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MADELINE SOTO: State of Florida vs. Stephan Sterns *GUILTY PLEA*

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Madeline Soto missing: Florida mom begs for daughter's safe return home​

A mother in Orange County is begging for help locating her missing daughter.

Madeline ‘Maddie’ Soto was last seen on Monday, one day after she and her family celebrated her 13th birthday. Maddie’s mother, Jenn Soto, said surveillance video shows Maddie hanging out in a church parking lot on February 26 after being dropped off for school, but she never made it inside.

"I’m trying to hope for the best, but I’m scared for her," said Jenn Soto. "I want her to be okay; I want her to be safe… I don’t want her to come back harmed. I just want her back – whatever that means, I just want her back."

Jenn Soto said sheriff’s deputies are using K9s and a piece of Maddie’s clothing to try to track her scent near Town Loop Boulevard.

According to Jenn Soto, Maddie had never run away before. She said the teen had forgotten her cell phone at home that morning, but that was normal.

As of Wednesday morning, a variety of search teams are out searching for Maddie.


MEDIA - MADELINE SOTO: Missing from Orlando, FL - 26 Feb 2024 - Age 13
 
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Well it sounds like she was called as a witness in a hearing for Sterns, right?
By subpoena might be just the way they call such a witness but I really don't know.
No, I'm pretty positive they had to subpoena her for an interview with the State Attorney. Meaning she quit cooperating. She got an attorney and they went because she was subpoanaed. That's how I understand it. I don't think it was any hearing. If you ignore a subpoena, then you can have charges. She complied but with an attorney. That's the way I understand it anyhow.

It's another interview that is available and nothing on it sounded like some hearing. It is an interview. A further one. I never heard a judge, another attorney or anything else. It is an interview. She quit cooperating and had to be subpoenaed.
 
Well there is a video of clothing in a laundry basket in with clean and dirty clothes, and she offers such on that rare occasion when she does such like how she pushed the vape shop name and video to try to push his narrative or proof of such. Imo.
For context, she was telling detectives her timeline and I don't think she said anything about Sterns until she was asked.
Regardless, all she could have known about his timeline is what he told her and at some point, she asked detectives if they wanted the name of the place.
What I'm saying is that contrary to pushing his narrative, this is actually another instance in which she showed consciousness of innocence and what I mean is, she offered info that she believed supported his timline- info that help detectives determine that part of his timeline- yet it's info that helped destroy it.
 
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No, I'm pretty positive they had to subpoena her for an interview with the State Attorney. Meaning she quit cooperating. She got an attorney and they went because she was subpoanaed. That's how I understand it. I don't think it was any hearing. If you ignore a subpoena, then you can have charges. She complied but with an attorney. That's the way I understand it anyhow.

It's another interview that is available and nothing on it sounded like some hearing. It is an interview. A further one. I never heard a judge, another attorney or anything else. It is an interview. She quit cooperating and had to be subpoenaed.
But it's transcribed, though, right?
And sorry if you mentioned it but who questioned her?
 
But it's transcribed, though, right?
And sorry if you mentioned it but who questioned her?
No, I think I heard it like all the others, on audio. Maybe I'm mixed up but I don't think so.

Some State Attorney I believe. Maybe it was a detective but I know the State Attorney issued the subpoena, pretty certain.

I don't know how much time I'll get if any but I'll try to find it again. I don't know though which of three likely channels it was on...

I have no confusion though with regard to she was subpoenaed, by a State Attorney, and she showed up with an attorney. This was never said but I guess it could have been a deposition. It was said I'm almost sure to be another interview in the case.
 
In the meantime, have you listened to the one when Jenn is riding in the car with the detective to the press conference I believe it is. She seems to have really taken a shine to him, lots of giggles and more, they're just having conversation basically although he does ask some questions...
 
No, I think I heard it like all the others, on audio. Maybe I'm mixed up but I don't think so.

Some State Attorney I believe. Maybe it was a detective but I know the State Attorney issued the subpoena, pretty certain.

I don't know how much time I'll get if any but I'll try to find it again. I don't know though which of three likely channels it was on...

I have no confusion though with regard to she was subpoenaed, by a State Attorney, and she showed up with an attorney. This was never said but I guess it could have been a deposition. It was said I'm almost sure to be another interview in the case.
I went back to see when Sterns was charged with murder and found he was indicted by a grand jury on April 24 and so it appears to me that the subpoena was most likely associated with the grand jury proceedings.
I think the questioning re Sterns and Madeline's clothing on the eve and night before might have been an attmpt to gather more evidence as to when the murder occurred based on the clothing on her body.
 
Okay I have finally hit on the incident report where she said the sex stuff wasn't evil, she was asked why she was more protective of Stearns than her daughter, where it is said sleeping Stearns seemed common and that she eventually okayed "sleepovers" with her in his bed. Says her emotions seemed fictitious and she seemed to have accepted the sex stuff. Not through it all yet but just more damning imo.

And even in the same bed, yah put her in the middle why don't ya.

