UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson killed in Midtown Manhattan by masked gunman in December 2024
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Tresir
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I'm gobsmacked we finally agree on something. Yeah.
Tresir
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They are going to seek the death penalty for Mangione in the federal case. His fans will be mad.
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Posted: Apr 1, 2025 / 12:45 PM PDT
Updated: Apr 1, 2025 / 12:47 PM PDT
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NEW YORK (AP) — U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi said Tuesday that she has directed prosecutors to seek the death penalty against Luigi Mangione in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, following through on the president’s campaign promise to vigorously pursue capital punishment.
It is the first time the Justice Department has sought to bring the death penalty since President Donald Trump returned to office in January with a vow to resume federal executions after they were halted under the previous administration.
“Luigi Mangione’s murder of Brian Thompson — an innocent man and father of two young children — was a premeditated, cold-blooded assassination that shocked America,” Bondi said in a statement. She described Thompson’s killing as “an act of political violence.”
Mangione, a 26-year-old Ivy League graduate from a prominent Maryland real estate family, faces separate federal and state murder charges after authorities say he gunned down Thompson, 50, outside a Manhattan hotel on Dec. 4 as the executive arrived for UnitedHealthcare’s annual investor conference.
Mangione’s lawyer, Karen Friedman Agnifilo, said Tuesday that in seeking the death penalty “the Justice Department has moved from the dysfunctional to the barbaric.”
Mangione “is caught in a high-stakes game of tug-of-war between state and federal prosecutors, except the trophy is a young man’s life,” Friedman Agnifilo said in a statement, vowing to fight all charges against him.
The killing and ensuing five-day manhunt leading to Mangione’s arrest rattled the business community, with some health insurers hastily switching to remote work or online shareholder meetings. It also galvanized health insurance critics — some of whom have rallied around Mangione as a stand-in for frustrations over coverage denials and hefty medical bills.
Surveillance video showed a masked gunman shooting Thompson from behind. Police say the words “delay,” “deny” and “depose” were scrawled on the ammunition, mimicking a phrase commonly used to describe insurer tactics to avoid paying claims.
Mangione’s federal charges include murder through use of a firearm, which carries the possibility of the death penalty. The state charges carry a maximum punishment of life in prison. Mangione has pleaded not guilty to a state indictment and has not yet been required to enter a plea on the federal charges.
Prosecutors have said the two cases will proceed on parallel tracks, with the state case expected to go to trial first. It wasn’t immediately clear if Bondi’s announcement will change the order.
Mangione was arrested Dec. 9 in Altoona, Pennsylvania, about 230 miles (about 370 kilometers) west of New York City and whisked to Manhattan by plane and helicopter.
Police said Mangione had a 9mm handgun that matched the one used in the shooting and other items including a notebook in which they say he expressed hostility toward the health insurance industry and wealthy executives.
Among the entries, prosecutors said, was one from August 2024 that said “the target is insurance” because “it checks every box” and one from October that describes an intent to “wack” an insurance company CEO. UnitedHealthcare, the largest U.S. health insurer, has said Mangione was never a client.
Mangione’s lawyer has said she would seek to suppress some of the evidence.
Former President Joe Biden’s Justice Department filed the federal case against Mangione but left it to Trump and his administration to decide whether to seek the death penalty. Because the federal case had been taking a backseat to the state case, federal prosecutors have yet to seek a grand jury indictment, which is required for capital cases.
Trump oversaw an unprecedented run of 13 executions at the end of his first term and has been an outspoken proponent of expanding capital punishment. Trump signed an executive order on his first day back in office on Jan. 20 that compels the Justice Department to seek the death penalty in federal cases where applicable.
Bondi’s order comes weeks after she lifted a Biden-era moratorium on federal executions.
Biden campaigned on a pledge to work toward abolishing federal capital punishment but took no major steps to that end. While Attorney General Merrick Garland halted federal executions in 2021, Biden’s Justice Department at the same time fought vigorously to maintain the sentences of death row inmates in many cases.
In his final weeks in office, Biden commuted the sentences of 37 of the 40 people on federal death row, converting their punishments to life in prison.
The three inmates that remain are Dylann Roof, who carried out the 2015 racist slayings of nine Black members of Mother Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, South Carolina; 2013 Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev; and Robert Bowers, who fatally shot 11 congregants at Pittsburgh’s Tree of Life synagogue in 2018, the deadliest antisemitic attack in U.S history.
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Federal prosecutors to seek death penalty for Luigi Mangione in UnitedHealthcare CEO’s killing
Posted: Apr 1, 2025 / 12:45 PM PDT
Updated: Apr 1, 2025 / 12:47 PM PDT
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NEW YORK (AP) — U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi said Tuesday that she has directed prosecutors to seek the death penalty against Luigi Mangione in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, following through on the president’s campaign promise to vigorously pursue capital punishment.
