...?

 

[GrandmaBear]

You know I'm hoping now that Henry comes back to Nate or the relatives so we can keep trying to figure this out lol. We aren't going to learn more from LE most likely as they need to get him back here and get court proceedings going before likely anything will come out from that side of things.

I just don't think the relatives know much BUT I'd like Nate to ask Henry some more questions than he did (if Henry allows of course lol).

 

[Regina]

Maybe but I kind of had the impression that neither were really close but yes DIL was more of course and they came I think to her kids games and stuff right? I think they'd recently been over there for dinner too...?

Yeah, the dinner was the night before Kim was missing and the day she was missing, both Mike and Kim were expected to be at the granddaughter's volleyball game.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Yeah, the dinner was the night before Kim was missing and the day she was missing, both Mike and Kim were expected to be at the granddaughter's volleyball game.

yep, that's what I thought, she knew they were coming to one of her kid's games. And the dinner.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I finally got around to looking up if we have an expedition treaty with the Philippines and we DO. I then looked up if a Philippine national could be extradited and it said yes, they will be extradited as well. I checked this as first, I suspect he is a national as I think he said he had assets yet there and I think he fled "home"; second, because some countries won't extradite their own.

Soooo that leaves me wondering if the extradition process is underway...

It does say this so I suspect it can take awhile possibly...

The process requires a formal request through diplomatic channels, and the individual must be afforded due process in Philippine courts

And didn't he say he had an atty there he had talked to? I think so, but unsure. Maybe he spoke now as he knows extradition is underway and that he maybe has been notified by the Philippine courts or even had to appear there and so got an attorney...?

I'd like to know and see them get him back here so trial process can get underway and we can maybe learn some more.

 

[Tresir]

There are cameras picking up Henry so where is there a third person on those cameras? I don't think so.

He showed only unknown calls didn't he? We never heard any instructions.

He didn't have time to dispose of her imo. His wife was now home and would wonder where he was (IF he was in hiding from them at Kim's), that Mike would be coming home, etc. I think he got her into the car and left and figured if he dumped her in Vernal and she was found, they'd think 5 killed her in Vernal or something on that order. He sent the text from Kim's phone saying she had to go back to Vernal so that would then cover why she was there and left again in her car. Makes perfect sense to me. Like many criminals, he came up with this in a rush of time probably. He couldn't leave her in the home as he is on camera going into the home. The garage probably had no camera nor inside anywhere so he got her into the garage and into her car and used her car hoping it would look like Kim left in her car, fitting the message he sent on her phone.

He mentioned in his interview about talking to hubby on camera. It was his own camera I think. So he drives miles in her car and is clearly on traffic cameras. Why would he do that? What was his motive to kill her?

 

[GrandmaBear]

He mentioned in his interview about talking to hubby on camera. It was his own camera I think. So he drives miles in her car and is clearly on traffic cameras. Why would he do that? What was his motive to kill her?

Because they had been in Vernal and perhaps he wanted her found but not to be blamed. I don't know. He texted on her phone to say she had to head back to Vernal and then he took the car to Vernal. Maybe also in a town so that his son could easily find him to pick him up and he could easy walk a few blocks or more away from the car and not even be noticed. Not sure. We don't have enough info.

I don't think he had a lot of time or figured he didn't, and knew then the home would be looked at and that he'd left evidence probably. Maybe he thought if found in the car away from the home, the home would not be searched or processed.

Who knows how some criminals think and again, we just don't know enough here.

He is seen on camera with the husband when??

 

[Tresir]

Because they had been in Vernal and perhaps he wanted her found but not to be blamed. I don't know. He texted on her phone to say she had to head back to Vernal and then he took the car to Vernal. Maybe also in a town so that his son could easily find him to pick him up and he could easy walk a few blocks or more away from the car and not even be noticed. Not sure. We don't have enough info.

I don't think he had a lot of time or figured he didn't, and knew then the home would be looked at and that he'd left evidence probably. Maybe he thought if found in the car away from the home, the home would not be searched or processed.

Who knows how some criminals think and again, we just don't know enough here.

He is seen on camera with the husband when??

When he talked to him about his flight and the hub offered to pay for it. He also has the screenshots of the husband's calls to him.

 

[GrandmaBear]

When he talked to him about his flight and the hub offered to pay for it. He also has the screenshots of the husband's calls to him.

Oh you mean after the fact, yeah. I thought you meant that the husband was home before when it was said he wasn't, like at the time of the murder.

What's odd about that, he probably wondered where Kimberly's car and Kimberly were and since he was the last one to supposed to be picking up the women with Kim's car, that makes sense. Too bad there's probably no sound on the video or wouldn't he have said so? And he never showed almost any of the evidence he claimed to have either.

 

[Tresir]

Oh you mean after the fact, yeah. I thought you meant that the husband was home before when it was said he wasn't, like at the time of the murder.

What's odd about that, he probably wondered where Kimberly's car and Kimberly were and since he was the last one to supposed to be picking up the women with Kim's car, that makes sense. Too bad there's probably no sound on the video or wouldn't he have said so? And he never showed almost any of the evidence he claimed to have either.