I'm NOT buying it.

I don't know if it was GJ or not as to the other but I doubt it because I would never have heard the interview. GJ proceedings are secret by their nature. So I seriously doubt the one where she was subpoenaed and showed up with a lawyer was a GJ thing. We'd never get that info.
 
Right now and throughout the last week or so, my opinion is this mother sold her daughter down the river. She put her in as a replacement for his satisfaction before herself. The only times I have ever heard an attempt at caring about her daughter or talking nicely about her is well after she knew what the internet and world were saying and thinking. She NEVER showed one sign of such before that. And when she does it falls flat. Like about her wonderful singing voice for instance.... She does nothing but protect this man and herself. Even her jovial ride with the detective to the presser? Schmoozing at that point...

I took my time jumping on a ship many had jumped on but I'm pretty much there.

Jmo.
 
In the meantime, have you listened to the one when Jenn is riding in the car with the detective to the press conference I believe it is. She seems to have really taken a shine to him, lots of giggles and more, they're just having conversation basically although he does ask some questions...
Yes, I'm pretty sure I've heard the audio of all of Jennifer's interviews up until the one in which she's made aware of what was on Sterns phone.
Anyway, what I noticed was the detective fishing for info, including info re the health of Sterns' parents. You know, Sterns had told detectives that he moved back home so that he could help them...LMAO.

One of the things Jennifer discussed was what more can be done and what to do next and re that, she said that her and her family were discussing the idea of having a vigil.
 
Oh and her statement that she saw Maddie getting ready for school comes back to haunt now... With inconsistencies being covered... I am just reacting to listening to the report being read....
 
Yes, I'm pretty sure I've heard the audio of all of Jennifer's interviews up until the one in which she's made aware of what was on Sterns phone.
Anyway, what I noticed was the detective fishing for info, including info re the health of Sterns' parents. You know, Sterns had told detectives that he moved back home so that he could help them...LMAO.

One of the things Jennifer discussed was what more can be done and what to do next and re that, she said that her and her family were discussing the idea of having a vigil.
Yeah his parents sounded far more with it and capable to me than either of those two do (JS OR SS). He was trying to confirm Stephan's lies imo and she said no at first and then it is like she realized SS must have said poor health, they needed his health and then she jumped right on board to back up what she figured he had said and It rang entirely false.

Of course detectives "fish". LOL. It isn't like their job is to hand out graham crackers to adult children.
 
I don't know if it was GJ or not as to the other but I doubt it because I would never have heard the interview. GJ proceedings are secret by their nature. So I seriously doubt the one where she was subpoenaed and showed up with a lawyer was a GJ thing. We'd never get that info.
Well what questions other than those about other people's clothing was she asked?
 
Yes, I'm pretty sure I've heard the audio of all of Jennifer's interviews up until the one in which she's made aware of what was on Sterns phone.
Anyway, what I noticed was the detective fishing for info, including info re the health of Sterns' parents. You know, Sterns had told detectives that he moved back home so that he could help them...LMAO.

One of the things Jennifer discussed was what more can be done and what to do next and re that, she said that her and her family were discussing the idea of having a vigil.
yeah the whole vigil thing.... not sure of your point there. most cases that's what all or the ones who swarm to it get a family to do or they do. people were suggesting such in ours, what can they do to help, well meant but... her being about what more can be done or a vigil means nothing to me and not sure if you meant it is meaningful? because it isn't. and it's probably other people more than her, just as it was with searching, calling LE or anything else...
 
Yeah his parents sounded far more with it and capable to me than either of those two do (JS OR SS). He was trying to confirm Stephan's lies imo and she said no at first and then it is like she realized SS must have said poor health, they needed his health and then she jumped right on board to back up what she figured he had said and It rang entirely false.

Of course detectives "fish". LOL. It isn't like their job is to hand out graham crackers to adult children.
Would it have made a difference if I'd said probing rather than fishing?
 
I think the questioning re Sterns and Madeline's clothing on the eve and night before might have been an attmpt to gather more evidence as to when the murder occurred based on the clothing on her body.
I want to add that I think what Sterns was wearing would also have been of interest and for the same reason.
In the 7:35am video, he's wearing a red shirt but in a video at 10:54am (this was after he'd returned home and was shown again throwing something into the dumpster), he was wearing a blue shirt, apparently the same one he's wearing in that body cam video late that eve..
 
Would it have made a difference if I'd said probing rather than fishing?
Lol, no. I'd have said the same. It's their job to fish, or to probe. And he was on duty after all... He's just playing more the good cop. I love the Myra lady detective. Man she's good at her job. BUT he did get JS talking...
 
I want to add that I think what Sterns was wearing would also have been of interest and for the same reason.
In the 7:35am video, he's wearing a red shirt but in a video at 10:54am (this was after he'd returned home and was shown again throwing something into the dumpster), he was wearing a blue shirt, apparently the same one he's wearing in that body cam video late that eve..
Yes, agree, clothing of all should be of interest for various reasons.