It is the first time the Justice Department has sought to bring the death penalty since President Donald Trump returned to office in January with a vow to resume federal executions after they were halted under the previous administration.
“Luigi Mangione’s murder of Brian Thompson — an innocent man and father of two young children — was a premeditated, cold-blooded assassination that shocked America,” Bondi said in a statement. She described Thompson’s killing as “an act of political violence.”
Mangione, a 26-year-old Ivy League graduate from a prominent Maryland real estate family, faces separate federal and state murder charges after authorities say he gunned down Thompson, 50, outside a Manhattan hotel on Dec. 4 as the executive arrived for UnitedHealthcare’s annual investor conference.
Mangione’s lawyer, Karen Friedman Agnifilo, said Tuesday that in seeking the death penalty “the Justice Department has moved from the dysfunctional to the barbaric.”
Mangione “is caught in a high-stakes game of tug-of-war between state and federal prosecutors, except the trophy is a young man’s life,” Friedman Agnifilo said in a statement, vowing to fight all charges against him.
The killing and ensuing five-day manhunt leading to Mangione’s arrest rattled the business community, with some health insurers hastily switching to remote work or online shareholder meetings. It also galvanized health insurance critics — some of whom have rallied around Mangione as a stand-in for frustrations over coverage denials and hefty medical bills.
Surveillance video showed a masked gunman shooting Thompson from behind. Police say the words “delay,” “deny” and “depose” were scrawled on the ammunition, mimicking a phrase commonly used to describe insurer tactics to avoid paying claims.
Mangione’s federal charges include murder through use of a firearm, which carries the possibility of the death penalty. The state charges carry a maximum punishment of life in prison. Mangione has pleaded not guilty to a state indictment and has not yet been required to enter a plea on the federal charges.
Prosecutors have said the two cases will proceed on parallel tracks, with the state case expected to go to trial first. It wasn’t immediately clear if Bondi’s announcement will change the order.
Mangione was arrested Dec. 9 in Altoona, Pennsylvania, about 230 miles (about 370 kilometers) west of New York City and whisked to Manhattan by plane and helicopter.
Police said Mangione had a 9mm handgun that matched the one used in the shooting and other items including a notebook in which they say he expressed hostility toward the health insurance industry and wealthy executives.
Among the entries, prosecutors said, was one from August 2024 that said “the target is insurance” because “it checks every box” and one from October that describes an intent to “wack” an insurance company CEO. UnitedHealthcare, the largest U.S. health insurer, has said Mangione was never a client.
Mangione’s lawyer has said she would seek to suppress some of the evidence.
Former President Joe Biden’s Justice Department filed the federal case against Mangione but left it to Trump and his administration to decide whether to seek the death penalty. Because the federal case had been taking a backseat to the state case, federal prosecutors have yet to seek a grand jury indictment, which is required for capital cases.
Trump oversaw an unprecedented run of 13 executions at the end of his first term and has been an outspoken proponent of expanding capital punishment. Trump signed an executive order on his first day back in office on Jan. 20 that compels the Justice Department to seek the death penalty in federal cases where applicable.
Bondi’s order comes weeks after she lifted a Biden-era moratorium on federal executions.
Biden campaigned on a pledge to work toward abolishing federal capital punishment but took no major steps to that end. While Attorney General Merrick Garland halted federal executions in 2021, Biden’s Justice Department at the same time fought vigorously to maintain the sentences of death row inmates in many cases.
In his final weeks in office, Biden commuted the sentences of 37 of the 40 people on federal death row, converting their punishments to life in prison.
The three inmates that remain are Dylann Roof, who carried out the 2015 racist slayings of nine Black members of Mother Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, South Carolina; 2013 Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev; and Robert Bowers, who fatally shot 11 congregants at Pittsburgh’s Tree of Life synagogue in 2018, the deadliest antisemitic attack in U.S history.
GrandmaBear
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Wow, yeah, his whole handful of fans.
His atty's statements are bit over the top but then he is getting paid so there's that and it's a case maybe he will get notice from.
I'm for the DP so long as the evidence is there and apparently so are a helluva lot of other people.
How do you feel about it? I know it came up recently re another case and the woman not being sent back here and now it's about life w/o parole.
It isn't one bit barbaric imo although some of the methods have been maybe, because it's reserved for those that have done worse to their victims by far. Most of them just sit for years anyhow although under fed law that is different than states that never carry it out.
I knew Biden commuted but did not now it was that many. These days, next they will be out and a bunch of the worst on the streets again. I'm not commenting on Biden but on any that commute like that.