The point is hub would know where Kim was wouldn't he? Either still shopping, returned and gone out again or disposed of by Henry? Those are the only options.

Not sure if the recording has sound but maybe a lipreader could determine what was discussed if the recording is good enough.

 

[GrandmaBear]

The point is hub would know where Kim was wouldn't he? Either still shopping, returned and gone out again or disposed of by Henry? Those are the only options.

Not sure if the recording has sound but maybe a lipreader could determine what was discussed if the recording is good enough.

Well if Henry's story is at all true, no, the husband would think Henry had the car and picked them up so it would be natural to go ask Henry if he knew where Kim and the car were, plus she'd been with Henry's wife. But I don't believe Henry's story anyhow.

How did Henry save this video, his sole goal was leaving the country? Of course though he'd know he and Kim's hub showed on video though if so. In fact he spent a lot of time explaining all of the things he knew they'd find on video, etc. and crafted his story to fit such imo.

My cameras had sound and were cheap but doesn't mean it picks it up if you are a few feet away and the camera is up on the house and talking in a normal voice or if there is wind, traffic, etc. One cannot count on it for sure. Henry would be aware too of the cameras and of what he did.

The fact remains he was in their home and no one else was and the husband wasn't home. I don't see how Henry can be removed here whatsoever as Kim's killer.

Also why would Mike offer to pay for Henry's ticket if he wants him framed and arrested? With Henry gone, the focus and person left to talk to would be Mike, why would Mike want that? If he did it?

It only works if Henry did this or Henry did it but Mike put him up to it and there seems to be no evidence of that.

Henry's story really doesn't make any sense.

 

[Tresir]

Well if Henry's story is at all true, no, the husband would think Henry had the car and picked them up so it would be natural to go ask Henry if he knew where Kim and the car were, plus she'd been with Henry's wife. But I don't believe Henry's story anyhow.

How did Henry save this video, his sole goal was leaving the country? Of course though he'd know he and Kim's hub showed on video though if so. In fact he spent a lot of time explaining all of the things he knew they'd find on video, etc. and crafted his story to fit such imo.

My cameras had sound and were cheap but doesn't mean it picks it up if you are a few feet away and the camera is up on the house and talking in a normal voice or if there is wind, traffic, etc. One cannot count on it for sure. Henry would be aware too of the cameras and of what he did.

The fact remains he was in their home and no one else was and the husband wasn't home. I don't see how Henry can be removed here whatsoever as Kim's killer.

Also why would Mike offer to pay for Henry's ticket if he wants him framed and arrested? With Henry gone, the focus and person left to talk to would be Mike, why would Mike want that? If he did it?

It only works if Henry did this or Henry did it but Mike put him up to it and there seems to be no evidence of that.

Henry's story really doesn't make any sense.

So you think he manufactured the Jaz Utah screenshots? And driving the vehicle not knowing there was a dead body in it? Hopefully, they will be able to determine a TOD as she was found pretty quickly.

At present I believe his story because hub had the motive, a girlfriend and life insurance.

 

[GrandmaBear]

So you think he manufactured the Jaz Utah screenshots? And driving the vehicle not knowing there was a dead body in it? Hopefully, they will be able to determine a TOD as she was found pretty quickly.

At present I believe his story because hub had the motive, a girlfriend and life insurance.

I'd have to look again but pretty sure he said calls were from an unknown caller. It didn't say that name on the calls did it? Does he have any voicemails from them? Because I think he said he ignored the first call or two thinking it was a sales call. All I've seen is a phone screen that I thought showed unknown caller and I can't even recall where that came from. LE has not verified any of these things or that the number belongs to a Jaz Utah that I know of. Almost none of what he claims is verified and LE says some of his statements contradict evidence they have. I doubt somehow that that is a lie by LE. I don't think they'd have made a statement if he was not putting such falsehoods out there honestly.

I think she was found the next day if I recall.

The part about him driving the vehicle not knowing there was a dead body yeah is pretty hard to believe. TOD will likely matter some as he claimed she was breathing and I'm not even sure I believe that. I don't think he'd have left her there alive unless she never saw him and couldn't tell who killed her...

I get you feel differently but I don't believe him because all he has is a story. NOTHING is corroborated at this point whereas the husband has an alibii and has not been charged. How is it you think the hub killed her without Henry doing it? He wasn't there, the cameras would have picked him up.

We don't see the motive in many cases but he was in their home for some reason.

I believe most LDS have life insurance. Don't ask me why but they seem to and selling life insurance is a pretty common job amongst them too. There's no evidence I've seen that he had a girlfriend before Kim died.

Lol, we don't agree on this one at all but I guess it remains to be seen. Neither of us can be 100% but I'm pretty high up there and I'm allowing for two possibilities but have pretty much excluded Mike as doing the physical killing. That had to be Henry.

 

[Regina]

Re TOD, I want to point out that given the kidnapping charge, LE believes that Kim was alive when she was taken away from her home...

