JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

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Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events
  • April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
  • December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
  • February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
  • February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
  • June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
  • July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
  • August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
  • September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
  • September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
  • September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
  • September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
  • October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
  • October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
  • October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
  • October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
  • Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
  • November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
  • November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
  • December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
  • December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
  • December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
  • January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
  • January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee

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I watched the East Idaho News one last night without any commentary, just straight court proceeding. I can’t believe how patient the judge is with her and how he explained things out to her and then she didn’t appreciate it at all. But I’m learning a little bit about the court system as he’s teaching her, I’m actually soaking in the information. Not that I will ever be my own attorney, but it’s interesting.
 
I watched the East Idaho News one last night without any commentary, just straight court proceeding. I can’t believe how patient the judge is with her and how he explained things out to her and then she didn’t appreciate it at all. But I’m learning a little bit about the court system as he’s teaching her, I’m actually soaking in the information. Not that I will ever be my own attorney, but it’s interesting.
I watched like four last night. I am weary already with it. I lack words any longer for Lori.

It's a done conclusion she is a manipulative evil woman who cares about no one else.

But beyond that she is I lack words, a juvenile, a dipsh*t, a nimrod, a dumbarse. I lack enough words. People have talked about Alex arresting in age after an accident, but man did this family raise any adults? I'm sorry. Maybe Summer and Adam but even there, none seem to ever have serious jobs and so on.

But just sticking to her, I mean like Keith described her and smart and manipulative but in watchingi these things a wise judge makes her look like a total juvenile idiot.
 
I am NOT going to spend another night posting links of tons of things from Justin and Nate. I think they come up for most people or they know how to find them. I may or I may not. Sick of her already just like I was of all the sh*t before the last trial.

So Lori is supposedly sick and may need quarantine. Imo she wants this last bit of control and the judge off the case who rotates off this jurisdiction in not too long. She is so full of sh*t if you ask me.

It was not all explained but now jury selection is to be Monday, was to be today. Nate said not all was explained to them. Some last minute rulings were handed out, etc., etc.

I think she's had more time to play in this case. And nothing to lose.

 
I watched the recent hearing and I must say the woman's been doing her homework on all that law stuff, lol.
I can say she is sickening to watch but it is also impossible to not need to see it, I'm not sure when we may ever see such again. I have so much respect for that judge I don't even have words, yet he has even come down on her but he's been patient for so long beforehand, when he does, nothing will ever overturn it. She has been told a kazillion times he can't advise her, but he cuts her chances and does what he can. She is stupid to want a new judge, people who watched were upset with how much room he gave her. She is simply trying her speedy trial trick and then delay things imo.

I can't wait until she shuts up and goes away on one hand but it is quite interesting to see how she works and ticks on the other hand.

As sickening as it can be, it is always worth a watch. Gives us a good look at her and her ways.

Yah, to your post, certainlly quite a jailhouse lawyer who thinks she will change ALL going at the law itself and such.
 
What's her defense going to be? Anyone got any ideas? Will she testify this time? It's her last chance to grandstand in the witness box.

Blame it all on Alex. Eg. Telling her he needed the jeep to pick up/take some belongings down to Zulema?

Blame it all on Melani B. Remembering how Mel B got Alex to take her to Utah to try and kidnap her kids.

Blame it on Chad.

Claim to be a Supreme being who can do no wrong, ever.
 
I actually disagree with inmates having access to things like vlogs YT and FB groups ever, etc. but in her case I almost hope one day she sees all the comments about her. In many cases, there may be some that feel a defendant innocent, in this one there are like almost negative ZERO.
 
What's her defense going to be? Anyone got any ideas? Will she testify this time? It's her last chance to grandstand in the witness box.

Blame it all on Alex. Eg. Telling her he needed the jeep to pick up/take some belongings down to Zulema?

Blame it all on Melani B. Remembering how Mel B got Alex to take her to Utah to try and kidnap her kids.

Blame it on Chad.

Claim to be a Supreme being who can do no wrong, ever.
She will never blame Chad most likely.

Last case she had a bit of a defense, trying to point out no one ever heard her collude or plan to kill but she'd sidetrack with her personal vendettas like at the woman who Charles went out with the night before. She sure is giving us a picture of self. And keeps giving it.