I'm not touching politics one bit nor have a position that way but do agree with the DP in some cases. Heck this just made me think of @Mel70 too and never thought to fire up the device today to see if she responded, going to try to do that before I forget. I don't think she has, she hadn't after something like 5 messages now
She agrees with it I know, that's why it made me think of her.
Gosh, better go do that right now or I won't.
GrandmaBear
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Darn it. No she hasn't.
Takeitfromme
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I don't really follow this one but I do feel strongly about convicting him because it is...... SIMPLY AGAINST THE LAW TO WALK UP TO A HUMAN AND ASSASSINATE THEM!
However I got to thinking about all this perks fans..... they have Bundy Syndrome..... they are smitten with him like people were with Ted Bundy.... good looking smart all that
However I got to thinking about all this perks fans..... they have Bundy Syndrome..... they are smitten with him like people were with Ted Bundy.... good looking smart all that
GrandmaBear
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Not sure what "perks" fans are lol but understand all the rest. I can't believe the people that think he's some hero but honestly when one thinks about it, it is not that many, it's just the type and that is what the news gives attn to. Unless people think we should return to the old west or do vigilante justice, he is a cold blooded murderer. I don't care if the victim was a rich CEO or selfish or anything, the perp still did wrong. It's just the reverse of when they think prostitutes deserve to get killed. In either case, he was a CEO that maybe didn't put people first so he doesn't deserve justice and deserved to be killed? And prostitutes put themselves in danger so they deserve to be killed? The victims are not always the most pristine but murder is WRONG. Plainly as I can put it.
Tresir
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Mangy booger in fed court today.
Mangione pleads not guilty to NY federal charges.
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Luigi Mangione pleaded not guilty to the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New York City at his arraignment today in Manhattan federal court.
The murder charge is eligible for the death penalty, which Attorney General Pam Bondi said prosecutors will seek in the federal trial.
Mangione, 26, stood with his lawyers as he entered his plea Friday. He leaned forward to a microphone as U.S. District Judge Margaret Garnett asked him if understood the indictment and the charges against him.
Mangione said, "yes." When asked how he wished to plead, he said, "not guilty" and sat down.
The pleas were not unexpected, since Mangione also pleaded not guilty to state charges he's facing in New York and Pennsylvania.
The judge overseeing the case said she hopes to set a trial date during the next federal court conference on Dec. 5.
Federal prosecutors say Mangione poses a future danger, alleging in the latest court filing that he intended to "target an entire industry and rally opposition to that industry by engaging in lethal violence."
They also say he took steps to dodge law enforcement, flee New York City after the murder and cross state lines while armed with a privately manufactured gun and silencer.
U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi previously said prosecutors would seek the death penalty, marking the first time since President Trump vowed to resume federal executions when he took office in January.
Mangione's attorneys have filed motions asking for the death penalty option to be removed, saying the government "intends to kill Mr. Mangione as a political stunt."
Civil and criminal attorney Donte Mills explained the challenges in a death penalty case.
"You have an additional burden, you have to prove intent. Intent that he intended to rile up the community or make people act as he did, make people commit murders against people in the healthcare industry. You have to prove that he intended this to be more than the killing of one person, and it's really hard to prove what was in someone's mind," Mills said.
The manhunt for his killer led police through Central Park to a hostel on the Upper West Side and eventually to a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania.
Mangione has pleaded not guilty to state murder and terrorism charges in New York, as well as forgery and weapons charges in Pennsylvania.
Ali Bauman and Anna Schecter contributed to this report.
Mangione pleads not guilty to NY federal charges.
Luigi Mangione pleads not guilty as DOJ seeks death penalty in NYC federal murder trial
Luigi Mangione pleaded not guilty to the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in NYC at his arraignment in Manhattan federal court.
www.cbsnews.com
Luigi Mangione pleaded not guilty to the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New York City at his arraignment today in Manhattan federal court.
The murder charge is eligible for the death penalty, which Attorney General Pam Bondi said prosecutors will seek in the federal trial.
Luigi Mangione pleads not guilty in NYC federal murder case
Federal prosecutors indicted Mangione last week on two counts of stalking, a firearm offense and murder through the use of a firearm in Thompson's 2024 shooting death.Mangione, 26, stood with his lawyers as he entered his plea Friday. He leaned forward to a microphone as U.S. District Judge Margaret Garnett asked him if understood the indictment and the charges against him.
Mangione said, "yes." When asked how he wished to plead, he said, "not guilty" and sat down.
The pleas were not unexpected, since Mangione also pleaded not guilty to state charges he's facing in New York and Pennsylvania.
The judge overseeing the case said she hopes to set a trial date during the next federal court conference on Dec. 5.
