ANNA KEPNER: Teen found dead on Carnival cruise ship *ARREST!* (1 Viewer)

Indications are it may be a homicide.

 

[Kimster]

Dad would not agree to passports for his kids but the cruise did not need passports as it turned out. Dad did though after her murder sign an agreement that the teen son (alleged perp) stay with a relative of mom's. So argument is that he was not around the other child, no risky situation in the home to cause emergency custody to go to the dad. Of the 9 year old girl. L & C is showing quite a bit of her on the stand at the custody hearing.

What I don’t understand is that if the accused isn’t staying with his mother, why isn’t he staying with his father? Why is he staying with some other relative?

 

[Kimster]

Teen is on a couple of meds for ADHD that mom hung onto on the cruise. Takes a morning pill of one med and an evening pill for insomnia of another pill.

Mom admitted to drinking three drinks on the entirety of the cruise (herself), all on separate days and none on this day.

Oh, OK. I didn’t know that Mom had said that she hadn’t been drinking. But that doesn’t mean she’s not lying.

 

[Kimster]

Is the lack of meds why he flipped out and killed Anna? It certainly could not have helped, especially with the "parents" in bed and asleep by 7.30 pm. WhoTF leaves there kids to their own devices on a cruise ship or any holiday?

If he had a mental health issue that was so bad that he murdered people if he doesn’t take medication, then he should be in an institution. And it’s just another reason why he shouldn’t have been alone with other people! All these excuses are really
ticking me off.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Makes me wonder if she took his sleep meds or had her own that she took.

I wonder too, that's pretty darned early to zonk out for an adult if she wasn't drinking on the ship. Maybe time changes and early rising and the kids wore them out or a big meal? I will say I was surprised they or at least she was back in the room and asleep by that hour. I figured the folks maybe stayed out... It's probably the truth as she was on the stand and ship cameras, staff, other guests could contradict her if not true. What about the 9 year olds? I mean you put them to sleep at 8? I will say they could be worn out if a long day and in the water, etc.

She also could not have known she was asleep before him until after what happened since they never checked on the kids. You go on a cruise and you don't supervise the kids or even check to see that they are in their room, etc. SMFH.

I've tried to understand it and give some benefit of the doubt but I just can't. Some things I could maybe, but not with this. A bonding trip/tradition they were starting for their blended family. Should have been girls' room and boys' room or each parent with their own kids and ideally there too with adjoining rooms but without exit for the kids out of their own. You only sleep and shower in the rooms generally so all bonding time can be on the days out on board or off the ship. You don't bond in the shower and in bed FFS (I don't think I've ever used that one, forgive my French).

Could go on about her showering, putting on makeup, getting dressed, sleeping in the same room with a boy that's already obsessed with her allegedly too. Gee what GREAT idea. NOT.

 

[Tresir]

She's his mom. Babysitter, I believe, was the 2nd wife. This is his 3rd wife. That's my understanding of the dynamics.

So Anna is the daughter of the first wife and the mom of the 16 year old is the third wife? So Anna's dad is just his stepfather right? So no biological connection to Anna at all. I think i have got it now LOL.
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[GrandmaBear]

She evidently didn't care much for her son, either. Possibly the younger ones, but not him or she would have checked on them.

The only other one she has younger is a 9 year old girl. He is her youngest son. There is one older.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I don't think she was his mother was she? She is the third wife the 15 year old babysitter of Anna isnt she. I may be confused but not sure.

No, you have it right.

 

[GrandmaBear]

She's his mom. Babysitter, I believe, was the 2nd wife. This is his 3rd wife. That's my understanding of the dynamics.

I take it to mean of the younger boy. She isn't his mother.

 

[GrandmaBear]

If that was the case, he most likely would not have been on the cruise as he would have had no parent on it.

What?? Every kid on the cruise had a parent on the ship.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I watched Brian Entin’s video on this case last night and when he mentioned they said that he didn’t get his meds, that just ticked me off. That is no excuse for murdering his stepsister. Not at all.

Yeah and she brought up his ADHD. Clear it will be used as an excuse imo. Entin's popped up for me some time after the others but I never got to that one. I probably will still watch it if it comes up again.

 

[GrandmaBear]

They said the kids weren’t drinking, that doesn’t mean the parents weren’t either.

