Karen Read accused of backing into boyfriend and leaving him to die *NOT GUILTY* (Guilty of OUI) (18 Viewers)

This woman didn't do this. I'd be willing to bet that someone in the house did it. Someone in the house looked up "How long will it take for somebody to die in the cold." Karen couldn't have done that search.

Is there a cover up conspiracy?

 

[Tresir]

If I explain it, you'll just find some reason to discount it. If you can't see it, nothing I can say will help you.

Ok then don't explain it. But there is no point posting pics with no explanation IMO and then when it is questioned saying it should be obvious. I am not going to guess what someone is supposedly trying to point out.

 

[Tresir]

@Tresir Tom did one on this just recently. He's a bit late to the game but has followed somewhat and he is such an analyzer, fact person, spreadsheet person lol, ett. and so unbiased and I haven't watched it all yet either but the first how many minutes is already interesting. Try to remember to link if I get around to. I already know who maybe will watch and who won't.

Imo news and shows have a lot to do with this. All some do or watch are shows and news like that want the hype and splashy headlines, clickbait, etc. They don't truly evaluate. I have one in my family and boy can one tell with anything, any subject,. Nowadays there is SO much more and some that really look at things even if it goes against a crowd or their own fans.

Anyhow just letting you know, a first one of Tom's is out. Perhaps the most unbiased person (know of a few) I have ever watched.

Ok thanks. Its bound to make more sense than anything i have read today.

ETA found it and have started watching. He is hitting all the evidence that points to the car and he did not go in house. Here's the link.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

Yeah telling you to drop it imo was not right when no one else is. Have you reported and pointed out the thread title?

I'm pretty sure who watched the trial here or major parts of it and who did not.

I want to to be done with it but I don't like falsehoods or someone telling another to drop it. @Cousin Dupree no offense but that's something coming from you. We listened to the same thing a million time over from you in the Delphi case. Stuck on the same thing on repeat. I am not trying to start something, just saying that it wasn't very nice to say that and no one here makes you right either.

This jury seems to have hangups on the investigation, not the crazy other stuff or conspiracy theory, just don't seem to believe it was proven.

And she was NOT FOUND INNOCENT on all counts.

There are plenty here on BOTH sides. We watched, we saw, I think some a LOT more than others. And I for one don't need one side trying to be stuffed at me STILL even after verdict when we all followed. Well some, to a point.

I don't know what it is about this case with people. Truly. Unless some just want or need some mayhem in their lives and an excuse.

I jump out and have many times but have followed elsewhere. Not going to not say so though when it continues.

I was ready for a verdict either direction. I felt the P solidly did a far superior job. However, I also knew the crowd thing and media saturation. She will get her own one day I also figured.
She also is going to own people like Turtleboy and good luck to her on that one.

There are four here, I believe sometimes five who see her guilt so how is it you think you can tell people they are wrong if they don't agree with you?

Asking nicely, you know next that I will joke with you in the basement, etc. No idea why the nastiness needs to go on. With one I am not surprised.

And the title of this thread IS wrong.

Sorry, but I'm not the only one who won't let it go.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

Ok then don't explain it. But there is no point posting pics with no explanation IMO and then when it is questioned saying it should be obvious. I am not going to guess what someone is supposedly trying to point out.

@Guess Who posted that.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

Ok thanks. Its bound to make more sense than anything i have read today.

ETA found it and have started watching. He is hitting all the evidence that points to the car and he did not go in house. Here's the link.

Yeah, whatever he thinks now doesn't matter.

 

[Tresir]

@Guess Who posted that.

I know and i asked her a question she ignored but you answered. Which is why i responded to you.

Forget it now though.

 

[Tresir]

Yeah, whatever he thinks now doesn't matter.

Not to you maybe but several of us are interested in what he thinks.

What makes you think they won't be charging anyone else? Somebody killed JO.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

Not to you maybe but several of us are interested in what he thinks.

What makes you think they won't be charging anyone else? Somebody killed JO.

Not the person you think. The person or person's responsible are, IMO, cops and the cover up will never come to light because of it.

Unfortunately, those people have lied to the O'Keefe family and have them believing the story about Karen are true. Which was easy to do, because she's not easy to like.

Her supporters haven't helped either. She should have lashed out at them the first time they harrassed the O'Keefe family.

 

[Tresir]

Not the person you think. The person or person's responsible are, IMO, cops and the cover up will never come to light because of it.

Unfortunately, those people have lied to the O'Keefe family and have them believing the story about Karen are true. Which was easy to do, because she's not easy to like.

Her supporters haven't helped either. She should have lashed out at them the first time they harrassed the O'Keefe family.

Well thats all still TBD isn't it? They can't let the murder of a cop go unresolved. They need to reinvestigate.

There is also the Sandra Birchmore case TBD.

 

[Regina]

Yes but after that she drove it to her parents, where LE recovered it from, so more could have fallen out at her parents too and been collected by LE. No way of knowing. I don't think all the pieces were found were they, unless you have a link explaining it? She drove back to JO's, then to her friend's then back to JO''s, then to her parents, where the vehicle was recovered by LE to the sallyport. So i don't follow your point at all.

All of the pieces in evidence were found on Fairview
.
Re her route, it's called into question as to whether she went back to Fairview that morn. before showing up at Jennifer's because there's over 20 minutes missing from the time she left John's and arrived at Jennifer's.