Pam Bondi, DOJ seeking death penalty against Mangione
Mangione's arraignment came a day after the U.S. Department of Justice formally told the court it intends to seek the death penalty in the case.Federal prosecutors say Mangione poses a future danger, alleging in the latest court filing that he intended to "target an entire industry and rally opposition to that industry by engaging in lethal violence."
They also say he took steps to dodge law enforcement, flee New York City after the murder and cross state lines while armed with a privately manufactured gun and silencer.
U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi previously said prosecutors would seek the death penalty, marking the first time since President Trump vowed to resume federal executions when he took office in January.
Mangione's attorneys have filed motions asking for the death penalty option to be removed, saying the government "intends to kill Mr. Mangione as a political stunt."
Civil and criminal attorney Donte Mills explained the challenges in a death penalty case.
"You have an additional burden, you have to prove intent. Intent that he intended to rile up the community or make people act as he did, make people commit murders against people in the healthcare industry. You have to prove that he intended this to be more than the killing of one person, and it's really hard to prove what was in someone's mind," Mills said.
UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson killed in NYC
The 26-year-old is accused of ambushing Thompson, a husband and father of two, outside a midtown hotel on Dec. 4, 2024. Investigators said Thompson was on his way to an investors conference when he was shot in the back on the sidewalk.The manhunt for his killer led police through Central Park to a hostel on the Upper West Side and eventually to a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania.
Mangione has pleaded not guilty to state murder and terrorism charges in New York, as well as forgery and weapons charges in Pennsylvania.
Ali Bauman and Anna Schecter contributed to this report.
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GrandmaBear
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Mangy is 26 and facing the DP. Does he still think it worth it?
From a pretty privileged lifestyle, he is now sitting in jail facing tons of charges and the DP.
He plotted to do this, he traveled to do this. Okay, suppose I'd better add allegedly.
He's past the age of where they say the brain finally matures. He plotted. There is a manifesto or something on that order.
I find it pretty interesting other than one crafted statement his family is pretty silent.
From a pretty privileged lifestyle, he is now sitting in jail facing tons of charges and the DP.
He plotted to do this, he traveled to do this. Okay, suppose I'd better add allegedly.
He's past the age of where they say the brain finally matures. He plotted. There is a manifesto or something on that order.
I find it pretty interesting other than one crafted statement his family is pretty silent.
Cousin Dupree
Like Jesus, live your life to help others.
They've got him on film!! Good luck with that not guilty plea.
GrandmaBear
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I'm really glad you are on the same page on this one. I mean to each their own, own opinion always.
I am no fan of the healthcare system and I agree on that, but as you now doesn't mean I think cold blooded shot from behind plotted murder is okay.
Two very different subjects.
GrandmaBear
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I agree. It either does or it doesn't. It's not the wild west. Things certainly aren't perfect, or the system perfect, but one or the other? If vigilante justice is okay, and I'm serious, then I have some things TO GO DO. Believe me, I'd like to in a few instances in all my years....
It is NOT OKAY.
Our system, power, etc. is not okay, the rules, the laws, and so on, the corrupt. But you don't fix anything this way.
It is NOT OKAY.
Our system, power, etc. is not okay, the rules, the laws, and so on, the corrupt. But you don't fix anything this way.
Tresir
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Apparently there is going to be a Mangy Booger musical. Its already sold out and his GFM is already over $1m.
It's unbelievable.
www.newsweek.com
It's unbelievable.
Luigi Mangione musical sells out
Mangione is accused of shooting and killing UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson outside a hotel in Manhattan in December 2024.
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Takeitfromme
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ok... i'm gonna be the one to say it being the one from the boston area.... we all want to say it so here it is........JUST WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Apparently there is going to be a Mangy Booger musical. Its already sold out and his GFM is already over $1m.
It's unbelievable.
Luigi Mangione musical sells out
Mangione is accused of shooting and killing UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson outside a hotel in Manhattan in December 2024.
Tresir
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Vigilante justice and 3D weapon printing is the way to go for the future, clearly.
GrandmaBear
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Not ever going to read that one if can help it. Dumbest thing just what I can see I've ever heard of. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't whoever behind the donations, hard to say, don't really care. Seriously though how stupid can some people be...Apparently there is going to be a Mangy Booger musical. Its already sold out and his GFM is already over $1m.
It's unbelievable.
Luigi Mangione musical sells out
Mangione is accused of shooting and killing UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson outside a hotel in Manhattan in December 2024.
Cousin Dupree
Like Jesus, live your life to help others.
Tresir
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Not a chance. Juries aren't stupid. The public, however, is.
Cousin Dupree
Like Jesus, live your life to help others.
All it takes is for one juror to refuse to convict based on their own principals.
Guess Who
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And that's exactly why their attorney's have them plead not guilty