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University of Idaho Murders: State of Idaho vs. BK *GUILTY PLEA* (26 Viewers)

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Got my Masters degree from here. :(

Killer who stabbed 4 Idaho students to death still at large​

The killer — or killers — who stabbed four University of Idaho students to death remained at large Tuesday, prompting many students to leave the campus in the idyllic small town despite police assurances that there was no imminent risk to the community.

So many students had left the scenic tree-lined campus in Moscow, Idaho, by Tuesday that university officials said a candlelight vigil scheduled for the next day would instead be held after the Thanksgiving break.

The students, all close friends, were found dead in an off-campus rental home around noon on Sunday, and officials said they likely were killed several hours earlier. Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabbutt told the Spokane, Washington-based television station KXLY that her preliminary investigation showed the students were stabbed to death. There is no indication that substance use was involved in the deaths, Mabbutt said.
 
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Ranch said:
The plea hearing is set for tomorrow. Will it only be BK changing his plea from not guilty to guilty? Will anything else be addressed or will that have to wait for his sentencing?
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I think for the judge to accept the deal and move towards sentencing, BK will have to answer to things as to why,, how, etc.
 
GrandmaBear said:
Ethan's family's reaction after the deaths was just the opposite of Goncalez. They seemed to let go almost too easily and go towards positive things. Nothing wrong with that but was hard to understand, by some, self included.
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I wonder if they just wanted to grieve more privately. Do you think the attention from this case could have been overwhelming and complicated the grief process? I'm pretty private with my grief.
 
RoundPeg said:
I wonder if they just wanted to grieve more privately. Do you think the attention from this case could have been overwhelming and complicated the grief process? I'm pretty private with my grief.
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Possible but they just kind of went immediately to going to go positive and I think mom wrote a book didn't she? Been while ago so THINK so but not positive. A book isn't exactly private.

I also am pretty private and in fact after most of our deaths, I holed up. The murder was different though. And we had to stay unnaturally silent which was quite hard.

Everyone is different I guess, but I couldn't do it. Just saying they are kind of opposite extremes as well and each is extreme one way imo. I'm not judging, was just hard for me to understand.

I found it one heck of a process and still not there yet.

On the other hand, I really don't understand Goncalez either. I mean this is as good as a trial could have come out with no DP and a jury or some may not have went for the DP. I watched him on the News Nation thing finally and he truly wants a jury to decide but what if he loses justice? This is a solid deal getting all most could ask for except the DP.

He was very upset with the as he called him I think one old man that decides everything on his own. The P or DA I assume.

I don't understand either extreme I guess.

I also saw Ethan's family intends to be there in support of the deal.

It has to be hard when four families lost members and have different viewpoints I guess.

With Ethan's family, I seem to recall them saying they still have the other kids and wanted to be positive and there for them, and that's understandable, but it was almost immediate. And what if one of the other kids really are holding in and want to be able to speak out about their upset?

I guess I don't know, and I'm not judging any of them. They are families with a huge loss in a heinous crime. Just opposite extremes I guess is my point.
 
Ranch said:
It looks to me that Steve Goncalves's claim that the "majority" of the family's do not support the plea deal is not accurate.
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So Mogen and Chapin families will be supporting with Goncalves family against, so that just leaves one family's view not known so far then?
 
Tresir said:
This article seems to indicate Kernodle family may be against.

TBH nobody can stop him from pleading guilty at trial can they?

www.cbsnews.com

Idaho murder victims' families divided over Bryan Kohberger plea deal

Bryan Kohberger, accused of killing four University of Idaho students in November 2022, has accepted a plea deal, prosecutors say, as his trial was set to begin in August.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com
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Doubtful unless the judge listens to the families or something else goes wrong with his pleading.
 
But for Mogen, the plea deal is justice.

"We can actually put this behind us and not have these future dates and future things that we don't want to have to be at, that we shouldn't have to be at, that have to do with this terrible person," he said. "We get to just think about the rest of lives and have to try and figure out how to do it without Maddie and the rest of the kids."
www.cbsnews.com

Idaho murder victims' families divided over Bryan Kohberger plea deal

Bryan Kohberger, accused of killing four University of Idaho students in November 2022, has accepted a plea deal, prosecutors say, as his trial was set to begin in August.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com
 
I found this comment by Kim Kernodle interesting.

What's especially puzzling ... Kim says prosecutors told her there was enough evidence to secure a guilty verdict.
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Of course the prosecution feels they have enough evidence to get a conviction. If they didn't they wouldn't have gone forward with this case. And having enough evidence to convict doesn't mean you will actually get a conviction. We've all seen that happen in the past.

I think the family members who oppose the plea deal don't have a good understanding of the criminal justice system and that is distorting this issue for them. And if they are being extremely confrontational with the prosecution that could explain why they are having problems with communications between the party's involved.

www.tmz.com

Xana Kernodle's Family Furious, Will Fight Kohberger Plea

The family of Xana Kernodle is livid over the plea deal offered to accused murderer Bryan Kohberger ... and they told prosecutors they had better not dare go through with it.
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BK may not speak at the sentencing if I understand correctly. Unless he wants to.

After pleading guilty, a defendant is typically offered a formal opportunity to address the court to express remorse, and explain personal circumstances that might be considered in sentencing. This is known as an allocution statement
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The allocution statement provides an opportunity for defendants to accept responsibility, humanize themselves, and to mitigate their sentences to ensure that their punishment is appropriate for both the crime and the person who committed it.
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With this in mind, not all defendants exercise their right to submit an allocution statement directly to the court. Lawyers may submit statements on the defendant’s behalf, or statements may be waived entirely. According to a 2014 survey of federal judges, 84 percent of defendants in federal court exercise their right to allocution.
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