I doubt she will go at Melani either. Alex maybe or just again pointing out no one ever heard her collude and her just having her fun with what she likes.

Linda put one out last night. She's not always on but she has followed this for all the years and knows the stuff. It was good reminders of things relating to this Brandon case. If I run into it again I will link it, name of channel is It's A Crime. Most know how to find if need be if I don't link.

She covered too like the 12 million Brandon got, and not like I don't think he maybe deserved it don't get me wrong. But it's the only problem i have here is that he went from scared for the life of self and kids with Melani to not scared and I don't get that. I'd have used that money to fight for a total break of her involved. What makes him feel safe with her now, or their kids? I mean seriously. I respect him staying out of the public eye but I think that is one thing that needs to be explained. Melani is every bit a Lori.
 
I watched the recent hearing and I must say the woman's been doing her homework on all that law stuff, lol.
I agree! I’m surprised at how much she does know. But then again, that’s probably all she does in her cell. She might even have a friend in there who knows a little bit about the law themselves.
 
I think her defense is going to continue to be that there’s no offense. That’s been her theme throughout and I don’t see her changing it. I’ll be surprised if she does.
 
I agree! I’m surprised at how much she does know. But then again, that’s probably all she does in her cell. She might even have a friend in there who knows a little bit about the law themselves.
If you watched Rachel though on Justin's, this is common sh*t touted by prisoners, they go to constitutional rights and such. Imo she knows little about the actual law, case law and the merits needed in motions.

She has learned a little of that but imo not much.

They go to the outside stuff of overall rights for one, rather than dialing into what is needed in responses to the actual crime.

Personally earlier on I thought she had learned a little but lately her behavior has her looking like a high school student up against a P and a judge. A real juvenile.

Jmo though. She could have done worse in the last trial but could have done better too. I doubt this one will be much different.
 
If you watched Rachel though on Justin's, this is common sh*t touted by prisoners, they go to constitutional rights and such. Imo she knows little about the actual law, case law and the merits needed in motions.

She has learned a little of that but imo not much.

They go to the outside stuff of overall rights for one, rather than dialing into what is needed in responses to the actual crime.

Personally earlier on I thought she had learned a little but lately her behavior has her looking like a high school student up against a P and a judge. A real juvenile.

Jmo though. She could have done worse in the last trial but could have done better too. I doubt this one will be much different.
I don’t think it’s going to be much different either. She thinks she knows everything already.
 
I don’t think it’s going to be much different either. She thinks she knows everything already.
Yep. I'm so ready as you are for her to go away but it's almost a law learning process and always a show when she is "on". That won't make me regret it when finally done though.

I actually found myself a bit irritated with Megan and Colby even about doing unnecessary shows when nothing new was happening about things that have been hashed out a million times. I truly hope when over maybe other than interviewing prosecutors and willing jurors and closing out with how it went, that people stop talking about it and her.

I truly am sick of her but boy seeing how she think I feel I have to do. I've loved also a few judges but this one, my GOD am I in love. She is so out of her realm yet he puts up with her most of the time and even gives her more chances. I don't know how he does it. And she looks to remove him. Just a game imo.
 
Nate had one this morning I have not watched. I haven't checked since but I'm sure news will come on this one today, whether any delays, jury selection done or not and openings if they get that far. If anyone else is checking, would appreciate any news.

I'm busy listening to Jackson upset his usual ways aren't working in Read.
 
Nate had one this morning I have not watched. I haven't checked since but I'm sure news will come on this one today, whether any delays, jury selection done or not and openings if they get that far. If anyone else is checking, would appreciate any news.

I'm busy listening to Jackson upset his usual ways aren't working in Read.
i keep meaning to ask nate who so i can follow along
 
OMG she turned up in a wheelchair.