She said she had two pina coladas and one blue something, each on different days and none this day. I tend to think it's the truth but doesn't mean they were not drinking in their stateroom or adding it to a cup before leaving the room. I had a friend on a cruise (never been myself) that remarked on the price of the drinks and it was extreme and that was years ago. This couple didn't pay for a third stateroom so they may not have been spending a lot on drinks. But COULD have been doing so in the room. I tend to think the ones purchased is likely the truth as she knows there are cameras, bartenders, etc...

 

[GrandmaBear]

What I don’t understand is that if the accused isn’t staying with his mother, why isn’t he staying with his father? Why is he staying with some other relative?

No idea but the dad signed off on it apparently. I imagine in the haste of finding out about this, for her part, she probably WAS thinking and didn't want him in dad's control but knew he needed to be with someone so she did such. Or it may have had to do with school? Not sure his mom and dad are in the same district, etc.

Doesn't really matter now though, the school "kicked" the kids out.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Oh, OK. I didn’t know that Mom had said that she hadn’t been drinking. But that doesn’t mean she’s not lying.

Answered in one above. I know what you mean though.

 

[GrandmaBear]

If he had a mental health issue that was so bad that he murdered people if he doesn’t take medication, then he should be in an institution. And it’s just another reason why he shouldn’t have been alone with other people! All these excuses are really
ticking me off.

I suspect she's made or used excuses for him his entire life.

 

[Tresir]

If he had a mental health issue that was so bad that he murdered people if he doesn’t take medication, then he should be in an institution. And it’s just another reason why he shouldn’t have been alone with other people! All these excuses are really
ticking me off.

Well there's at least five things- 1) he murdered someone 2) missed some medication and 3) can't remember anything 4) can't now be left alone and 5) he was allowed to be alone a lot on the trip - so if that all doesn't add up to a MH problem then i don't know what does.

I only had 3 things at first then realised these last two as well.

 

[Tresir]

She said she had two pina coladas and one blue something, each on different days and none this day. I tend to think it's the truth but doesn't mean they were not drinking in their stateroom or adding it to a cup before leaving the room. I had a friend on a cruise (never been myself) that remarked on the price of the drinks and it was extreme and that was years ago. This couple didn't pay for a third stateroom so they may not have been spending a lot on drinks. But COULD have been doing so in the room. I tend to think the ones purchased is likely the truth as she knows there are cameras, bartenders, etc...

I would bet they had alcohol in the cabin if it wasn't free on the cruise.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Well there's at least five things- 1) he murdered someone 2) missed some medication and 3) can't remember anything 4) can't now be left alone and 5) he was allowed to be alone a lot on the trip - so if that all doesn't add up to a MH problem then i don't know what does.

I only had 3 things at first then realised these last two as well.

I think those things explain that the parents definitely should have had control of and supervision of him. I don't think it excuses what he did. Everything is a MH problem these days but most don't rise to the level of not guilty due to that problem. They don't rise to insanity for instance. Thank goodness because every single defendant it seems sometimes and D atty tries to say it is a reason/excuse.

 

[Tresir]

So this couple were asleep in their room with the two youngest kids by 7.30 pm. Grandparents were in the casino. The other 3 were doing precisely whatever they wanted. Recipe for disaster. I hope the parents get charged TBH.

 

[Tresir]

I think those things explain that the parents definitely should have had control of and supervision of him. I don't think it excuses what he did. Everything is a MH problem these days but most don't rise to the level of not guilty due to that problem. They don't rise to insanity for instance. Thank goodness because every single defendant it seems sometimes and D atty tries to say it is a reason/excuse.

Is a 16 year old legally responsible? I think that will come into it. And this is at sea where laws are different.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I would bet they had alcohol in the cabin if it wasn't free on the cruise.

Yeah, there are drink packages on most now but think they are pricey. And it's an extra. I too am guessing alcohol in the room/rooms. Some relative of Shauntel (stepmom) said she''d let the kids drink before. She wasn't on the cruise but knew of another time she did. I think Shauntel only is admitting to what she knows can be proven, that she had three drinks over the course of the cruise when out and about. That she was served. They didn't ask her about Anna's dad and he did not take the stand.