There is a video showing him at the dumpster? Pretty sure I haven't seen that. I don't even know where to start any longer. I was finishing the initial ones I started but then also more came out and/or they started comparing facts in various interviews, inconsistencies and more and I've started some of those. And supposedly a lot more is coming and may throughout the month of September.

Did they release the one of him putting her in the trunk or her being in the front seat slumped over? Not sure I want to see such but wondering. So they did with the dumpster? At both times or only later?

I never noticed the clothing change but haven't seen the video so...
 
Lol, no. I'd have said the same. It's their job to fish, or to probe. And he was on duty after all... He's just playing more the good cop. I love the Myra lady detective. Man she's good at her job. BUT he did get JS talking...
Is it because I said I saw tunnel vision re questioning of that student and also took issue re questioning of a teacher that you praise detectives and their investigative work?
If you think I meant to criticize that detective, I didn't, but I'm not impressed with him that "he got JS talking" because I'm not aware of any instance in which she didn't speak candidly and openly, which I think is to her credit, not his.
 
There is a video showing him at the dumpster? Pretty sure I haven't seen that.

Did they release the one of him putting her in the trunk or her being in the front seat slumped over? Not sure I want to see such but wondering. So they did with the dumpster? At both times or only later?

I never noticed the clothing change but haven't seen the video so...
I haven't seen any video of him at the dumpster or anywhere else but btw (from Kissimmee investigative reports) I counted at least four trips he made to the dumpster!
 
Is it because I said I saw tunnel vision re questioning of that student and also took issue re questioning of a teacher that you praise detectives and their investigative work?
If you think I meant to criticize that detective, I didn't, but I'm not impressed with him that "he got JS talking" because I'm not aware of any instance in which she didn't speak candidly and openly, which I think is to her credit, not his.
No, I am praising detectives from what I have watched them do in many interviews. And if I didn't already see it, LE shows, like the retired ones, advising of exactly WHAT they are doing, like we cant' see it right? Basic good cop, bad cop surely but beyond that as more info and answers are given and things start to conflict. Have you SEEN the one with Myra (forget last name) being really short with Stephan in what may be the last interview and the detective that you aren't impressed with coming in just once or twice in my opinion intentionally?

I think you're very much in the minority with your opinion of Jenn. I am not sold that she helped DO IT but I am about knowledge, suspicion, covering.

This morning I saw one the Behavior Panel did some time back and started watching it, haven't finished by a long shot. I know you won't watch them but if I recall, you do watch Dr. G don't you? Do I have that right? Has he done one I have not checked yet.

They are only confirming with more knowledge than most of us who can see it so far beyond what most think.

She's only open about some things, when she is not lying she goes wide open... The rest of the time not at all. She is schmoozing him.

And no I don't know if you meant to criticize or anything, I have no idea, it is just your opinion. And I'm not complimenting him necessarily either but this bunch nailed this guy pretty darned quickly. And have tons from JS that does NOT match up. If you don't see his part then they are doing their roles VERY WELL IMO, even to the point some in the public did not see it.

Her sh*t in that car ride about knowing how it sounds to send your kid to a BED with a male but how she knew it okay, etc. and how weird it sounds, oh boy. The woman has been watching and reading sh*t and probably hearing from family and is trying to address such things and explain them.

The ONLY time she has ever talked nicely about her daughter or ever used her name once is AFTER she I am sure was hearing all the stuff said. Now it's fakey flakey her beautiful singing voice, etc.

And it's FAKE.

Emphasis not at you. I would HOPE you know that by now. I mean we disagree but still agree and discuss.

If Jenn is clueless and has been since Maddie was in single digits, well then she's been "baked" the entire time and cared less. And that's severe negligence at minimum.

I think I have said before this one really gets to me and you are welcome to your opinions but you really see nothing in anything and dismiss a lot very easily. IMHO.

Hey there are a lot of cases I can and do come down on LE and investigators. Not here. Kohberger would be another Outstanding jobs. Delphi? Now that's a different story...

From Jenn's first we and I took her to school and now so much beyond....

She as they said was more worried about protecting him than about where her daughter was.

And we've both heard and seen different things imo although both have seen some of the same.

She's at minimum seriously negligent, failed to protect and SENT HER TO BED with HER BF. JENN'S. TO A SINGLE BED.

And I don't know how you can miss all the inconistencies, changes in time line and stories, etc. because that's what is being talked of. And I don't need to trust or believe others saying it, I've already seen in myself in watching all that's been released...

LOL. I don't think I used an exclamation mark, that's more you but we both do use vehemence at times lol.

And we do agree on some things and still respond to each other and so I'd trust you at least no that much, I just don't agree with a lot of your take.

I don't even need any show either to show me what I have already picked up on, but they do confirm that others have seen the very same things.

I care what happened to her daughter. More than I do about JS or SS for certain. It is horrible with at minimum so many failures by mom and I with all due respect do not know how anyone can't at least see that. Blinded, baked, selfish. At minimum. She said it herself. She was selfish. If you go by her candidness...
 

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