 

[Regina]

8 Minutes.

I feel so sorry for all those people. All they're guilty of is hospitality.

In his opening, Brennan was referring to John and his neice and nephew but what he said applies to so many other people, too. He said "they led a good life...enter Karen Read".

 

[Regina]

It should be obvious.

To me, the two photos show the same thing.

 

[Regina]

All of the pieces in evidence were found on Fairview
.
Re her route, it's called into question as to whether she went back to Fairview that morn. before showing up at Jennifer's because there's over 20 minutes missing from the time she left John's and arrived at Jennifer's.

Tresir, in case you don't know, I want to clarify why I said " before showing up at Jennifer's" and elaborate.
When Read last spoke to Kerry, she'd already left John's and Kerry was expecting her to come to her house so she could drive but instead of going to Kerry's, Read showed up at Jennifer's over 20 minutes later, and rather than go to door, she was out in front of Jennifer's house, screaming Jennifer's name over and over.

Btw, there's a vm to John from Read at 5: 23am (I think it was)- all she said was "John" and I can hear it in her voice that she either knew or feared he was dead.
Now, she'd already told Kerry that John was dead but I don't think she actually knew when she told her that, just that she knew it was likely.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Ok thanks. Its bound to make more sense than anything i have read today.

ETA found it and have started watching. He is hitting all the evidence that points to the car and he did not go in house. Here's the link.

Yep. I didn't get far but he said he'd been down the hole for a bit and then was putting this together and already in the first minutes, yes more sane than most things. Thanks for doing that!! I've mentioned a few others who don't jump on the crazy train as well.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Sorry, but I'm not the only one who won't let it go.

Still the remark was not very nice. And interesting how some were not around or had much for comments until the verdict. Almost voiceless.

Do what you like. All can take care of selves. Bur you aren't going to get anywhere and none of us who disagree will.

And the thread title IS WRONG.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Yeah, whatever he thinks now doesn't matter.

Oh you have watched so many dissected cases after the fact, that's almost funny lol. Wrongfully convicted always are.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Not the person you think. The person or person's responsible are, IMO, cops and the cover up will never come to light because of it.

Unfortunately, those people have lied to the O'Keefe family and have them believing the story about Karen are true. Which was easy to do, because she's not easy to like.

Her supporters haven't helped either. She should have lashed out at them the first time they harrassed the O'Keefe family.

You are still on the huge crazy conspiracy thing? Neither juror even was sold on that. Out of here for a bit. I can take it for a bit then I'm sick of it.

When a crazy D story starts in cases and they try to get it out to the public, I try to find someone sane to watch. Some jump on the trail and of course media that want sensation do.

Does me no good to recommend that though to some.

Sounds like something is being tried in Kohberger now, last ditch effort I assume.

A third party defense is a very HIGH standard for good reason and yet people whine in these cases why they can't bring it.

It's one thing if the jury though lack of proof and reasonable doubt but another for them to believe that garbage.

You still do?

 

[Tresir]

All of the pieces in evidence were found on Fairview
.
Re her route, it's called into question as to whether she went back to Fairview that morn. before showing up at Jennifer's because there's over 20 minutes missing from the time she left John's and arrived at Jennifer's.

That would explain how she knew where he was on the lawn.

 

[GrandmaBear]

All of the pieces in evidence were found on Fairview
.
Re her route, it's called into question as to whether she went back to Fairview that morn. before showing up at Jennifer's because there's over 20 minutes missing from the time she left John's and arrived at Jennifer's.

I must have missed that. How do they know that? Was there data missing from something??

 

[GrandmaBear]

I feel so sorry for all those people. All they're guilty of is hospitality.

In his opening, Brennan was referring to John and his neice and nephew but what he said applies to so many other people, too. He said "they led a good life...enter Karen Read".

This was GOOD Regina! Short but to the point! Too bad not all will likely watch it.

Brennan said in his closing to the women she called that morning were hardly friends but roused themselves to help her and then later she and he D turned it on them. They helped her out of goodness and concern for John, etc. She and her team absolutely disgust me and always will. You are right, all they offered was HELP. They were CALLED. I've never seen anything so SICK in my life. Trying to destroy others who only helped when you know what YOU did.

A very, very good watch. She is flat out evil and so is her team.

Also people don't know what the D does not bring or find out as to when it does not benefit them.

It truly touched on how ridiculous the alternative theory was and nuts that anyone would ever believe it.

Had them in the vid too, Jackson going to get home to his wife anytime soon? That must be a very different marriage. Maybe she just spends the money that comes in and cares less if he is ever there.

I have not mentioned it but I saw an odd look from Jackson at a juror or the jurors on what I think was the final day. I'll leave that at that. No one really mentioned it so not sure if really picked up on so I left it.

I hope what happens is what usually does. Supporters generally go on to the next big attn grabbing thing. I hope though some feel she owes them and are their friends.... She's not as I think we know. Talk about being used.

Yeah a conspiracy between 30 to 50 people from different agencies and jobs. Nuts that people fall for that sh*t.

Another one I've never mentioned I don't think is who the heck throws a body or mean to die body in their own yard? Ridiculous. If they have such power and can pull such things?

Never ever knew there were so many conspiracy theorists til a couple of cases lately. Someone makes one up after the fact to try to match the facts and BINGO. Talking out there, not at anyone in particular.

Even the jurors so far have not said they believed that yet people keep doing so. Smh.

Anyhow a good watch.