Lori Vallow Daybell in court
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Lori Vallow Daybell is on trial in Maricopa County, Arizona, on one charge of conspiracy to commit the murder of Brandon Boudreaux, her former nephew-in-law. Nate Eaton is live in the courtroom with updates. Please excuse any typos. Times listed below are in Mountain Standard Time, so they are an hour behind Idaho. (Arizona does not observe Daylight Saving Time.) The most recent updates are at the top.
11:15 a.m. Court is adjourned.
11:14 a.m. Judge apologizes again and asks them all to return Wednesday at 10 a.m. He tells them not to look up anything about the case and tells them not to discuss it with anyone. He says if they make it on the jury, he will make it up to them and buy them donuts. One lady responds, “That’ll work!”
11:13 a.m. Judge explains that there are no attorneys here. “I’m embarrassed to tell you because I’ve never had this come up in my entire career. Something else has come up now and we’re unable to proceed with jury selection as planned. The situation is such that we won’t be able to resume until Wednesday morning. I hate to ask you guys to do this and I apologize.”
11:09 a.m. Jurors have been escorted in and take their seats.
11:08 a.m. One juror will be excused as he had a camping trip scheduled for Friday. Lori’s attorneys and Treena Kay just walked out of the courtroom. Judge just shook his head. He is visibly frustrated.
11:07 a.m. Lori is loudly crying. Judge asks Lori and the prosecutor to exit because Lori would not move from her wheelchair. Judge will now explain what is going on to the jurors without the prosecutor or defense in the room.
11:04 a.m. Judge says he needs to bring jurors in to tell them something. He asks Lori if he can sit in a regular chair and move the wheelchair. Lori argues with him. “You are putting a lot pressure on me to be better by Wednesday.” She starts to cry. She is worried she won’t be better by Wednesday. “If I’m not better tomorrow, are you going to drag me in here on Wednesday to bring me here?” Judge: “Yes, the answer is yes. I will probably order you to be here on Wednesday. We will take tomorrow off. I need to confirm how you are feeling.” Lori tells the judge he’s welcome to go to the jail and see how she’s doing. Judge says, “I’ll take a pass on that.”
11:03 a.m. Treena Kay suggests starting early on days this week once Lori is better. Judge says we could start at 10 a.m. on Wednesday. He is using another judge’s courtroom so needs to see if the room will be open.
11:02 a.m. Judge says he will try to salvage the jury in this trial. “I’m sure these jurors are going to be none to happy coming down today again for a dry run.”
11:02 a.m. Meanwhile, there are over 50 potential jurors waiting outside the courtroom.
11:01 a.m. “My concern is she’s in a wheelchair now,” Treena Kay says. Judge says he would ask her to sit in a regular seat. Judge wants to proceed with oral voir dire. Lori says she’s not capable to perform and wants to get better so she can represent herself. “I can’t control any of this,” she says.
11 a.m. Treena Kay says she has already rescheduled witnesses to fly in. She says she understands the defendant is sick, but needs to know the schedule. Treena says she’s unsure about what to do. Maybe wait until Wednesday and see if Lori feels better by then and stay with the same jury.
10:59 a.m. Judge is back on the bench. Lori says her counsel is not comfortable choosing the jury. “I’m sorry that I’m sick. I did not plan on getting sick.” She says she has only been sick one other time. It’s hard to hear her. She says she has a right to represent herself.
10:55 a.m. Lori was just wheeled in. She is leaning her head into her right hand.
10:54 a.m. Lori’s attorneys just walked into the courtroom. They are seated at the defense table.
10:51 a.m. Brandon Boudreaux and his wife just walked into the courtroom with their victim advocate. They are seated on the front row. Around 10-15 members of the public are in the courtroom.
10:48 a.m. Lori looks considerably different from the way she has in previous days. Judge basically told her that her team could do jury selection without her and she could rest up.
10:47 a.m. Lori is wheeled out of the courtroom in a wheelchair with her face down and face in her hand.
10:45 a.m. Judge tells Lori not a lot is expected of her at this point in the trial. He says he wants to keep the trial on track. Tells Lori she should consult with her advisory counsel. Treena Kay says she has nothing to put on the record. The judge says we will go into recess.
10:44 a.m. Judge says: “I’m your trial judge. My instructions are to complete your second trial. Even if, for some reason your sickness worsens, even if this case got delayed into June or July or August, I’d still be your trial judge.”
10:44 a.m. Judge asks Lori if she would be willing to have one of her advisory counsel finish voir dire.
10:43 a.m. Just walked in the courtroom. Judge is telling Lori that sometimes things need to proceed when we are feeling unwell. They are discussing “tank orders.” Judge asks Lori what symptoms she is having. Nausea, chills, headache, she responds.
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