 

[Tresir]

I'd have to look again but pretty sure he said calls were from an unknown caller. It didn't say that name on the calls did it? Does he have any voicemails from them? Because I think he said he ignored the first call or two thinking it was a sales call. All I've seen is a phone screen that I thought showed unknown caller and I can't even recall where that came from. LE has not verified any of these things or that the number belongs to a Jaz Utah that I know of. Almost none of what he claims is verified and LE says some of his statements contradict evidence they have. I doubt somehow that that is a lie by LE. I don't think they'd have made a statement if he was not putting such falsehoods out there honestly.

I think she was found the next day if I recall.

The part about him driving the vehicle not knowing there was a dead body yeah is pretty hard to believe. TOD will likely matter some as he claimed she was breathing and I'm not even sure I believe that. I don't think he'd have left her there alive unless she never saw him and couldn't tell who killed her...

I get you feel differently but I don't believe him because all he has is a story. NOTHING is corroborated at this point whereas the husband has an alibii and has not been charged. How is it you think the hub killed her without Henry doing it? He wasn't there, the cameras would have picked him up.

We don't see the motive in many cases but he was in their home for some reason.

I believe most LDS have life insurance. Don't ask me why but they seem to and selling life insurance is a pretty common job amongst them too. There's no evidence I've seen that he had a girlfriend before Kim died.

Lol, we don't agree on this one at all but I guess it remains to be seen. Neither of us can be 100% but I'm pretty high up there and I'm allowing for two possibilities but have pretty much excluded Mike as doing the physical killing. That had to be Henry.

The screenshot of the calls is upthread but not good enough for me to read. I am only on a phone screen so you may have more luck. If Henry is on cam at the gym and we see Kim returns home before he gets back, that could help with the timeline. The time that hub got back is needed too.

This is an extract from the EIN news article upthread, with the screenshot that Henry did. This can be enlarged and is then readable. 18 missed calls in 48 minutes.



Resuera says he panicked and didn’t know what to do. He says he called Michael several times, but the calls didn’t go through. He provided screenshots to EastIdahoNews.com showing multiple missed calls with Jaz Utah between 3:30 and 4:18 p.m.

A screenshot showing missed calls from Jaz Utah. | Courtesy Henry Resuera
“I immediately thought of my wife because I remembered she was with Kim that day. I called her, but she didn’t pick up. I called my son and asked where his mom was, and he told me she was in the kitchen cooking,” Resuera recalls. “I told my son to meet me in Naples City. At that moment, I didn’t know what to do. I continued driving to Constitution Park. When I was in front of Roosevelt Junior High, I fully stopped the car on the side of the road because I couldn’t take the smell of the blood, and I began to vomit.”

 

[GrandmaBear]

Re TOD, I want to point out that given the kidnapping charge, LE believes that Kim was alive when she was taken away from her home...

True. The only other way would be if he restrained her in the home in any way but that seems doubtful. They probably do put her as alive in the car then and must know the time of death or approximately then.

 

[GrandmaBear]

The screenshot of the calls is upthread but not good enough for me to read. I am only on a phone screen so you may have more luck. If Henry is on cam at the gym and we see Kim returns home before he gets back, that could help with the timeline. The time that hub got back is needed too.

This is an extract from the EIN news article upthread, with the screenshot that Henry did. This can be enlarged and is then readable. 18 missed calls in 48 minutes.



Resuera says he panicked and didn’t know what to do. He says he called Michael several times, but the calls didn’t go through. He provided screenshots to EastIdahoNews.com showing multiple missed calls with Jaz Utah between 3:30 and 4:18 p.m.

A screenshot showing missed calls from Jaz Utah. | Courtesy Henry Resuera
“I immediately thought of my wife because I remembered she was with Kim that day. I called her, but she didn’t pick up. I called my son and asked where his mom was, and he told me she was in the kitchen cooking,” Resuera recalls. “I told my son to meet me in Naples City. At that moment, I didn’t know what to do. I continued driving to Constitution Park. When I was in front of Roosevelt Junior High, I fully stopped the car on the side of the road because I couldn’t take the smell of the blood, and I began to vomit.”

This is odd to me. I thuoght first of all that he said they were unknown calls but I do recall Jaz Utah being mentioned so maybe he meant he didn't know who was calling?

My phone doesn't look like this, did he generate a report on a computer or something of his account?

Also he finally picked up and talked to Mike, isn't that what he said and at that point he knew the person calling on the unknown number was Mike so where are the received calls? These are all missed calls. My phone also doesn't say missed "audio" calls, it says missed calls so that's also odd to me. Maybe he had an Ipad or something, I'm not familiar with them, I use Android. Also IF he doesn't have her as a contact in his phone, her name will NOT show up.

I had a call like that this morning, only the numbe showed as the name and number were not in my phone. I only answered because the timing was right for it to be my driver.

It's just odd to me. Does that post have Henry's narrative he prepared in it? I was going to look to see if Nate linked it after his video but I forgot. Otherwise, maybe I will go look for it so we can refer to it on here if I can figure out how to link it or copy it.